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squeezer said:
You are focusing in on the Presidential race which I figured you would. LOL

Have a peek at the House and Senate races since we are looking at the mid-terms unless it is 2024 :sneaky: and I am living in 2022.
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Why would we focus on House races? That's where we get extreme margins in both directions.

Rubio is a fairly popular incumbent. Being a Cuban-American certainly doesn't hurt in Florida. He only received 49% in his first Senate victory in 2010. He received 52% in his 2016 reelection.

Then there's Rick Scott's Senate election. Rick Scott was a two-time Governor so name recognition is as good as it gets in a state. He won his Senate seat 50.03% to 49.93% in 2018.

If Rubio wins big November 6, it's because Deming wasn't a strong candidate and/or the Republicans have a good night across the country.

squeeze, are you really trying to out orbit Frankie? No one's going to beat him in rotations.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Your opinion is not informed on Canadian views.
You can complain, and fairly, that we don't know all that's going on down there but then you should you also understand you don't know what's going on here.
Even if you do have a couple of likely right wing, Canadian friends.
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There is a lot more to Canada than just Toronto. I don't even think I have the entire pulse of the United States living in one large American city.

I know for sure from frequent visits to Canada that in general Canadians don't carry the anti-American sentiment that you carry around. It infects all your thinking about the American polity loudly and clearly.
 
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WyattEarp said:
Why would we focus on House races? That's where we get extreme margins in both directions.

Rubio is a fairly popular incumbent. Being a Cuban-American certainly doesn't hurt in Florida. He only received 49% in his first Senate victory in 2010. He received 52% in his 2016 reelection.

Then there's Rick Scott's Senate election. Rick Scott was a two-time Governor so name recognition is as good as it gets in a state. He won his Senate seat 50.03% to 49.93% in 2018.

If Rubio wins big November 6, it's because Deming wasn't a strong candidate and/or the Republicans have a good night across the country.

squeeze, are you really trying to out orbit Frankie? No one's going to beat him in rotations.
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You claimed they were competitive, I showed you the data that says otherwise Presidential elections aside, what don't you understand? I agree Rubio will win it even though he's a liar and has become a kiss-ass to the NRA.
 
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squeezer said:
You claimed they were competitive, I showed you the data that says otherwise Presidential elections aside, what don't you understand? I agree Rubio will win it even though he's a liar and has become a kiss-ass to the NRA.
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squeeze, don't dig in.

The recent Presidential, Governor and Senatorial races have all been competitive in Florida. This year is just not a good year for the Democrats nationwide and in Florida. You have to realize that when the pundits say the Democrats have a good chance of holding the Senate, the Republicans are defending 24 seats and the Democrats only 14 seats. That creates an uphill battle for the Republicans to try to win control of the Senate. So on election night, the Republicans will definitely win a large majority of the Senate seats and likely the House.

I will give you an opportunity to point to a recent Florida Presidential, Governor or Senate race where the Republican ran up a sizeable majority one could say unequivocally that the race was not competitive. I might be a dick for pushing you on this, but you went down this path where you were posting articles but not referencing any facts.
 
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WyattEarp said:
squeeze, don't dig in.

The recent Presidential, Governor and Senatorial races have all been competitive in Florida. This year is just not a good year for the Democrats nationwide and in Florida. You have to realize that when the pundits say the Democrats have a good chance of holding the Senate, the Republicans are defending 24 seats and the Democrats only 14 seats. That creates an uphill battle for the Republicans to try to win control of the Senate. So on election night, the Republicans will definitely win a large majority of the Senate seats and likely the House.

I will give you an opportunity to point to a recent Florida Presidential, Governor or Senate race where the Republican ran up a sizeable majority one could say unequivocally that the race was not competitive. I might be a dick for pushing you on this, but you went down this path where you were posting articles but not referencing any facts.
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Hmmmm, let's try it this way. Please look at this link and show me where Florida is a blue state. It looks as red as a steak before going on the grill.

Red States 2025

worldpopulationreview.com worldpopulationreview.com

Maybe I am color blind so please, show me, enlighten me with your brilliance.

ps...I'm digging and I like it.
 
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Hmmmm, let's try it this way. Please look at this link and show me where Florida is a blue state. It looks as red as a steak before going on the grill.

Red States 2025

worldpopulationreview.com worldpopulationreview.com

Maybe I am color blind so please, show me, enlighten me with your brilliance.

ps...I'm digging and I like it.
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What about "back to the thread" confuse you? The title of this thread is "More good news for Joe". I started it as the tribute to Joe's achievements. I would like to see it stay this way.
 
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squeezer said:
Hmmmm, let's try it this way. Please look at this link and show me where Florida is a blue state. It looks as red as a steak before going on the grill.

