More Republican hypocrisy

[TOVisitor]

Aaaahhhhh .... that sweet smell.

We all remember Newt Gingrich, pursecutor of Bill Clinton and protector of Republican family values.

Gingrich had affair during Clinton probe
By BEN EVANS, Associated Press Writer Thu Mar 8, 8:42 PM ET

WASHINGTON - Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich acknowledged he was having an extramarital affair even as he led the charge against
President Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky affair, he acknowledged in an interview with a conservative Christian group.

"The honest answer is yes," Gingrich, a potential 2008 Republican presidential candidate, said in an interview with Focus on the Family founder James Dobson to be aired Friday, according to a transcript provided to The Associated Press. "There are times that I have fallen short of my own standards. There's certainly times when I've fallen short of God's standards."

Gingrich argued in the interview, however, that he should not be viewed as a hypocrite for pursuing Clinton's infidelity.

"The president of the United States got in trouble for committing a felony in front of a sitting federal judge," the former Georgia congressman said of Clinton's 1998 House impeachment on perjury and obstruction of justice charges. "I drew a line in my mind that said, 'Even though I run the risk of being deeply embarrassed, and even though at a purely personal level I am not rendering judgment on another human being, as a leader of the government trying to uphold the rule of law, I have no choice except to move forward and say that you cannot accept ... perjury in your highest officials."

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Gingrich, who frequently campaigned on family values issues, divorced his second wife, Marianne, in 2000 after his attorneys acknowledged Gingrich's relationship with his current wife, Callista Bisek, a former congressional aide more than 20 years younger than he is.

His first marriage, to his former high school geometry teacher, Jackie Battley, ended in divorce in 1981. Although Gingrich has said he doesn't remember it, Battley has said Gingrich discussed divorce terms with her while she was recuperating in the hospital from cancer surgery.

and this ...

If you believe Newt Gingrich's former mistress Anne Manning, the Speaker has for decades relied on the blowjob as the sex act with built-in plausible deniability. Referring to her first date in 1977 with Gingrich, Manning told Vanity Fair in 1995: "We had oral sex. He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, 'I never slept with her."'

How far away is Newt's "I never slept with her" from Bill's "I never had sex with her"?

And gee, I wonder what is Newt's position is on the Libby pardon?

 

[papasmerf]

Aaaahhhhh .... that sweet smell.

We all remember Newt Gingrich, pursecutor of Bill Clinton and protector of Republican family values.



and this ...



How far away is Newt's "I never slept with her" from Bill's "I never had sex with her"?

And gee, I wonder what is Newt's position is on the Libby pardon?

Shit-for brains.....Yes you tov...........Clinton was impeached for perjury not for having poor taste in women.

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

99% of the "family values" Republicans are hypocrites. Is this news?

Newt Gingrich is an asshole. Is this news?

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

Shit-for brains.....Yes you tov...........Clinton was impeached for perjury not for having poor taste in women.

You can't see the hypocricy in this Papa?

 

[papasmerf]

You can't see the hypocracy in this Papa?

Actually committing perjury as a President is a major crime....Cheating on hillery is a husbands right. Unless of course you think hillery personifies women.

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

Actually committing perjury as a President is a major crime....Cheating on hillery is a husbands right. Unless of course you think hillery personifies women.

As I recall, the alleged perjury occurred because of Clinton's testimony during a witch hunt over his sexual activities. A witch hunt that was driven by those who placed Clinton's morality on trial. These same people were doing the same thing Clinton was doing, and you still can't see the hypocricy?

I'm no fan of Bubba, but compared to the past 6 years, he doesn't seem so bad to me.

 

[TOVisitor]

Shit-for brains.....Yes you tov...........Clinton was impeached for perjury not for having poor taste in women.

Shit-for brains.....Yes you papa. Clinton was NOT impeached.

 

[TOVisitor]

99% of the "family values" Republicans are hypocrites. Is this news?

Newt Gingrich is an asshole. Is this news?

Newt wants to be President, so yes, this is news.

