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LP191

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Once the crash really hits things will change. I remember Vegas after it hit in 2008 there were tons of Part-timers working the casinos. I got Toronto service and pricing on more than one occasion with hotties just looking to pay their phone bill or car note.
A phone bill can be $150 easily lol
 

Ceiling Cat

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I find there is more milfs in the market but less young sub 25 college girls There is more quantity to choose from in milf group but less in sub 25 age group. I guess the sub 25 age group are more available in surgat baby market? Anyone can confirm ?
The age group 20 to 24 is close in size to the 50 to 54 age group. You may think there are less young people because most of the younger girls are most taken. When you were in your 20s the 50 to 54 age group was much smaller and not close in proportion to the 20 to 24 year old group.


As of 2025, the population of Canada is 40,126,723, with the following age distribution:

  • 0-4 years: 5.40% of the total population
  • 5-9 years: 5.74% of the total population
  • 10-14 years: 5.47% of the total population
  • 15-19 years: 5.76% of the total population
  • 20-24 years: 6.38% of the total population
  • 25-29 years: 6.50% of the total population
  • 30-34 years: 6.63% of the total population
  • 35-39 years: 6.51% of the total population
  • 40-44 years: 6.42% of the total population
  • 45-49 years: 6.71% of the total population
  • 50-54 years: 7.62% of the total population
  • 55-59 years: 7.45% of the total population
  • 60-64 years: 6.52% of the total population
  • 65-69 years: 5.61% of the total population
  • 70-74 years: 4.04% of the total population
  • 75-79 years: 2.91% of the total population
  • 80-84 years: 2.13% of the total population
  • 85-89 years: 1.37% of the total population
  • 90-94 years: 0.64% of the total population
  • 95-99 years: 0.16% of the total population
  • 100+ years: 0.02% of the total population
 
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mdo2886

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As someone who has been doing this for a while (10 years +) hobbying scene in Toronto is probably worse than it has ever been. Prices have become somewhat prohibitive (not that I blame the girls or agencies at all for raising them) and many of the main agencies have girls who have been around quite a while (too long) and are more pros at this point.

Anyone who was around for the golden days of Mirage and Roommates will know what I am talking about - new to industry girls all the time, no shortage of options and at 150/hh.

Even a few years ago HPL was coming up with many new fresh gems all the time but not so much anymore.

Likely to do with OF and SBabying.
 

Ceiling Cat

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Unfortunately, most people are financial illiterate and brainwashed by consumerism, buy shit they don’t need. We don’t teach kids in school about the value of money and how to save up & invest.

Being financially literate is the skill I believe will guide me best through the difficult times I see ahead. I grew up in a family immersed in banking and finance, and my informal education began at the age of ten. By the time I graduated high school, I was already able to hold meaningful conversations with professionals in the field.
Over the years, I’ve developed expertise in several areas, many of which have served me well. But today, the knowledge that holds the greatest value for me is finance. I know a woman who’s a lawyer, not a particularly successful one. She’s moved from job to job and now contracts with small towns, prosecuting minor offenses like parking violations in municipal court. Sometimes one area of expertise just isn’t enough.
 

jetfuel

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Times are hard and will get even harder, which will see more girls in the field trying to cover their expenses.

The Seeking arrangement sites are full of young girls, if I had that kind of money I would probably have more fun in that arena.

My regular SP has checked her phone the last few times after our session and commented about how no one has texted her.

Things are tough all around it seems.
 
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Jubee

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A saturated market is always good. A few will be smart and be reasonable with their prices and those are the ones that will do well and in the process.
Those are the ones that I will go see, anything over $300/hr is insane because it's not just them feeling the the cost of living it's us as well.
 

dotdotdot69

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Their expenses by generally making bad life decisions like overly partying and wasting funds on booze and smokes and spending to show off isn't my problem. But it does bring great looking ladies who wanna live for today and not worry about tmrw to the market. I'll pay for their service based on if I deem their rate to be suitable otherwise I can still shop around. You can't teach someone who's brainwashed to live for today how to save up. At most I got my ex-wife to save a few thousand then she got bored and blew it on liabilities and luckily we had separate bank accounts and she chose not to touch mine after we split up which was extremely wise of her. Those were funds I earned before meeting her along with moving things around to gain more. I'd never ever disclose my full assets to anyone especially a future partner. Generally when people find out what you got their mindset is why have that and not spend it all now.

