Mr. Trudeau Not doing So Well In Latest Poll

[DinkleMouse]

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It was published at 1:09pm but it's possible it only said there was an incident and was updated later to add that the government was operating under the assumption that it was terror related. I guess because the poster circled the published time people were blind to to line right above it showing it was updated. Seems people only read headlines and things circled in red.

 

[pavel bure]

CTV has disputed Poilievre's allegation when blaming them for the CTV report that was published around 15 minutes after his statement in the House of Commons.

"Mr. Speaker, we just heard media reports about a terrorist attack at the border in Niagara. Two people may have been killed and a third injured. Can the prime minister give us any information about this terrorist attack?" Poilievre asked first in French, in a question that began at 2:23 p.m. ET, according to ParlVu.

The prime minister responded, indicating that at that time the situation was "very serious," and work continued, referencing what then were four border closures. Poilievre then asked about the situation again in English, at 2:25 p.m. ET, according to ParlVu, once again using the phrase "media reports of a terrorist attack."

In his response, Trudeau noted that "there are a lot of questions" and that Canadian security agencies were following up with U.S. officials "to try to rapidly get as many answers as possible." Trudeau also informed the House of Commons that "additional measures" were at that time, "being contemplated and activated" at all border crossings across the country. Vowing updates, Trudeau then excused himself to go receive further information.

On Thursday, Poilievre was asked during a press conference in Toronto whether he thought it was responsible to call the explosion terrorism when no U.S. or Canadian official had said that it was.

In response, Poilievre pointed to reporting by CTV News.

"CTV reported that the Government of Canada was presuming that the incident was terrorist… And that's what I said in my remarks… I said there are media reports," Poilievre said.

A back-and-forth transpired between The Canadian Press reporter and Poilievre, about the Conservative leader describing the situation as a terrorist attack, or terrorism.

"I didn't. I said there were media reports…. What I said, and I was right, was that there were media reports of a terror-related event," Poilievre said.

CTV News reported, citing national security sources, that government officials were operating under the assumption that the incident at the Rainbow Bridge in Niagara Falls, was terror-related.

This breaking information was first reported on CTV News approximately 15 minutes after Poilievre rose in the House to ask Trudeau about "media reports about a terrorist attack."

National security sources also told CTV News that while it had not been ruled out that the explosion was the result of other means, in operating under the terror assumption, officials had conveyed to police forces they should increase their presence at likely terror targets as they worked to establish the incident was isolated.

Feds say 'no evidence of terrorism,' in bridge blast, criticize Poilievre for 'terrorist attack' remark

The federal government confirmed Thursday there is 'no evidence of terrorism at this time,' in regards to the Rainbow Bridge vehicle explosion on Wednesday, and are now accusing Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre for jumping to conclusions in raising the spectre of a 'terrorist attack,' early on.

www.ctvnews.ca

I think that Poilievre confused CTV with Fox News who reported it earlier as a Terror Attack.

 

[bver_hunter]

1) “when the economy picks up”. Are you seer now too? You can see the future? Despite oh so much global uncertainty, ( Russia/Ukraine, Israel, China and more). despite Boomers starting to retire. Despite many Canadians, that live in a consumer economy living paycheck to paycheck, who also can’t find two nickels for their golden years? Despite high interest rates ( let’s ignore inflation) and consumer debt levels. Despite more…..like a GTA housing bubble that some say is set to burst and the worst in the world…..let’s just stick with these…

Sunny days last forever right?..
Well there’s also, despite all the above something called a natural, cyclical business cycle….you’re not aware of…I suppose you know better than 80-90% of economist that are calling for a recession anytime soon..The only thing they don’t seem to agree on, is how deep or how long. And maybe you’ve never heard the expression “When the US sneezes we catch colds”….

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/will-there-be-a-recession-in-2024-heres-what-economists-predict#

Have you scrutinized the link that you posted? Where does it state that there are 80-90% of economists that are calling for a recession?
While around 65% of economists predicted a recession for 2023, all of them were proven to be WRONG!! Now it is a mixed bag for 2024 as inflation in both the USA and Canada had a stark drop to 3.2% in the USA and 3.1% in Canada. If there is a recession then it is expected to be short-lived. Remember that the elections do not have to occur until 2025 in Canada.

2) Pierre’s reaction. Welcome to politics, or do you not understand how that works? That both sides say incredibly stupid things trying to score some points.

I will say, most of his brainfarts are highly unlikely to have any impact on the peons lives at all. Unlike “the budget will balance itself, I don’t pay attention to monetary policy”

Pee Pee did make a howler with this "Terrorist" statement of his, especially as CTV have now proven him to be wrong that they published it before he announced it in the Parliament.
He probably used Fox Fake News, and the second howler of his was regarding the "Carbon Tax" on the Free Trade with Ukraine. Turns out that there was nothing of that sort!!