 

[papasmerf]

As I recall, the alleged perjury occurred because of Clinton's testimony during a witch hunt over his sexual activities. A witch hunt that was driven by those who placed Clinton's morality on trial. These same people were doing the same thing Clinton was doing, and you still can't see the hypocricy?

Mind if I ask a question?

Who brought these charges to the Senate and Congress???????


Seems to me the "saved dress" by a dentists daughter and her best friend opened this investigation to the pubic not a political party........Feel free to show a tie to the republiclans thru monica

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

Mind if I ask a question?

Who brought these charges to the Senate and Congress???????


Seems to me the "saved dress" by a dentists daughter and her best friend opened this investigation to the pubic not a political party........Feel free to show a tie to the republiclans thru monica

The Republicans such as Newt, made it a witch hunt.

The only people who cared what Clinton was doing with the interns was the Republican congress. Let's face it Papa, there were maybe only 2 Presidents in history who didn't partake in any extra curricular activities. Nixon and GWB.

Considering the record of the morally superior Presidents, I suggest you make sure the next one likes a little action on the side.

 

[danmand]

The Republicans such as Newt, made it a witch hunt.

The only people who cared what Clinton was doing with the interns was the Republican congress. Let's face it Papa, there were maybe only 2 Presidents in history who didn't partake in any extra curricular activities. Nixon and GWB.

Considering the record of the morally superior Presidents, I suggest you make sure the next one likes a little action on the side.

LOL .

 

[papasmerf]

The Republicans such as Newt, made it a witch hunt.

The only people who cared what Clinton was doing with the interns was the Republican congress. Let's face it Papa, there were maybe only 2 Presidents in history who didn't partake in any extra curricular activities. Nixon and GWB.

Considering the record of the morally superior Presidents, I suggest you make sure the next one likes a little action on the side.

Well unless you are Newt you can not with impunity say what he thought.

But you are moronic and can say what you like.

 

[TOVisitor]

Mind if I ask a question?

Who brought these charges to the Senate and Congress???????


Seems to me the "saved dress" by a dentists daughter and her best friend opened this investigation to the pubic not a political party........Feel free to show a tie to the republicans thru monica

Damn, you ARE an idiot.

That "friend" was Linda Tripp. I will let wikipedia take over from here:

Goldberg met Linda Tripp in the early part of the Clinton administration while assisting an author writing a book on Vince Foster.

Remember Vince Foster? He's the guy that the far-right claimed that the Clintons had killed?

Tripp spoke with Goldberg resulting in Lewinsky bringing the tapes to her in 1997. Goldberg also urged Tripp to take the tapes to Kenneth Starr and brought the tapes to the attention of people working on the Paula Jones case. She started speaking to reporters about the tapes in the fall of 1997 notably Michael Isikoff of Newsweek. Within days of the scandal breaking on the Drudge Report, the Democratic National Committee circulated an "information sheet" to reporters with information intended to damage Goldberg. Goldberg spoke at an anti-Clinton rally organised by the Free Republic.

Free Republic is one of the worst hate sites on the far right (a site admired much by our lost friend, Arclighter) and they love the Shrub.

Although Goldberg was deeply involved in the Lewinsky scandal, Starr never subpoenaed her to testify in front of the Grand Jury. Starr never explained why he did not subpoena her.

Following the impeachment scandal, Goldberg has launched a conservative internet forum called lucianne.com. The forum is similar in format to the Free Republic. Though the forum does not allow "Articles from hate group sites such as KKK, Aryan Nation, American Nazi Party, etc.", it has been criticized for racist comments posted on its forums. Mark Lane, founder of the now defunct website LucianneWatch.com, complained about the website's content to the US Marines, prompting them to pull their advertising from the site.

Enough connections to Repubs, papa? Or do you want more?

 

[papasmerf]

Damn, you ARE an idiot.

That "friend" was Linda Tripp. I will let wikipedia take over from here:



Remember Vince Foster? He's the guy that the far-right claimed that the Clintons had killed?



Free Republic is one of the worst hate sites on the far right (a site admired much by our lost friend, Arclighter) and they love the Shrub.





Enough connections to Repubs, papa? Or do you want more?

