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"Ottawa rejects B.C. study showing its new policy will harm sex workers

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Ott...365/story.html

Report backs international research saying laws targeting 'johns' hurt sex trade workers

OTTAWA — The Harper government reacted defiantly Tuesday to a B.C. study which said its plan to bring in a law targeting buyers of sexual services rather than prostitutes will just end up victimizing sex workers in contravention of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms."

I guess that removes any doubts we may have had about the 'Nordic Model' for Canada being implemented.
 

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On December 20, 2013 the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that the laws regulating prostitution were unconstitutional and gave the Federal Conservatives one year to consider whether to design new laws that comply with the Charter of Rights of Freedoms.

Today Justice Minister Peter MacKay tabled the Conservative Government's long anticipated new prostitution legislation. The Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act criminalizing the purchase of sex, communicating for the purpose of selling sex, living off the avails of prostitution, and the advertising sexual services.

This cynical, dystopic model does not resolve the problems found by the Court in Bedford to be unconstitutional, and adds new ones such as the prohibition on advertising. The Charter rights engaged by this draft law include life, liberty, security of the person, freedom of expression and equality. Arguably all are breached.

This is not the “Nordic” approach, nor is it a Canadian variation on the “Nordic” approach. It is an unconstitutional variation of our broken laws that impose more danger, more criminalization, and fewer safe options, contrary to the requirement of the Supreme Court of Canada to address these dangerous and ineffective laws.

This made in Canada model will lead to continued epidemic of violence against sex workers in Canada.

Here is a look at some of the specific provisions:

Provision 213: “Stopping or impeding traffic and Communicating to provide sexual services for consideration”
There is only one thing different about the Communicating provision than the pre-Bedford regime. What was previously section 213(1)(c) of the Code now applies only to communicating “in a public place, or in any place open to public view”, “for the purpose of offering or providing sexual services for consideration”, that is or is next to a place “where persons under the age of 18 can reasonably to be expected to present.”

All other aspects of section 213, including stopping or impeding traffic, remain criminalized and apply to everyone. These offenses remain summary offences.

Constitutional Implications:
This amounts to a version of the Communicating law in Bedford that is only marginally narrower, and defies the spirit of the judgment, which was concerned with the displacement of sex workers and blocking the ability to screen clients for safety. All that will be required for police to surveil and target sex workers is the suggestion that a person under the age of 18 can reasonably be expected to be present. This law will function in a highly similar fashion to the Communicating provision that the Bedford court struck down for creating dangerous circumstances, and will violate section 7 of the Charter.

Provision 286: Prohibition against the purchase of sexual services
“Commodification of Sexual Activity”
s. 286.1(1): Obtaining Sexual Services for Consideration
This single aspect of the law is similar to the Nordic model, in that it applies to purchasing or communicating in order to obtain sexual services.

This provision criminalizes everyone who, in any place, purchases or communicates in order to obtain sexual services. This provision adds mandatory fines to all violations. Sanctions can range from mandatory minimum fines ranging from $500 to $4,000, to five years in jail. These new mandatory fines are higher for repeat offenders and for anyone who purchases sex in a place where a person under 18 could reasonably be found.

The addition of tough punishments for clients will force sex workers to go to great lengths in order to help their clients avoid these sanctions. This will recreate the dangerous conditions that the court in Bedford said made the criminal law unconstitutional.

Key Considerations: Prohibiting the purchase of sexual services creates extremely dangerous conditions for sex workers. In Sweden, Norway and in Canadian cities where law enforcement is directed at clients, sex workers are displaced to unsafe areas, do not have time to screen clients, have diminished access to police protection and are less able to operate in safe indoor venues. In Norway, violence against sex workers increased following the enactment of the law. Two recent reports about sex work in Vancouver found that street-based sex workers are facing extremely dangerous working conditions as a result of law enforcement targeted at their clients.

Constitutional Implications: While criminalizing the purchase of sexual services is said to be aimed at protecting sex workers, this prohibition will have the same harmful impact as the current adult prostitution laws that were struck down by the Supreme Court of Canada in Bedford. For this reason, a ban on purchasing sex or communicating for the purpose to obtain sexual services, would violate the security of the person rights of sex workers, which are protected by s. 7 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Provision 286.2: “Material Benefit from Sexual Services”
The new provision continues to criminalize those who gain material benefits from sex work. This replaces the “living on the avails” provision that was struck down in Bedford.

This version of the law does not apply to those in “legitimate living arrangements” or with “legal or moral obligations” to sex workers. It does apply to exploitative and abusive relationships, and to those in which a person supplies drugs or alcohol.

The provision includes as an aggravating factor the fact that sexual services are part of a commercial enterprise. This means that the provision includes an aggravating factor that is already an element of the offence.

