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benstt

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They did skip steps however......There was no peer reviewed human trials.

What type of mindset does it take to acknowledge that?
Wilful ignorance? Inability to keep up with the news? Relying only on social media for serious information?

For example.


Peer-reviewed data for Pfizer Inc.’s BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccine candidate was published today by the New England Journal of Medicine, confirming its safety and efficacy.
The study’s authors concluded that a two-dose regimen of BNT162b2 conferred 95% protection against COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age or older, with safety over a median of two months similar to that of other viral vaccines.
In an editorial accompanying the draft abstract, a team of NEJM editors called the data “impressive,” with a “remarkable level of safety and efficacy,” writing, “What appears to be a dramatic success for vaccination holds the promise of saving uncounted lives and giving us a pathway out of what has been a global disaster.”
There is this discussion too on this meme that peer reviews were not done.
 

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They did skip steps however......There was no peer reviewed human trials.

What type of mindset does it take to acknowledge that?
Report based on peer review of human trials by Phizer.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577
Article, strangely titled
First peer-reviewed results of phase 3 human trials of Oxford coronavirus vaccine demonstrate efficacy
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-12-0...ase-3-human-trials-oxford-coronavirus-vaccine
Report based on peer review of human trials by Moderna.
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/new...wed-report-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-publishes

Not sure, what type of mindset does it take to deny the above?
 

lenny2

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Myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. As of June 14, 2021, VAERS has received 511 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 and younger who received COVID-19 vaccine. Most cases have been reported after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna), particularly in male adolescents and young adults. Through follow-up, including medical record reviews, CDC and FDA have confirmed 323 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis. CDC and its partners are investigating these reports to assess whether there is a relationship to COVID-19 vaccination. Learn more about COVID-19

Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 310 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through June 14, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 5,343 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.

This small number of vaccine deaths and injuries are surely starting to add up.

Remember how scared you people were when there was only 3 people in the GTA that had covid last february??? Why is it that the number of deaths and injuries being reported this early on is not frightening the same people?
The vaccine deaths and injuries stats are still young and yet thats ok??? BUt when the same number of people had covid, the word was ending????



"How many people have died from the vaccine in the U.S.? - COVID-101

Over 309 million vaccine doses were given in the US as of June 14, 2021. There are three cases where the vaccine likely contributed to patient deaths.
covid-101.org




Between December 2020 and June 7th, 2021, VAERS received 5,208 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who got a vaccine. Doctors and safety monitors carefully review the details of each case to see if it might be linked to the vaccine. There are three deaths that appear to be linked to blot clots that occurred after people got the J&J vaccine. Since we now know how to correctly treat people who develop these blot clots, future deaths related to this very rare side effect can be prevented. By way of comparison, getting COVID-19 while unvaccinated poses a grave risk; as of June 14, 2021 more than 599,000 deaths have been attributed to the virus in the US alone.
3 compared to almost 600k in death from COVID. Now those are some numbers!"
 
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lenny2

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2.5 billion vaccinated, a couple of deaths.

0 vaccinated, 4 MILLION DEAD.

But yeah... stupid human sheeple get jab... me smart... me no get jabby wabby 🥴

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Get vaccinated - Trump

I did - Trump

Vaccines will save millions of lives - Trump

Get the Trump vaccine - Trump

Vaccines ending the pandemic

lol
 

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They did skip steps however......There was no peer reviewed human trials.

What type of mindset does it take to acknowledge that?
Report based on peer review of human trials by Phizer.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577
Article, strangely titled
First peer-reviewed results of phase 3 human trials of Oxford coronavirus vaccine demonstrate efficacy
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-12-0...ase-3-human-trials-oxford-coronavirus-vaccine
Report based on peer review of human trials by Moderna.
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/new...wed-report-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-publishes

Not sure, what type of mindset does it take to deny the above?
BUMP
 

jalimon

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Old lives matter? :)


Hey but watch the ageism so many covidiots think old people deserve to live forever
We had a year of pseudo lockdowns even
Old live does matter. But sometimes you need to put them in their own category. You know if you get Prostate cancer passed 80 they do not treat you? They judge the treatment will diminish your quality of life and take into account you may leave just as long with the disease until you eventually die.