Ahhh tov


you are indeed a usefull idodit..... Remember when you used to pretend to live in Buffalo??????????? Shame you are unable to come visit

 

[TOVisitor]

Ahhh tov


you are indeed a usefull idodit..... Remember when you used to pretend to live in Buffalo??????????? Shame you are unable to come visit

I never pretended to live in Buffalo. I travel quite a bit and thought you might want to visit me at the local recruiting station so you could sign up and defend our country, since you are so scared of "ragheads" under your bed.

Instead, you are just another useless chickenhawk.

So now that you have connections from Monica to Repubs, do we have any contrition from you? Or just more of the same old inane drivel?

<crickets chirping>

 

[papasmerf]

I never pretended to live in Buffalo. I travel quite a bit and thought you might want to visit me at the local recruiting station so you could sign up and defend our country, since you are so scared of "ragheads" under your bed.

Instead, you are just another useless chickenhawk.

So now that you have connections from Monica to Repubs, do we have any contrition from you? Or just more of the same old inane drivel?

<crickets chirping>

Ya know what? Ya cant dance either. time to re-invent yorself

 

[papasmerf]

From the WIKI:
President Bill Clinton was acquitted by the Senate on February 12, 1999 of the December 19, 1998, impeachment charge by the House of Representatives. The charges were perjury and obstruction of justice, arising from the Lewinsky scandal. After a 21-day trial, the Senate vote fell short of the two-thirds majority required for conviction and removal from office under the Constitution. The impeachment proceedings were largely party-line, with no Democratic Senators voting for conviction and only three Democratic Representatives voting for impeachment. In all, 55 senators voted "not guilty," and 45 voted "guilty" on the charge of perjury. The Senate also acquitted on the obstruction charge with 50 votes cast each way.

So the truth is that he WAS NOT impeached for either charge as the senate did not vote to impeach.
And while it might be distasteful (Pardon the pun) that he busted a nut on Monica's blue dress it was not why they moved to impeach. It was because he lied about it.

Education time..........IMPEACH or IMPEACHMENT is the action not the result. IMPEACHED would be the result.

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

And while it might be distasteful (Pardon the pun) that he busted a nut on Monica's blue dress it was not why they moved to impeach. It was because he lied about it.

I think everyone understands that. The problem I had was with the witch hunt that led to his alleged lies.

Clinton may have been loose with his definition of sex, but according to the article quoted in this thread, so was Gingrich.

Herein lies the hyporcicy.

 

[WoodPeckr]

Personally I think that all politicians are hypocrites so it doesn't bother me.

Very true but face it nobody does 'hypocrisy' better than the GOP!

"When assessing the legacy of Bill Clinton, we can't overlook his shameful sexual behavior in the Oval Office... Indeed, it is my belief that no man has ever done more to debase the presidency or to undermine our Constitution -- and particularly the moral and biblical principles upon which it is based -- than has William Jefferson Clinton."
-James Dobson, discussing President Bill Clinton’s extra-marital affair while in office, January, 2001


In 2001, James Dobson condemned President Clinton for his affair with Monica Lewinsky, saying Clinton had done more than anyone before him to "undermine our Constitution."

Today, Dobson provided a platform on his radio show for former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich to admit to his own extra-marital affair -- at precisely the time he was leading the call for the impeachment of President Clinton. Did Dobson attack Gingrich -- as he did Clinton -- as an enemy of the Constitution, our nation, or even his proclaimed "moral and biblical principles?"

No, he praised Gingrich as a national leader and applauded his "friend's" willingness to discuss such issues on his show.

This double standard cuts to the heart of the religious right's hypocrisy.

Instead of holding their own leaders and allies -- from Ralph Reed to Ted Haggard and Newt Gingrich -- to the standards they attempt to impose on America, they craft excuses and create exceptions.

Please take a moment to forward this message to your friends and family and encourage them to join our campaign to hold the religious right accountable for the hypocrisy. If you're not already a DefCon Defender, click here to join our campaign and oppose the religious right's war on science, freedom, and American democracy.

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[papasmerf]

Thats right, Dubya won't perjure himself because nobody is going to try to impeach him.

Having another wet dream??