Mr. Trudeau Not doing So Well In Latest Poll
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more damage control. They see the writing on the wall, and fear losing their seats/power. See also McGuinty, maybe Mulroney. Just sound bytes in the public domain.
The Liberal MPs have learned that if they cry loud enough about their leaders and whine about potentially losing their seats, they get things like cancelled gas plants and carbon tax exemptions for their constituents.
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I’ll go further and suggest a large segment of the population is like Frank. Disadvantaged and not remotely politically aware. Somehow think a change in leadership changes a parties stripes, or culture.
If a world renowned very left wing economist ripping them new ones and raises a nuclear red flag. That’s goes
/whoosh
See also
Mel Lastman, Bill Blair, Barbara Hall, miller and Tory, Rob Ford, JT, Dalton McGoofy, Wynne, Bob Rae,
I have no problems admitting I voted for Chrétien and Harper. They atleast had functioning brains and were ok.
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Yes, my views are more representative of the population than yours.
1) obviously you’re so politically unaware and disadvantaged you can’t grasp current polls and how bad they are, and the major issues. Ding a ling, we have a real winner here.
2) If, just if, and that’s a huge IF given #1. Your right. Well you just proved my point.
That a large chuck of the voting public are disadvantaged and political flat earthers like you, that don’t have a clue about reality.
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That isn't something to be proud of. The population are ignorant and self centered.
Of course you don't know this because well. <Looks above>
Political flat earthers?
Explain provide evidence to back up this claim.
Thanks.Found this anyway, not worth spending more time looking for.
'Bad news across the board for Trudeau’: Conservatives would win 217 seats if an election held today, according to new Innovative Research poll
In the leadership attributes, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is trailing Pierre Poilievre by a double-digit margin, says Innovative Research president Greg Lyle.www.hilltimes.com
Different group, but very similar results from around the same time.
Makes it seem that at worst case, the 222 in the meme picture is outer edge of the MOE of a real poll and not just random bullshit.
No problem.
And I think we both know, gauging public sentiment and popular votes is a far cry different than predicting the end results.
Assuming no major changes here. Which given the available information today is only far more likely to get worse than better. There aren’t enough seats in the GTA to be bought to save their sorry asses this time.
The middle is Fing sick of them and taking it on the chin. People also need to think about apathy and voter turnout. And what upticks in turn out mean.
As far as you guys go. While I feel for you. I have more faith in your “middle”, than ours. “Fear and greed”
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Seat count depends primarily on distribution of votes.
FPTP with single member districts is a pretty terrible system.
You look at a group doing poll aggregation like 338 Canada and you get the wide range error bars of 164-220 right now.
So this looks like people cherry picking the outer edge, which makes sense for a partisan spin.
Not convinced it will get worse. Very hard to predict over a year or so and the last time anyone broke 200 was 40 years ago or so, right?
But we are at the 10 year "we're sick of this group, flip to the other side" range we've been working with for a couple of generations, so I would be genuinely shocked if the Liberals hung on to power.
I have more faith in the Canadian middle than the American one, personally.
Voter turnout here has been 58-68% of eligible voters over the last quarter century while in the US it's been 55-60% (With spikes over that in 2008 and 2020.)
I think more turnout tends to mean more of the middle showing up.
Trudeau and Singh's teams quietly planning electoral reform legislation
As progress on some measures in the Liberal-NDP confidence-and-supply agreement continue to play out publicly, the two parties have quietly been in talks to table electoral reform legislation before the next federal vote.
Trudeau and Singh's teams quietly planning electoral reform legislation
As progress on some measures in the Liberal-NDP confidence-and-supply agreement continue to play out publicly, the two parties have quietly been in talks to table electoral reform legislation before the next federal vote.www.ctvnews.ca
From the article:
Specifically, the Liberals and New Democrats agreed to explore:
- Allowing an "expanded" three-day voting period during general elections;
- Allowing voters to cast their ballots at any polling place within their riding; and
- Improving the mail-in ballot process with both accessibility and maintaining integrity in mind.
Someone most of told Trudeau that FPTP would likely mean eternal minority governments.
It means fragmenting of the political party system and unavoidable coalition governments after every election. Like Italy.
It's even worse than FPTP, which is why the Libs are not interested. The Tories will whine about anything the Libs don't do and the NDP and BQ and Greens would DIE to have proportionate representation for obvious reasons.