Key Considerations:
Being able to work together or to employ safety services is a key component of a safe sex trade.
This provision does not assist in making this more possible for most sex workers.

It will only apply to occasional ad hoc services for sex workers. It does not allow sex workers to establish regular secure conditions for themselves.

The clarifications around exploitative relationships may be of assistance but in a very limited capacity.

Constitutional Implications:
It still impairs the ability of sex workers to retain assistance in their work through employees or contractors. The provision applies to benefits received in the context of a commercial enterprise offering sexual services.

The bill also intrudes in personal relationships by exempting “legitimate living arrangements”.

This provision does not remedy the problem the SCC addressed by striking down the living on the avails provision. It introduces uncertainty, criminalizes relationships intended to improve safety, and recreates the same harms.

Provision 286.4: Advertising Sexual Services
The bill proposes to ban any advertising of sexual services, stating:

Everyone who knowingly advertises an offer to provide sexual services for consideration is guilty of
(a) an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than five years; or
(b) an offence punishable on summary conviction and liable to imprisonment for a term on not more than 18 months.

Key Considerations: This is an entirely new provision that attempts to radically change the sex trade in Canada. Without the ability to advertise in newspapers, online, or other forms of media, sex workers will now have severely limited means for working safely indoors. This is particularly concerning given that the court in Bedford clearly found that the ability to operate in safe indoor venues is a key measure for sex workers to reduce their risk. This new provision does not ban working indoors itself, which is not surprising given that the Supreme Court of Canada clearly stated that such a law would violate theCharter. But this new provision makes the option of safe indoor work all but impossible.

We should also have serious doubts about the capacity of the state to enforce this law, and the extraordinary resources that such enforcement would absorb.

Constitutional Implications: By restricting the ability of sex workers to effectively work indoors, this provision engages sex workers section 7 rights in that increases the risks faced by sex workers. It also violates sex worker’s section 2(b) rights by restricting their freedom of expression. This is a very misguided law, which is contrary to both the letter and spirit of the Supreme Court’s decision in Bedford. There is little question that Canadian courts would declare this new prohibition on advertising to be unconstitutional.


http://www.pivotlegal.org/the_new_sex_work_legislation_explained
 

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A question.... and sorry if it is stupid question.

When they produce this Bill in the Commons today does that mean it becomes law either today or tomorrow, or within the very near future? Or do they have to go through more steps before it becomes law? This is where I am confused and not sure of.
It will take quite some time before any of this becomes law, if it ever does. Today the Bill was tabled. It still has to pass through three votes in the House before it goes to the Senate. If the Senate passes the bill it will then go to the Governor General for Royal Assent, which is a formality. It may pass first reading in the House before Summer break, but that's all. It will receive Second Reading sometime in the Fall, after which it will go to committee hearings, where any changes would be suggested. At this stage it could be sent back to the House with recommendations for changes before Third reading. After the Bill passes third reading it then goes to the Senate. The Senate could then pass it as is or also hold committee meetings and suggest changes. This will take us very close to, if not past, the Dec. 20th deadline set by the Supreme Court. But, it's highly unlikely that this legislation, as it now stands, will ever see the light of day because it is so blatantly unconstitutional and goes against the Charter of Rights in a number of its provisions. It will probably face a Supreme Court challenge before it ever becomes law. Either way, it will almost certainly not survive a Charter challenge.
 

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It will take quite some time before any of this becomes law, if it ever does. Today the Bill was tabled. It still has to pass through three votes in the House before it goes to the Senate. If the Senate passes the bill it will then go to the Governor General for Royal Assent, which is a formality. It may pass first reading in the House before Summer break, but that's all. It will receive Second Reading sometime in the Fall, after which it will go to committee hearings, where any changes would be suggested. At this stage it could be sent back to the House with recommendations for changes before Third reading. After the Bill passes third reading it then goes to the Senate. The Senate could then pass it as is or also hold committee meetings and suggest changes. This will take us very close to, if not past, the Dec. 20th deadline set by the Supreme Court. But, it's highly unlikely that this legislation, as it now stands, will ever see the light of day because it is so blatantly unconstitutional and goes against the Charter of Rights in a number of its provisions. It will probably face a Supreme Court challenge before it ever becomes law. Either way, it will almost certainly not survive a Charter challenge.
Can anyone challenge it or does it have to be Bedford who started this??
 

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Can anyone challenge it or does it have to be Bedford who started this??
There are two ways to challenge a law.

1. Someone who is charged under the law can challenge its constitutionality.
2. The government itself can send a reference question to the courts to rule on the constitutionality of the law.

Assuming the government will not ask the reference question on its own, we would have to wait until a private citizen is charged under the law.