And I've come across a few BBWs wanting $300H and I laughed especially when one said why should she charge less when there's more of her when I compared her size and rate to someone average in size asking for the same. Bitch forgot when her fat ass goes on a plane she needs to buy 2 tickets cause she eats too much McDs and washes it down with Starbucks. There's been a few like that asking too much and I've got them at times to lower their rates if they wanted to meet up. Or one messaged me back before she was gonna leave the room if I still wanted to come for less but the timing didn't work out. I'm sure some live in some dream world then when reality hits them they get upset. The Johns out there paying overrated prices will slowly slow down too and some of these ladies who need the funds will have no choice but to lower their rate. Get 1 client all day who caved into some BBW paying $300 or 400H but she lost out on perhaps 4 or 5 clients who would have given her $200 or 250H. That's roughly losing out on an additional $600 or more just in 1 day. You ain't "Gucci" you're fucking "Fenty". Your debt situation doesn't mean you should charge more. There's a reason why even a brand like Reebok is now in Walmart than them trying to make money by rising their prices cause people weren't buy as much compared to other brands.
 
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TauCeti

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I’m noticing hundreds and hundreds of women out there in my area and the GTA entirely that are posting daily.. I have never seen so many SP’s out there! Must be a sign of the times.. wow
And that is why $200 hr escorts will always always always be available
 

Daddy2021

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Their expenses by generally making bad life decisions like overly partying and wasting funds on booze and smokes and spending to show off isn't my problem. But it does bring great looking ladies who wanna live for today and not worry about tmrw to the market. I'll pay for their service based on if I deem their rate to be suitable otherwise I can still shop around. You can't teach someone who's brainwashed to live for today how to save up. At most I got my ex-wife to save a few thousand then she got bored and blew it on liabilities and luckily we had separate bank accounts and she chose not to touch mine after we split up which was extremely wise of her. Those were funds I earned before meeting her along with moving things around to gain more. I'd never ever disclose my full assets to anyone especially a future partner. Generally when people find out what you got their mindset is why have that and not spend it all now.

And I've come across a few BBWs wanting $300H and I laughed especially when one said why should she charge less when there's more of her when I compared her size and rate to someone average in size asking for the same. Bitch forgot when her fat ass goes on a plane she needs to buy 2 tickets cause she eats too much McDs and washes it down with Starbucks. There's been a few like that asking too much and I've got them at times to lower their rates if they wanted to meet up. Or one messaged me back before she was gonna leave the room if I still wanted to come for less but the timing didn't work out. I'm sure some live in some dream world then when reality hits them they get upset. The Johns out there paying overrated prices will slowly slow down too and some of these ladies who need the funds will have no choice but to lower their rate. Get 1 client all day who caved into some BBW paying $300 or 400H but she lost out on perhaps 4 or 5 clients who would have given her $200 or 250H. That's roughly losing out on an additional $600 or more just in 1 day. You ain't "Gucci" you're fucking "Fenty". Your debt situation doesn't mean you should charge more. There's a reason why even a brand like Reebok is now in Walmart than them trying to make money by rising their prices cause people weren't buy as much compared to other brands.
Just say you hate escorts and women in general and be on with your day
 

jalimon

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Unfortunately, most people are financial illiterate and brainwashed by consumerism, buy shit they don’t need. We don’t teach kids in school about the value of money and how to save up & invest.
Unless you are a boy. My 18 year old son's life, beside college, is working just enough to put gas in his car to go see his girlfriend!

We should not generalize.
 

Daddy2021

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As someone who has been doing this for a while (10 years +) hobbying scene in Toronto is probably worse than it has ever been. Prices have become somewhat prohibitive (not that I blame the girls or agencies at all for raising them) and many of the main agencies have girls who have been around quite a while (too long) and are more pros at this point.

Anyone who was around for the golden days of Mirage and Roommates will know what I am talking about - new to industry girls all the time, no shortage of options and at 150/hh.

Even a few years ago HPL was coming up with many new fresh gems all the time but not so much anymore.

Likely to do with OF and SBabying.
I get what you’re saying and although prices have gone up I also understand that some may only want to see one client a day at 4/500 then 2 or 3 at 250. Although prices seem prohibited it also isn’t their job to make sure we can afford them. They must be getting what they ask or the prices wouldn’t be what they are. 🤷🏻
 

dotdotdot69

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Just say you hate escorts and women in general and be on with your day
XD I ain't spending $300 or more on BBWs when I can get the same for a lot less and I have. Other thinner escorts still wanting around $300 for a H sure. The high end escorts wanting way more is generally a pass for me even with the funds I have. I'm smart frugal and can get my money's worth. I've also seen ladies over 50 years old asking $250 or more for a H and I'm not disclosing what was given during the H.
 

