MPOX is back!

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speakercontrols

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As a straight guy, who see sex providers only, it's a great relief to know that there are responsible sex workers who realize that getting the Mpox vaccine is the right thing to do, both for themselves and their clients. :love:
so…as a responsible client, did you get the vaccine?
 

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so…as a responsible client, did you get the vaccine?
I have to say that I'm not prepared to say I'm gay in order to get the vaccine. I don't want that on my government "permanent record". Who can predict where that will lead some time down the line...

If it becomes an epidemic in Toronto, and if the current vaccine is upgraded to ward off the new variant, and if it becomes available to straight guys who see sex providers, I will definitely change my mind.
 
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Another question: is the current "Imvamune" vaccine effective against the new variation of Mpox named "clade 1b"?

Clade 1b is a fairly recent variation, much more transmissible and dangerous than previous variants, and as far as I could see not fully protected against by the currently available "Imvamune" Version 4.0 vaccine, which is basically a smallpox vaccine, and has been available since last February.

From what I read on the Service Ontario site straight guys are not eligible to receive the vaccine, even if they say they are seeing sex workers. Having male to male sex, or actually being a sex worker yourself, would seem to be part of the primary prerequisites to qualify for the vaccination.
Why not say “I’ve looked at the criteria for vaccine eligibility, and I believe I meet them”. I don’t think they will as for details / proof that you have sex with men.
 

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I have to say that I'm not prepared to say I'm gay in order to get the vaccine. I don't want that on my government "permanent record". Who can predict where that will lead some time down the line...

If it becomes an epidemic in Toronto, and if the current vaccine is upgraded to ward off the new variant, and if it becomes available to straight guys who see sex providers, I will definitely change my mind.
Vaccine does not require ID or health card. You will not be stamped with “GAY” on your “government permanent record”, whatever that is.
 
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I had to look it up Mpox which is actually monkey pox, we don't want to offend the monkeys. Now they're calling for 2 vaccines, sure..wait.

They say its not a gay disease, but doctor Bogosh said it could've increased because of pride.
Dr. Bogosh also said sex workers are high risk which extends to their clients.
 
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I have to say that I'm not prepared to say I'm gay in order to get the vaccine. I don't want that on my government "permanent record". Who can predict where that will lead some time down the line...
Worrying about being gay (or some other identity) just because you take a vaccination to protect yourself and others is the least manly thing I can think of.

mind you I do get the downsides to government records. You never know what shit “well meaning, helpful, kind, and inclusive “ people will do in the future. For the good of society at large of course.
 
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Vaccine does not require ID or health card. You will not be stamped with “GAY” on your “government permanent record”, whatever that is.
Whenever I got my flu shots and Covid vaxes they always asked for my health card, even at Shoppers, never mind the Covid vaccination clinics.

I doubt Service Ontario will give any vaccination without your OHIP card being presented.

I'll stay on the fence until Mpox really becomes a "thing" in Ontario, and until they upgrade the current vaccine to ward off the new variant.
 

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Vaccine does not require ID or health card. You will not be stamped with “GAY” on your “government permanent record”, whatever that is.
Came here to say this. It's a paper you bring home. Since sex workers are often in precary situation they don't ask for anything.

Edit: I am personally not really worried. I think a surge in cases are normal after gay pride. We are still talking about 33 cases on 5M people. Let's not go crazy just yet. They did the same thing last time and nothing happened.
 
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massman

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Whenever I got my flu shots and Covid vaxes they always asked for my health card, even at Shoppers, never mind the Covid vaccination clinics.

I doubt Service Ontario will give any vaccination without your OHIP card being presented.

I'll stay on the fence until Mpox really becomes a "thing" in Ontario, and until they upgrade the current vaccine to ward off the new variant.
From TPH website.
 

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I have to say that I'm not prepared to say I'm gay in order to get the vaccine. I don't want that on my government "permanent record". Who can predict where that will lead some time down the line...

If it becomes an epidemic in Toronto, and if the current vaccine is upgraded to ward off the new variant, and if it becomes available to straight guys who see sex providers, I will definitely change my mind.
I wonder if our illustrious leader in Ottawa has considered banning immediately all arrivals from Africa,... that`s probably racist. I understand it`s already here but why chance throwing more buckets of gas on the fire. Maybe he`d like to add to the colossal ruin of our country before he gets the hook next year following the impressive recovery from covid and all.....suuure.
 

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Agree!!

It would logically follow (though not specified in mpox vaccine eligibility) that guys who have multiple sex partners who are SW should also get it. The mode of transmission (close skin contact) is not unique to only men who have sex with men. Like it or not, we are all horny bastards here and there is an overlap between this community men who have sex with men, even if you don’t.
What matters here is whether or not you have been vaccinated for smallpox, which confers a level of immunity to any pox related virus. The older you are, the more likely you were vaxxed as a kid, or in my case in the military as well. The younger are more vulnerable this time around, which is a change...
 
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What matters here is whether or not you have been vaccinated for smallpox, which confers a level of immunity to any pox related virus. The older you are, the more likely you were vaxxed as a kid, or in my case in the military as well. The younger are more vulnerable this time around, which is a change...
Anyone younger than 45 probably did not receive the smallpox vaccine, as it stopped being a routine vaccination around that time. I don't have the "mark of protection" and neither does my Brother, and we were both born in the 80's.
 
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Hey, the N95 mask won't work!!!! The mask won't work!!!! Just thought I would let you know just incase you were rushing to your garage to grab your mask stash.
Trump survived covid, assassination attempt... will he survive the Mpox?
 
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