Mr. Trudeau Not doing So Well In Latest Poll

[Butler1000]

From the article:

Specifically, the Liberals and New Democrats agreed to explore:

• Allowing an "expanded" three-day voting period during general elections;
• Allowing voters to cast their ballots at any polling place within their riding; and
• Improving the mail-in ballot process with both accessibility and maintaining integrity in mind.

Those all seem reasonable and good, but unfortunately don't address the much larger problem of the FPTP single member districts.

I have a problem with the tracking on multiple polling places. Its all manual right now. And hoing electronic would assuredly be problematic. Mail in, multiple days are fine.

And Trudeau wants Ranked ballot. The people want proportional rep. That's why he didn't change it.

 

[Valcazar]

Someone most of told Trudeau that FPTP would likely mean eternal minority governments.

Just the opposite.
FPTP tends to produce majority, non-coalition governments.
That's one of the arguments people use in its favour.

 

[Valcazar]

I have a problem with the tracking on multiple polling places. Its all manual right now. And hoing electronic would assuredly be problematic. Mail in, multiple days are fine.

I don't think the multiple polling places causes a significantly increased risk of tracking who voted, but I'd be ok with making that the lower priority.

And Trudeau wants Ranked ballot. The people want proportional rep. That's why he didn't change it.

Trudeau wants Single Transferable Vote. (I know people just say "ranked ballot" but there are multiple different ranked ballot systems.)
Has proportional representation ever gotten majority support in any Canadian polling?
Even as a general concept (let's leave out the many different ways it could be approached and how that might split votes).

 

[Skoob]

Trudeau has conveniently dodged electoral reform as a campaign promise for years...only now, when he's about to have his house of shit go up in flames is he considering tinkering.

You can bet he'll push whatever his masters tell him would be best for him and not because it's the best for the country.

 

[Butler1000]

I don't think the multiple polling places causes a significantly increased risk of tracking who voted, but I'd be ok with making that the lower priority.



Trudeau wants Single Transferable Vote. (I know people just say "ranked ballot" but there are multiple different ranked ballot systems.)
Has proportional representation ever gotten majority support in any Canadian polling?
Even as a general concept (let's leave out the many different ways it could be approached and how that might split votes).

Yes, the commission he put together that was the recommendation after piblic consultation. But they didn't offer an exact model so that was the excuse to scrap the whole thing.

 

[squeezer]

Trudeau has conveniently dodged electoral reform as a campaign promise for years...only now, when he's about to have his house of shit go up in flames is he considering tinkering.

You can bet he'll push whatever his masters tell him would be best for him and not because it's the best for the country.

Are we getting ready to complain the election was rigged if Pee Pee can't piss all over this country as the new PM?

 

[Butler1000]

Are we getting ready to complain the election was rigged if Pee Pee can't piss all over this country as the new PM?

The system is the system. Last election Cons received more votes but lost. Same can be said for Hillary in 2016. Did you think that result was fair?

 

[squeezer]

The system is the system. Last election Cons received more votes but lost. Same can be said for Hillary in 2016. Did you think that result was fair?

It's the same for all parties so yes, it's fair. Trump beat Hillary and the Cons lost, boo hoo and I hope they lose again.

 

[Skoob]

Are we getting ready to complain the election was rigged if Pee Pee can't piss all over this country as the new PM?

I'm confident Trudeau changing any part of the electoral process won't save him.
Question is are you ready for PP to fix the Liberal mess and fix this country after a decade of destruction?...Or are you well-lubed enough to keep getting your rights violated should they stay in power?

 

[Skoob]

It's the same for all parties so yes, it's fair. Trump beat Hillary and the Cons lost, boo hoo and I hope they lose again.

So why would the Liberals decide to change it now?
I mean, it's fair right?

 

[nottyboi]

Just the opposite.
FPTP tends to produce majority, non-coalition governments.
That's one of the arguments people use in its favour.

that was before, things have changed as the country has polarized. BQ emerged etc. I like minority govts. They work just fine.

 

[squeezer]

So why would the Liberals decide to change it now?
I mean, it's fair right?

Reading is your friend. Read this over and over and then share your thoughts. I will have the Laugher Emolji ready so be warned.

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[Valcazar]

Yes, the commission he put together that was the recommendation after piblic consultation. But they didn't offer an exact model so that was the excuse to scrap the whole thing.

I remember they recommended PR, and the people who showed up for public consultation were overwhelmingly for it, but I'm not sure it has ever solidly won high ratings in any kind of national poll.
I really can't remember.

And yes, Trudeau wanted alternative vote with single-member districts and everyone on the commission knew that was basically a guarantee of permanent Liberal power and shot it down so he just dropped it.

 

[Valcazar]

that was before, things have changed as the country has polarized. BQ emerged etc. I like minority govts. They work just fine.

If you like minority governments, you would want to support Proportional Representation - that's almost a guaranteed minority.
But yes, with enough regional fragmentation, FPTP will tend to minority governments.
Without the BQ, though, I doubt we would have seen the run we've have of late.

 

[Skoob]

Reading is your friend. Read this over and over and then share your thoughts. I will have the Laugher Emolji ready so be warned.

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So Liberals won't support it...but let's go back to 2015 and another Trudeau flip-flip...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ju...-the-post-voting-in-platform-speech-1.3114902

 

[Phatazluvr123]

I’m surprised someone hasn’t taken a shot at him yet

 

[squeezer]

So Liberals won't support it...but let's go back to 2015 and another Trudeau flip-flip...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ju...-the-post-voting-in-platform-speech-1.3114902

Ah, so you still want to push Justin is trying to change election rules eh??

Who is pushing for it, name the person, go ahead.

I hope over the next year PEE PEE steps in it more and more and gets creamed in the next election. I will admit it doesn't look good for Justin at the moment but if some common sense prevails among the electorate I will be looking to see if Skoob still exists after election day.

 

[Skoob]

Ah, so you still want to push Justin is trying to change election rules eh??

Who is pushing for it, name the person, go ahead.

I hope over the next year PEE PEE steps in it more and more and gets creamed in the next election. I will admit it doesn't look good for Justin at the moment but if some common sense prevails among the electorate I will be looking to see if Skoob still exists after election day.

Who do you think is pushing for it?
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/tru...anning-electoral-reform-legislation-1.6744379

btw if common sense prevailed he wouldn't have been elected twice! There is still hope for your dreams of further destruction for Canada with strengthening his record for most ethics violations in history!

 

[squeezer]

Who do you think is pushing for it?
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/tru...anning-electoral-reform-legislation-1.6744379

btw if common sense prevailed he wouldn't have been elected twice! There is still hope for your dreams of further destruction for Canada with strengthening his record for most ethics violations in history!

I don't see Justin's name there pushing it, do you? If they do and it keeps the piss stain out, I'd be all for it! Think of it like when you miss and dribble all over the toilet seat, hopefully, you clean it with a wipe. Pee Pee should always be wiped and cleansed before he ruins Canada.

 

[Skoob]

I don't see Justin's name there pushing it, do you? If they do and it keeps the piss stain out, I'd be all for it! Think of it like when you miss and dribble all over the toilet seat, hopefully, you clean it with a wipe. Pee Pee should always be wiped and cleansed before he ruins Canada.

Just his party...does that count? Or is he no longer associated with it?

btw which school do you attend for your tap dancing lessons? You should get your money back.