Daddy2021

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XD I ain't spending $300 or more on BBWs when I can get the same for a lot less and I have. Other thinner escorts still wanting around $300 for a H sure. The high end escorts wanting way more is generally a pass for me even with the funds I have. I'm smart frugal and can get my money's worth. I've also seen ladies over 50 years old asking $250 or more for a H and I'm not disclosing what was given during the H.
If the rates don’t work for you just move on man. No point in getting all pissed about it though. I’m not saying I agree with the rates for all ladies. I just don’t see them. It was just the overall tone in your comment that I noticed. Why care so much? If you don’t see them then it doesn’t have anything to do with you.
 

lomotil

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The internet allow for transactional sex like never before with very simple to very complicated arrangements.
Gone are the days of the street walker.
The increasingly bleak economic future and rising inflation will attract more ladies into the sex trade.
Canada has a large social safety net so that prostitution is not necessary for the basic needs of food and shelter but is attractive for some to go beyond the basic.

It will not become like Cuba where many civilian women dable in the sex trade a few times a month with tourists to make ends which Cuban society accepts and understands due to extreme economic hardship though.
 

dotdotdot69

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Why shouldn’t they live the best life possible by renting out that extraordinarily valuable patch of real estate between their legs a few hours a week?

They benefit, the pets benefit, and the kids benefit. Of course so do the Johns.

The real tragedy are seeing the ones who could, but don’t, even though they clearly need the money for themselves and their entourage.

Many of my favorites are in NYC and are going to, or went to, very good schools.

I remember being bewildered at all the hot women with nice hand painted signs years ago rallying for forgiveness of student debt In NYC.

I always thought Jesus, honey, if you could just catch on to what my favorite sex workers figured out years ago, you could pay off that student debt, your boyfriend’s student debt, and even have some left over to donate to the political campaign of that Bernie fellow I bet you made a similar sign for.
They lean towards the right with morals lol.
 

jetfuel

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The internet allow for transactional sex like never before with very simple to very complicated arrangements.
Gone are the days of the street walker.
The increasingly bleak economic future and rising inflation will attract more ladies into the sex trade.
Canada has a large social safety net so that prostitution is not necessary for the basic needs of food and shelter but is attractive for some to go beyond the basic.

It will not become like Cuba where many civilian women dable in the sex trade a few times a month with tourists to make ends which Cuban society accepts and understands due to extreme economic hardship though.
What exactly is the safety net you speak of?

Welfare pays next to nothing and no one wants to live in government housing.

It seems refugees and new immigrants get a bigger free ride, living in hotels and kids being able to attend university on a free ride.
 

tastingyou

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What exactly is the safety net you speak of?

Welfare pays next to nothing and no one wants to live in government housing.

It seems refugees and new immigrants get a bigger free ride, living in hotels and kids being able to attend university on a free ride.
In my long history I can instantly recall 3 SP's that lived assisted housing. None are active today.
 

Robert Mugabe

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Their expenses by generally making bad life decisions like overly partying and wasting funds on booze and smokes and spending to show off isn't my problem. But it does bring great looking ladies who wanna live for today and not worry about tmrw to the market. I'll pay for their service based on if I deem their rate to be suitable otherwise I can still shop around. You can't teach someone who's brainwashed to live for today how to save up. At most I got my ex-wife to save a few thousand then she got bored and blew it on liabilities and luckily we had separate bank accounts and she chose not to touch mine after we split up which was extremely wise of her. Those were funds I earned before meeting her along with moving things around to gain more. I'd never ever disclose my full assets to anyone especially a future partner. Generally when people find out what you got their mindset is why have that and not spend it all now.

And I've come across a few BBWs wanting $300H and I laughed especially when one said why should she charge less when there's more of her when I compared her size and rate to someone average in size asking for the same. Bitch forgot when her fat ass goes on a plane she needs to buy 2 tickets cause she eats too much McDs and washes it down with Starbucks. There's been a few like that asking too much and I've got them at times to lower their rates if they wanted to meet up. Or one messaged me back before she was gonna leave the room if I still wanted to come for less but the timing didn't work out. I'm sure some live in some dream world then when reality hits them they get upset. The Johns out there paying overrated prices will slowly slow down too and some of these ladies who need the funds will have no choice but to lower their rate. Get 1 client all day who caved into some BBW paying $300 or 400H but she lost out on perhaps 4 or 5 clients who would have given her $200 or 250H. That's roughly losing out on an additional $600 or more just in 1 day. You ain't "Gucci" you're fucking "Fenty". Your debt situation doesn't mean you should charge more. There's a reason why even a brand like Reebok is now in Walmart than them trying to make money by rising their prices cause people weren't buy as much compared to other brands.
Charging by the pound.
 
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