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[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Even the Black, Asian and Hispanic ones? Did you happen to look at the demographic voter breakdowns? You do realize there were people who voted for both Trump and AOC. There were Obama voters who voted for Trump.

Are you that myopic, simplistic and obtuse?

You are muddying the waters and trying to move goal posts.
Many people voted for Trump.
Including Elon Musk who support H1B.
We are not talking about Trump voters.
I did not ever characterize Trump voters or even say "Trump voters..." in my posts.
I keep saying MAGA cult and you keep trying to muddy the waters with a "Not all Trump voters..." BS.
The MAGA anti-immigration cult is who we are talking about.
For them their anti-immigration (legal or illegal) attitudes are driven solely by racism.
They dont know much else about the immigration issue.

 

[Butler1000]

You are muddying the waters and trying to move goal posts.
Many people voted for Trump.
Including Elon Musk who support H1B.
We are not talking about Trump voters.
I did not ever characterize Trump voters or even say "Trump voters..." in my posts.
I keep saying MAGA cult and you keep trying to muddy the waters with a "Not all Trump voters..." BS.
The MAGA anti-immigration cult is who we are talking about.
For them their anti-immigration (legal or illegal) attitudes are driven solely by racism.
They dont know much else about the immigration issue.

Then why are you so concerned for tiny vocal minority of Trumpy Trolls yelling on Twitter? Seriously I boggles my mind how you think these things really matter. It's fish wife gossip over the fence level shit. In many cases click bait artists looking for cred. So what if they latch on to something that in minds of the greater public is a concern for different reasons.

Your attention gives them what they want.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Then why are you so concerned for tiny vocal minority of Trumpy Trolls yelling on Twitter?

They are not a tiny minority lol.
Go to the heartlands of Trump country and tell me they are a "tiny minority" lmao.

 

[Butler1000]

They are not a tiny minority lol.
Go to the heartlands of Trump country and tell me they are a "tiny minority" lmao.

They are. Make up your mind. First you are saying you are not including most voters, just the "MAGA cult", then you say they are the majority in the Trump heartlands. Go look at a map. Trump improved in almost every county in the nation. I think he increased his vote share in every state.

This election was about economy, immigration, wars, and sticking it to elite circles. And it was about trust. After the Joe Biden revelations of his cognitive decline were fully out there people realized that this administration had lied for possibly years about who was running the nation. And more specifically Kamala Harris was. The primary Job of the VP is to be the backstop in just such a situation and remove an incompetent president from the office. It's her constitutional duty. She failed that duty. The machinations were clearly on display that the Democrats have not run a clean and open primary in three elections.

Trump attracted voters from every racial demographic, because the majority voted based not on race, but economic class lines. It's in the numbers. But you go ahead and keep telling yourself the same lies the Democrats are. And populists will keep on winning.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

They are. Make up your mind. First you are saying you are not including most voters, just the "MAGA cult"...

I said I did not include all Trump voters.
I did not say the MAGA cult was a tiny minority.
I dont know the number but I'd say it is a pretty significant one.

 

[Butler1000]

I said I did not include all Trump voters.
I did not say the MAGA cult was a tiny minority.
I dont know the number but I'd say it is a pretty significant one.

Tell you what, when you can actually get a number, feel free to post it with some sort of proof. Btw the best place to start is about 30%. It's the same number of voters who always vote Blue no matter who. The other 40% are independents. After that start at racial demographics. And, no, you don't get to assume all white people who voted for Trump are racist. Then remove a good portion of the richer ones because they voted for the tax cuts. Then look at military background because they voted anti war. As did a crapload of Muslims, and other demographics.

That's just the start and doesn't include the poor ones about inflation.

Suddenly the numbers dwindles.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Btw the best place to start is about 30%.

30% is pretty significant.
That is 25M voters.

 

[Butler1000]

30% is pretty significant.
That is 25M voters.