Being 90 is being 90. My mother still tries to call me each week using the tv remote. Other then that she's fine :LOL:
 
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@TeeJay.

I replied to you and your questions. Can you reply to mine please.


So why am I a sheep?

and again.....

Couple more questions;

1.Where was is stated that the vaccine is 100% effective agains the virus?
2. Where was it stated that the vaccine is 100% effective against the delta varient which she died of?
3. How do we know that if she caught COVID before being vaccinated that she would have survived?
Because I have seen the death that COVID has caused, I have a family member I care for who is elderly with health risks, I feel it is better for me so I can get back to somewhat of a regular life, to be able to feel safer having sex again, because I know that the tech behind the vaccines have been worked on since 1990 so I don’t feel it is as experimental as others, because I believe my doctor of over 25 years, because I want to be protected from illness, just like with the flu......

I have more reasons, but I think that is enough. So why am I a sheep?

and again.....

Couple more questions;

1.Where was is stated that the vaccine is 100% effective agains the virus?
2. Where was it stated that the vaccine is 100% effective against the delta varient which she died of?
3. How do we know that if she caught COVID before being vaccinated that she would have survived?

Please answer them directly.
 

smallhatchet

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@TeeJay.

I replied to you and your questions. Can you reply to mine please.


So why am I a sheep?

and again.....

Couple more questions;

1.Where was is stated that the vaccine is 100% effective agains the virus?
2. Where was it stated that the vaccine is 100% effective against the delta varient which she died of?
3. How do we know that if she caught COVID before being vaccinated that she would have survived?
Why dont you ask yourself if the info they're telling people is accurate?

We are at their mercy at the moment to believe whatever the fuck they tell us.

They could tell you they person died of eating a big mac and you'd believe it!! LMAO
 

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"How many people have died from the vaccine in the U.S.? - COVID-101

Over 309 million vaccine doses were given in the US as of June 14, 2021. There are three cases where the vaccine likely contributed to patient deaths.
covid-101.org




Between December 2020 and June 7th, 2021, VAERS received 5,208 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who got a vaccine. Doctors and safety monitors carefully review the details of each case to see if it might be linked to the vaccine. There are three deaths that appear to be linked to blot clots that occurred after people got the J&J vaccine. Since we now know how to correctly treat people who develop these blot clots, future deaths related to this very rare side effect can be prevented. By way of comparison, getting COVID-19 while unvaccinated poses a grave risk; as of June 14, 2021 more than 599,000 deaths have been attributed to the virus in the US alone.
3 compared to almost 600k in death from COVID. Now those are some numbers!"
When will you learn that you will NEVER know the real numbers?

How do these pics make you feel??

Practice social distancing for the camera...............
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When cameras turn off, touch anyone you like and gather closely.

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When will you wake up?
 

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This is the question I asked when everyone lined up for the jab for a drug that has been "Tested" in less than a year.

How can you have any possible info on drug safety when there are NO long term studies done?
Just so you understand what happened here, Trump's Operation Warp Speed was an actually effective policy he had. What it did was allow the streamlining of clinical testing. Usually you do phase 1-3 (I think) trials one after the other. For this vaccine, they did this with much more overlap. Plus, the mRNA vaccines have been tested for a while, so they had a good idea on how it would interact with most people.

As for this BS about a few people getting covid after being vaccinated, the reality is that no vaccine is 100% effective. People still get rubella or the mumps, but it is extremely rare. The major difference here is that since most people are already vaccinated to those diseases, they don't spread.

Here is a good video by Penn & Teller about the benefits of vaccinations. The focus in against those anti-vaxxers over concerns of autism. But, I think it sort of works here:
 

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Why dont you ask yourself if the info they're telling people is accurate?

We are at their mercy at the moment to believe whatever the fuck they tell us.

