Moslem Imam Preaching the usual and the norm in islamic world, HATE!!
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Never is a long timeEsco! said:In other words probably never gonna happen since both hosues are held by Democrats.
Very interesting Papa, I learned something today
If a threat exists it could.
As I said, I'm not sure you understand how the process works. Once troops have been committed, the President as commander-in-chief generally holds the cards. A slim majority in Congress doesn't hurt the opposition, but it isn't enough to over-ride a President determined to stay a particular course, as the immovable object George seems to be doing. The War Powers Act, first passed to curtail the actions of a renegade President, has been so watered down as to be useless. Cutting off funds for the war, the one power Congress could exercise, is a non-issue. Any attempt would be political suicide. It will take Republican defection, which seems to have begun, to truly change to the direction of this war. George won't be moved easily, if at all. Most of the clean-up for this mess will be left to the next administration, after George rides off into the sunset.Blake659 said:
I'm reminded of a Civil War general, particularly boastful and pig-headed in his claims to being able to lead his men to victory. He liked to say his headquarters were in the saddle. After witnessing several blunders under his command, his leutenants began to comment that he had his headquarters where his hindquarters should have been. George to a "t".
Any President can commit troops or order strikes without congressional approval. Getting a resolution passed allowing the President to proceed is at best considered polite and politically expedient. Off hand, I can't remember anytime in the last several decades when Congress has refused a President what they wanted as far as military action, if ever. Resolutions on this are a rubber stamp. Congress was originally given the sole power to declare war, but this hasn't happened since WWII. Presidents since have simply side stepped the issue, and have pretty much done what they please without formal declaration. A matter of semantics.papasmerf said:
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THE POINT IS..THE dEMOCRATS HAVE THE POWER....TO CORRECT THINGS...TO RIGHT ALL THE WRONGS....."CAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS'
I KNOW HOW POLITICS WORKS...TOO OFTEN IT IS JUST A SHOW FOR POWER
WILL THE DEMOCRATS USE THE POWER???
THEY CERTAINLY HAVE THE VOTES TO IMPEACH HIM....BUT ITS ALWAYS EASY TO SHOUT WHEN YOU ARE IN A MINORITY...NOW THAT THEY HAVE THE VOTES.. NOT SURE THE DEMOCRATS (LIBS) HAVE THE STOMACH TO DO WHAT THEY HAVE PUSHED GEORGE TO DO FOR SO LONG!!!!!
THE POINT IS..THE dEMOCRATS HAVE THE POWER....TO CORRECT THINGS...TO RIGHT ALL THE WRONGS....."CAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS'
I KNOW HOW POLITICS WORKS...TOO OFTEN IT IS JUST A SHOW FOR POWER
WILL THE DEMOCRATS USE THE POWER???
THEY CERTAINLY HAVE THE VOTES TO IMPEACH HIM....BUT ITS ALWAYS EASY TO SHOUT WHEN YOU ARE IN A MINORITY...NOW THAT THEY HAVE THE VOTES.. NOT SURE THE DEMOCRATS (LIBS) HAVE THE STOMACH TO DO WHAT THEY HAVE PUSHED GEORGE TO DO FOR SO LONG!!!!!
Your usual thoughtful response. To impeach, perhaps. To convict, no way. At this point the attempt would serve no purpose, and would do nothing to get our butts out of Iraq. Enough Republicans are going to have to join Democrats to put pressure on George to begin disengaging, and the way things are going I think Republicans will fairly quickly.
You make one fatal flaw...
You seem to suggeast that disengaging is the way things should go....
an opinion I agree.......But there are ANSWERS to the proplem of the growing storm in the East...I or You do no have the answers....but DISENGAGING is no one of them...In my opinion.
I would double the soldiers there....cut off all supply routes from the east.....Make sure outside influences from Iran..and Syrai to the north are stopped. Then engage the militias and disarm them.
Put weapons in the hands of a democratically elected goevernment and not every tom dick and harry that wants to run a wee war....
Also fight war with war.....Reverse the propoganda war and spread the word from the west as you and I know it is. Should we......YES....Cause you and I know the closed society with State television and radio is not seeing the truth!!! They spread LIES...YOU AND I KNOW IT....Which is the basis for the growing storm...
You seem to suggeast that disengaging is the way things should go....
an opinion I agree.......But there are ANSWERS to the proplem of the growing storm in the East...I or You do no have the answers....but DISENGAGING is no one of them...In my opinion.
I would double the soldiers there....cut off all supply routes from the east.....Make sure outside influences from Iran..and Syrai to the north are stopped. Then engage the militias and disarm them.