I said start. Then start minusing based on what I said. Even then. 25 million is slightly less than 10% of the adult population. Bet you get down to 5% or less as race as a primary motivation for voting very quickly.

That is a minority. Then go to the overt ones and it drops again. As I said. Vocal and stupid minority.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

I said start. Then start minusing based on what I said. Even then. 25 million is slightly less than 10% of the adult population. Bet you get down to 5% or less as race as a primary motivation for voting very quickly.

That is a minority. Then go to the overt ones and it drops again. As I said. Vocal and stupid minority.

I would assume a good 30% to 40% as the cult.
The rest would fall into the other 70%.

 

[The Oracle]

I would assume a good 30% to 40% as the cult.
The rest would fall into the other 70%.

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[Butler1000]

I would assume a good 30% to 40% as the cult.
The rest would fall into the other 70%.

Then I would suggest the Democratic Party has its work cut out for it. To have that many people dead set against them after 12 years of power means they have disaffected a whole swath of the populace.

Moreso though it was also a take over of the GOP from their Elites as well. Sounds to me like a class war issue as much as anything.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Then I would suggest the Democratic Party has its work cut out for it.

I agree that they need a better candidate.
And not 12 years. Just 4. Why did the Republicans lose in 2020?
All of this does not take away from the point that I am making about MAGA cult's motivations for being anti-immigration, wanting mass deportations etc.,

 

[lomotil]

The MAGAS are aggrieved and need someone to hate, even if it is their supporters.
Soon their circular firing squad will turn on themselves. Look at Musk, already in charge as the major influencer in the court of the demented orange king and what is happening to the MAGA cabal.

 

[Butler1000]

I agree that they need a better candidate.
And not 12 years. Just 4. Why did the Republicans lose in 2020?
All of this does not take away from the point that I am making about MAGA cult's motivations for being anti-immigration, wanting mass deportations etc.,

Since Obama 12. That is when their own Cult of Personality began and also their decline.

 

[richaceg]

You are muddying the waters and trying to move goal posts.
Many people voted for Trump.
Including Elon Musk who support H1B.
We are not talking about Trump voters.
I did not ever characterize Trump voters or even say "Trump voters..." in my posts.
I keep saying MAGA cult and you keep trying to muddy the waters with a "Not all Trump voters..." BS.
The MAGA anti-immigration cult is who we are talking about.
For them their anti-immigration (legal or illegal) attitudes are driven solely by racism.
They dont know much else about the immigration issue.

Oh please...anybody who crosses the border illegally would do petty crimes if they can get away with it...there are people who cross the border legally...those are the ones who have no desire to break the law. there maybe non-violent criminals but they still would do it illegally because it's easier and faster and the current administration doesn't seem to care...liberals always pull the "race card" when the argument doesn't go their way.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Oh please...anybody who crosses the border illegally would do petty crimes if they can get away with it...there are people who cross the border legally...those are the ones who have no desire to break the law. there maybe non-violent criminals but they still would do it illegally because it's easier and faster and the current administration doesn't seem to care...liberals always pull the "race card" when the argument doesn't go their way.

This is not true.
But I am not going to digress into discussing about illegal immigration.
This discussion is about H1B visas.
The MAGA cult knows nothing about the immigration issue.
Its about race for them. I provided some examples above.

 

[lomotil]

This is not true.
But I am not going to digress into discussing about illegal immigration.
This discussion is about H1B visas.
The MAGA cult knows nothing about the immigration issue.
Its about race for them. I provided some examples above.

Trump employed staff with H1B visas and illegals at Mar-a-lago before his presidency .
Why waste your time arguing with MAGA cult members that have been mesmerized !

 

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BOMBSHELL LEAK: Trump is TRIGGERED as Elon PUBLICLY DOMINATES MAGA!

 

[lomotil]

BOMBSHELL LEAK: Trump is TRIGGERED as Elon PUBLICLY DOMINATES MAGA!

Trump is a fucking demented geriatric meathead and Musk has got his number.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]