 

[bver_hunter]

A compromise on democracy? Plus other letters, Nov. 24: ‘Pierre Poilievre is starting to show his true colours’

Re “Pierre Poilievre playing to base on Canada-Ukraine free-trade agreement is a compromise on democracy” (Nov. 23): If I ever had any doubt, Pierre Poilievre is starting to show his true colours more clearly in recent weeks.

His default setting seems to be negativity. Rather than be seen to vote with Liberals and socialists, he opposes a Ukraine free-trade agreement. He complains that the Liberals are doing nothing to help the housing crisis, and then complains that they are spending too much when they actually do. The name Justin Trudeau appears in nearly every sentence.

He seems to be a man obsessed and willing to do whatever necessary to gain power. That’s a scary prospect, and eerily reminiscent of a recent U.S. president.

Costs and benefits
Re “Faced with an economic downturn, the Liberals’ fiscal framework could easily derail” (Editorial, Nov. 22): For decades, I have witnessed the cacophony and hand-wringing that surrounds government deficits and accumulating debt. Balancing budgets and overspending have become an obsession with politicians, particularly from the right of the political spectrum.

I have never observed what I consider to be negative effects of large government expenditures. Indeed, quite the opposite. Medicare comes to mind and more recently the Canada Emergency Response Benefit. Now, there is the pending massive investment in housing. More is coming.

Yet we continue to hear the usual criticisms. Even if there is a little bit of truth in some of them, I believe they pale against the benefits of large outlays of spending.

The proof lies in the significant benefits to most citizens as a result of huge government investments and, yes, producing debt which, for at least as long as Canada has been a country, has been manageable.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Keeps getting worse for Trudy

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1729284035388551259

 

[The Oracle]

From Global News no less....That's a really low rating in his own party.

His ego won't let me him step down though. No surprise there I reckon, lol.

 

[DesRicardo]

From Global News no less....That's a really low rating in his own party.

His ego won't let me him step down though. No surprise there I reckon, lol.

Good. I don't want him to step down. I need to see that ass whipping in the elections on TV.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Trudeau blinked and caved into google's demands

 

[nottyboi]

Making projections for an election 18m from now? PP has plenty of time to implode. Rates will be down, inflation down more EVs,

 

[JohnLarue]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1731729772483600538

the never ending clown show that is our federal liberal government

 

[JohnLarue]

(20) Lorrie Goldstein on X: "Veteran Newfoundland and Labrador Liberal MP Ken McDonald (Avalon riding) says he’s rebuffed Conservatives’ overtures three times, but won’t rule out crossing the floor or sitting as an Independent. https://t.co/CtxnkDx5Kq" / X (twitter.com)

Is this the start of the mad scramble to get off of the sinking SS Trudeau ?
158 liberal MPs, a leaky lifeboat and only 10 life jackets
Meanwhile the minister of navigation Christa Freeland is reading the manual that came with the sextant. she does not want to hit the rocks again
And the captain Justin is unsure which navel costume is best for his scheduled photo shoot on the forecastle,
He will order the ship into the wind (with the rocks just behind him) so his hair and the plume on his hat flow just right.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

 

[Valcazar]

You should really link to the actual poll so people can double check the results.
If you go to the Angus Reid site, there isn't obviously a poll showing these results.

 

[The Oracle]

You should really link to the actual poll so people can double check the results.
If you go to the Angus Reid site, there isn't obviously a poll showing these results.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1750186699773112790

His own party sees the writing on the wall..

 

[Valcazar]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1750186699773112790

His own party sees the writing on the wall..

His polling is terrible, I agree.
But Phil posted a specific poll with specific numbers and I would like to see that poll.

 

[Not getting younger]

You should really link to the actual poll so people can double check the results.
If you go to the Angus Reid site, there isn't obviously a poll showing these results.

That said Valcazar, I do seem to recall that poll and prediction. If I recall correctly it was early November. I’ll see if I can find it

 

[Not getting younger]

Found this anyway, not worth spending more time looking for.

'Bad news across the board for Trudeau’: Conservatives would win 217 seats if an election held today, according to new Innovative Research poll

In the leadership attributes, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is trailing Pierre Poilievre by a double-digit margin, says Innovative Research president Greg Lyle.

www.hilltimes.com

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1750234108477997160

 

[Not getting younger]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1750234108477997160

more damage control. They see the writing on the wall, and fear losing their seats/power. See also McGuinty, maybe Mulroney. Just sound bytes in the public domain.

 

[Skoob]

more damage control. They see the writing on the wall, and fear losing their seats/power. See also McGuinty, maybe Mulroney. Just sound bytes in the public domain.

The Liberal MPs have learned that if they cry loud enough about their leaders and whine about potentially losing their seats, they get things like cancelled gas plants and carbon tax exemptions for their constituents.