Put weapons in the hands of a democratically elected goevernment and not every tom dick and harry that wants to run a wee war....
Also fight war with war.....Reverse the propoganda war and spread the word from the west as you and I know it is. Should we......YES....Cause you and I know the closed society with State television and radio is not seeing the truth!!! They spread LIES...YOU AND I KNOW IT....Which is the basis for the growing storm...
Yes..double And Triple The Troops!!
There Are Many Many Nations In This World......many Of Whom Should Be Contributing Way More To The Troop Count...i Don't Only Speak About Americans....the Whole World Should Be Worried About The Growing Storm!!!!
i REALLY GET TIRED OF ALL THE U.S.A. BASHING WHEN THEY HELP ALL COUNTRIES...YOU AND I HELP WITH $.......WE ARE FIRST AND LOUDEST WHEN IT COMES TO AID FOR POOR COUNTRIES....BUT OTHER COUNTRIES...cANADA INCLUDED...RIDE ON THE BACK OF THE AMERICANS!!!!
IM HOPING HARPER GETS INTO THE ACT AS WELL....HE SHOULD!!!!!
There Are Many Many Nations In This World......many Of Whom Should Be Contributing Way More To The Troop Count...i Don't Only Speak About Americans....the Whole World Should Be Worried About The Growing Storm!!!!
i REALLY GET TIRED OF ALL THE U.S.A. BASHING WHEN THEY HELP ALL COUNTRIES...YOU AND I HELP WITH $.......WE ARE FIRST AND LOUDEST WHEN IT COMES TO AID FOR POOR COUNTRIES....BUT OTHER COUNTRIES...cANADA INCLUDED...RIDE ON THE BACK OF THE AMERICANS!!!!
IM HOPING HARPER GETS INTO THE ACT AS WELL....HE SHOULD!!!!!
The US had their chance to convince the world that invading Iraq was imperative, but when it didn't exactly take, George and Tony decided to go it alone. Reap what you sow. To expect any other country to help bail us out of this disaster now is laughable. Nobody is that stupid.
But....The fact they went there is not necessarliy a mistake.
Perhaps in your mind....But the fact other countries are not yet convinced and won't join in does not make them RIGHT.
I happen to believe that appeasement, especially by Europe, will not work. Appeasement keeps the Europeans happy and avoids them from getting into a fight.....But it does not stop the fight from coming to you!!!!
Perhaps in your mind....But the fact other countries are not yet convinced and won't join in does not make them RIGHT.
I happen to believe that appeasement, especially by Europe, will not work. Appeasement keeps the Europeans happy and avoids them from getting into a fight.....But it does not stop the fight from coming to you!!!!
No exactly
The 'blow up in your face thing"....Is called war......And I am so happy that we are trying to calm the storm.
Make no mistake.....Not invading....allowes the storm to grow.
Again. I don;t have all the answers, but the storm was / is growing......... This wee skirmish going on now is not what started the storm.
Imams long have preached hatred and beheadings to the west.....IT MUST BE STOPPED
The 'blow up in your face thing"....Is called war......And I am so happy that we are trying to calm the storm.
Make no mistake.....Not invading....allowes the storm to grow.
Again. I don;t have all the answers, but the storm was / is growing......... This wee skirmish going on now is not what started the storm.
Imams long have preached hatred and beheadings to the west.....IT MUST BE STOPPED
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Didn't know you cared.
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I take exception to that Esco.
Who are you to talk down to someone.....You have no idea who Lansclad is....But I always find it interesting how the liberal left democrats are always good at criticizing.....War, Bush, Americans, Harper....Anyhting that someone else does.....and they don't like...CRITICIZE IT!!!!!......but really never have much thought go into their own solutions...Come to think of it....libs are more into..."Live and let live"......Which of course is all good until the western way of life is dramatically changed....And then we'll see who the liberals are upset at.
As we know..Its the libs who like all the toys...the excess....and of course the big cars etc etc.....
I hope the storm does not crash on the libs.........
Who are you to talk down to someone.....You have no idea who Lansclad is....But I always find it interesting how the liberal left democrats are always good at criticizing.....War, Bush, Americans, Harper....Anyhting that someone else does.....and they don't like...CRITICIZE IT!!!!!......but really never have much thought go into their own solutions...Come to think of it....libs are more into..."Live and let live"......Which of course is all good until the western way of life is dramatically changed....And then we'll see who the liberals are upset at.
As we know..Its the libs who like all the toys...the excess....and of course the big cars etc etc.....
I hope the storm does not crash on the libs.........