As far as Ms. Bedford is concerned, her case is completely done. There is nothing further she can do.
 

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Or may be a sex worker who is harmed as a result of new laws. no? gathering evidence of harm is essential.
You need to have standing to bring a case before the courts. A private individual has no standing to challenge a law, in and of itself, outside of being a party to a legal proceeding where that law is at issue.

The sex worker who isn't charged would have no standing to challenge the law.

But I'm sure as soon as the first client is charged, an army of lawyers will descend upon him to represent him pro bono with the purpose to challenge the law all the way to the supreme court. And then all of the standard sex worker groups can join in as intervenors, just like with Bedford.
 

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I think the best bet is a sex worker will be charged for communicating in public as a client cannot argue for his constitutional right to purchase sex but she can argue that the government doesn't allow her to work in private place.
He doesn't have to argue that the law is unconstitutional because it violates *his* rights. He can argue that it is unconstitutional because it violates the Charter (because it doesn't address safety issues with regards to sex workers, etc.)
 

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There are two ways to challenge a law.

1. Someone who is charged under the law can challenge its constitutionality.
2. The government itself can send a reference question to the courts to rule on the constitutionality of the law.

Assuming the government will not ask the reference question on its own, we would have to wait until a private citizen is charged under the law.

As far as Ms. Bedford is concerned, her case is completely done. There is nothing further she can do.

So only the government can ask a reference question, but not a citizen?
 

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So only the government can ask a reference question, but not a citizen?
Correct. With enough politic pressure, lobby groups could probably convince a provincial AG to send a reference question to the courts though, especially where the issue is of national importance.
 

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Correct. With enough politic pressure, lobby groups could probably convince a provincial AG to send a reference question to the courts though, especially where the issue is of national importance.
Ok thanks. This is very disturbing. The proposed legislation looks so draconian. It effectively bans prostitution, but doing that outright would appear discriminatory or harsh for the so called 'marginalized' segment of society - basically, not politically correct.

We are 'perpetrators or perverts'.

Fuck you MacKay.

Someone asked in a review of an MPA what this legislation would do to massage parlours. What's your take DY?
 

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She can be charged for soliciting in public place (name a public place where no kids are expected to pass by) and other laws prevent her from working in private place ( no online advertising, bawdy houses kept illegal )
She could challenge the law under which she was charged. But she couldn't just start challenging other laws that weren't part of her case. So, if she was charged under the public solicitation in public law, she could challenge that. But if her case did not involve being charged for advertising on the internet, she couldn't just suddenly add that to the arguments of her defense.

Basically, the court can only rule on the issues of law relevant to a particular case before it. So, if her case doesn't involve internet advertising, then there would be no reason for it to be an issue to be decided in her case.

Also, keep in mind that the online advertising law doesn't apply to independents who advertise their own sexual services. And I don't think the feds did anything explicit to the bawdy house laws, which will expire on their own at year's end. So, as far as I know, as of January 2015, indies can work out of their homes and keep a bawdy house.
 

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Someone asked in a review of an MPA what this legislation would do to massage parlours. What's your take DY?
My take is that I don't think it is the intention of the law to go after the current state of strip joints and massage parlors. Yes, the language of the bill could take those two things down, and would give LE the legal backing to do so if and when they choose. The government loves having the latitude to do things but the ability to pick and choose when to enforce.

I think LE will leave strip joints and massage parlors alone, unless there is underage stuff going on.
 

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My take is that I don't think it is the intention of the law to go after the current state of strip joints and massage parlors. Yes, the language of the bill could take those two things down, and would give LE the legal backing to do so if and when they choose. The government loves having the latitude to do things but the ability to pick and choose when to enforce.

I think LE will leave strip joints and massage parlors alone, unless there is underage stuff going on.

Okay. You said that indies who advertise won't be affected. I haven't examined the changes in detail, but why are indies okay to advertise? Isn't it also incompatible to allow an indie to thrive if I can't purchase her service? (I say again, Fuck you MacKay and Harper. We've been had. How dare they impugn us good men of character who adore the consenting woman that provide us with company.).
 

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In Bedford case she was charged only for running a bawdy house.
Yes, you're right. I take back what I wrote above about private citizens.

Any party, as of right, can bring a constitutional challenge to a law where the law may impose unconstitutional limits on their rights. The court would still have to allow the case, although I'm sure they would in this case.

A public interest group can also bring a challenge if it can show that the law raises a serious issue, no one else can bring the issue before the courts and the group has a genuine interest in the issue.
 

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Okay. You said that indies who advertise won't be affected. I haven't examined the changes in detail, but why are indies okay to advertise?
Well, they added that as an exception to the internet advertising ban. I agree, it makes no sense that you can advertise something for sale and legally sell it, but no other party can legally purchase it.
 
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