Red States 2025

worldpopulationreview.com worldpopulationreview.com

Maybe I am color blind so please, show me, enlighten me with your brilliance.

ps...I'm digging and I like it.
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What happened to the "data" that you noted? Yes, Florida is leaning Republican particularly this year, but it's a bad year for the Dems. This article is talking about Trump's relatively limited success in Florida (basically he marginally won it with 51%), but you in fact told me to ignore the Presidential election cycles.
 
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jcpro said:
What about "back to the thread" confuse you? The title of this thread is "More good news for Joe". I started it as the tribute to Joe's achievements. I would like to see it stay this way.
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I think this is in line with the title.

It seems like fivethirtyeight keeps moving the odds every day towards the Republicans. The House will be lost if there aren't any unexpected events. Control of the Senate is getting more and more in reach for the Republicans.

What is interesting the Dems only have to defend 14 seats out of 35 in play this November. And yet, the probability is that the Republicans will win the Senate or it will be a 50/50 split. So one might say, great VP Harris will break ties. But hold on a minute, Manchin and Sinema are not two automatic votes for progressive legislation. Also, we know Senators stray from the party line when the party has suffered a recent electoral setback. Call it a course correction for these Democrat Senators especially those on the ballot in 2024.
 
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WyattEarp said:
I think you are forcing the point about red strong hold. DeSantis won the 2018 Florida Governor's race 49.6% to Gillum 49.2% (definitely not a moderate). He's solidified his popularity through his first term.

There's an odd and bizarre strategy both parties seem to be employing in competitive states. The state candidates start to sound a lot like the national party. In the recent past, Florida Democrats won elections and were considered moderates on Capital Hill. Now you might think current Gubernatorial candidate Charlie Christ is a moderate, but he's known for being an opportunist who has recently has had to acquiesce to the Left.

By the way, most of the media thinks Democrats always win the debate. If you hear the things you want to here from a candidate, you're going to be influenced by your views. Donald Trump did well in some debates and did poorly in others. He never sounded like the rogue that he was. Even Biden performed fairly well in the 2020 debates even if he sounded too scripted to me.

Rubio didn't really have to "win" the debate. He just needed to do an adequate job. I presume he didn't have a lapse where he repeated himself five times. Rubio is not a dynamic debater. I will actually watch the DeSantis-Crist debate. I think DeSantis will be a good debater and he's clearly a national candidate. Crist is no slouch either.
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I don't watch the debates outside my state. It seems like social media is flooded with all these liberal Monday morning quarterbacks declaring a debate victory for the Democrat.

The problem is these debate victories aren't showing up in the poll trends. Is it possible that a lot of these social media warriors are just hype artists. People wouldn't do that, would they?

Anyhoo, you probably can tell I am not of fan of pundits left or right telling me what happened. If you like being told what happened, that's cool but Rubio is going to cruise to victory in a fairly competitive state.
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WyattEarp said:
What happened to the "data" that you noted? Yes, Florida is leaning Republican particularly this year, but it's a bad year for the Dems. This article is talking about Trump's relatively limited success in Florida (basically he marginally won it with 51%), but you in fact told me to ignore the Presidential election cycles.
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These are your replies, where is the presidential election discussed? The link I provided included Presidential data but also contained other races which lead back to our conversation but now you decide to pull a JC move and deflect to Presidential.

My point is, Florida is a red state and Republican incumbents have an upper hand.

As JC says, STAY on topic!!!

jcpro said:
What about "back to the thread" confuse you? The title of this thread is "More good news for Joe". I started it as the tribute to Joe's achievements. I would like to see it stay this way.
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I plead the 5th but please ask Wyatt why he cannot stay on topic.
 
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jcpro said:
What about "back to the thread" confuse you? The title of this thread is "More good news for Joe". I started it as the tribute to Joe's achievements. I would like to see it stay this way.
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I feel bad, so I'm going to put this one back on the tracks for you. Here is something VERY GOOD FOR JOE!!!

Trump once again loses and is proven to be a dumbass, over and over and over

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Trump claim of ‘Crime of Century’ fizzles in 3-year probe

Former President Donald Trump once predicted that a special prosecutor appointed during his administration would uncover “the crime of the century” — a conspiracy to sink his 2016 campaign.
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Two words: Let's go Brandon! ROTFLMFAO!!

 
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WyattEarp said:
There is a lot more to Canada than just Toronto. I don't even think I have the entire pulse of the United States living in one large American city.

I know for sure from frequent visits to Canada that in general Canadians don't carry the anti-American sentiment that you carry around. It infects all your thinking about the American polity loudly and clearly.
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Don't confuse an anti-rump view with being anti-American.
Just as you shouldn't assume I'm only around Toronto.
 
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