They could tell you they person died of eating a big mac and you'd believe it!! LMAO
Yes - I believe the info I got from my doctor is correct.

Does mean I believe everything the government says. They are two different things.
 

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Just so you understand what happened here, Trump's Operation Warp Speed was an actually effective policy he had. What it did was allow the streamlining of clinical testing. Usually you do phase 1-3 (I think) trials one after the other. For this vaccine, they did this with much more overlap. Plus, the mRNA vaccines have been tested for a while, so they had a good idea on how it would interact with most people.

As for this BS about a few people getting covid after being vaccinated, the reality is that no vaccine is 100% effective. People still get rubella or the mumps, but it is extremely rare. The major difference here is that since most people are already vaccinated to those diseases, they don't spread.

Here is a good video by Penn & Teller about the benefits of vaccinations. The focus in against those anti-vaxxers over concerns of autism. But, I think it sort of works here:
Instead of using a couple of magicians which covid has been the hold time....an illusion, why dont you read something by an expert:

Hopefully this will educate you?
 

smallhatchet

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Yes - I believe the info I got from my doctor is correct.

Does mean I believe everything the government says. They are two different things.
How does a doctor get paid?

Who pays doctors?

If you dont know how doctors get paid, ask a teacher where their pay checks come from?

If you still arent sure, doctors get paid by the govt. Thats why they swipe your OHIP card.

Scientists get funded by govt. as well.

Would you bite the hand that feeds you?
 

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How does a doctor get paid?

Who pays doctors?

If you dont know how doctors get paid, ask a teacher where their pay checks come from?

If you still arent sure, doctors get paid by the govt. Thats why they swipe your OHIP card.

Scientists get funded by govt. as well.

Would you bite the hand that feeds you?
Sorry, not going to work. My doctor has been my doctor for over 25 years. I trust him.

You don’t know my relationship with my doctor. You don’t know my medical history and the work he has done to keep me here and alive.

You are spewing your hatred for the government and projecting it on me.

I’m not telling you to get the shot. I am respecting your choices, you should give the same respect in return.
 

smallhatchet

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Sorry, not going to work. My doctor has been my doctor for over 25 years. I trust him.

You don’t know my relationship with my doctor. You don’t know my medical history and the work he has done to keep me here and alive.

You are spewing your hatred for the government and projecting it on me.

I’m not telling you to get the shot. I am respecting your choices, you should give the same respect in return.
Im all for you having a choice but why is it that those who wish to not vaccinate are the ones that seemingly are the ones that dont get a choice?

Why is it taboo to society and frowned upon for those who wish to not vaccinate?

Would it be just as taboo to have a woman not abort a baby if doctors, science and govt told her she should in order to please the masses?

If women have choices that they can make regarding their bodies, shouldnt all humans have the same right to say what goes into them????
 

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Im all for you having a choice but why is it that those who wish to not vaccinate are the ones that seemingly are the ones that dont get a choice?

Why is it taboo to society and frowned upon for those who wish to not vaccinate?

Would it be just as taboo to have a woman not abort a baby if doctors, science and govt told her she should in order to please the masses?

If women have choices that they can make regarding their bodies, shouldnt all humans have the same right to say what goes into them????
Show me where I have said anything you just wrote. One post where I say you have no choice yourself.

You are calling me a sheep for getting my shot. I’m not calling you anything for choosing not to.

So again, why am I a sheep?
 

smallhatchet

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Show me where I have said anything you just wrote. One post where I say you have no choice yourself.

You are calling me a sheep for getting my shot. I’m not calling you anything for choosing not to.

So again, why am I a sheep?
Im actually trying to find the post in this thread where I called YOU a "Sheep"?
 

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Im actually trying to find the post in this thread where I called YOU a "Sheep"?
@TeeJay did. For getting the shot.

I quoted him asking why and you quoted me with an attempt to answer for him. Basically saying the same thing. Anyone who got the shot is a sheep.

So you injected yourself into it. Want to bow out now? Or explain why I’m a sheep for getting the shot.
 
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