Mom makes daughter stand on street corner

[WhaWhaWha]

..you are holding on too tight. The woman isn't your ex-wife, and apparently her (presumed) husband and the kids father (refer to "parentS" comment again for reference) was ok with it enough to let it happen. I dont' think it is analogous to "cleansing the city" in any shape, form, or manner...

Yes, it is. If you take your point to the extreme that its OK to use whatever means are at your disposal to achieve the desired outcome. This is a perfect analogy for facism.

Twisting the kid's arm behind her back and putting her on display, so eventually she will withdraw from her own self. Holding her hostage until she says whatever the adults want to hear from her for fear of further extreme reprisal. These are not always a happy ending for all parties.

Having the best intentions is not a carte blanche for using any means at your disposal. Changing a teenage kids habits can be challenging and frustrating and a lot of work. This mom took a short cut right through her kids spirit and confidence. I hope she enjoys the victory and the applause she gets from her fan base of other successful breeders who self-proclaim themselves to be parents.

What is this mom going to do when the kid fails again? Put her in leather gear and parade her in the red light disctrict? Send her to Jenny Jones boot camp? Put her kids picture in the paper with the caption "don't let this happen to you"? Not too many options for a demonstrative bully of a zealot disguised as a parent. She may have to do actual parenting for a change.

That mother can be damned grateful she isnt my ex wife. In fact, I've had CAS apply for a protection application for my children for much less. My story is a common one, but instead of backing down and making excuses I did the work and saw my kids through their worst years. They are older now, defiant enough to question authority when they need to and respectful enough to follow it when they don't. Neither of them has ever been in serious trouble or disappointed me with their efforts in school.

And not to say that it would happen but if I ran out of ideas for parenting my kid, I think the first thing I might resort to is a parenting skills class, or a support group. Perhaps even psychological analysis to get to the root of a problem. The last thing I would do is stand her on a street corner and disgrace her and call it a day.

I'm sure deep down, where nobody else can see it, this mom has a caring and nurturing side to her. Too bad she is getting positive attention from people easily swayed by this stupid tactic.

Myself, I mind my own business with friends who are irresponsible with money (even mine). I ignore the occasional fit of bad manners among other adults. People are human and make mistakes and its human to be tolerant. But I could never abide bad parenting.

 

[danmand]

Yes, it is. If you take your point to the extreme that its OK to use whatever means are at your disposal to achieve the desired outcome. This is a perfect analogy for facism.

Twisting the kid's arm behind her back and putting her on display, so eventually she will withdraw from her own self. Holding her hostage until she says whatever the adults want to hear from her for fear of further extreme reprisal. These are not always a happy ending for all parties.

Having the best intentions is not a carte blanche for using any means at your disposal. Changing a teenage kids habits can be challenging and frustrating and a lot of work. This mom took a short cut right through her kids spirit and confidence. I hope she enjoys the victory and the applause she gets from her fan base of other successful breeders who self-proclaim themselves to be parents.

What is this mom going to do when the kid fails again? Put her in leather gear and parade her in the red light disctrict? Send her to Jenny Jones boot camp? Put her kids picture in the paper with the caption "don't let this happen to you"? Not too many options for a demonstrative bully of a zealot disguised as a parent. She may have to do actual parenting for a change.

That mother can be damned grateful she isnt my ex wife. In fact, I've had CAS apply for a protection application for my children for much less. My story is a common one, but instead of backing down and making excuses I did the work and saw my kids through their worst years. They are older now, defiant enough to question authority when they need to and respectful enough to follow it when they don't. Neither of them has ever been in serious trouble or disappointed me with their efforts in school.

And not to say that it would happen but if I ran out of ideas for parenting my kid, I think the first thing I might resort to is a parenting skills class, or a support group. Perhaps even psychological analysis to get to the root of a problem. The last thing I would do is stand her on a street corner and disgrace her and call it a day.

I'm sure deep down, where nobody else can see it, this mom has a caring and nurturing side to her. Too bad she is getting positive attention from people easily swayed by this stupid tactic.

Myself, I mind my own business with friends who are irresponsible with money (even mine). I ignore the occasional fit of bad manners among other adults. People are human and make mistakes and its human to be tolerant. But I could never abide bad parenting.

Your children are lucky to have a truly caring and loving father.

 

[RTRD]

I'll say it again...

Yes, it is. If you take your point to the extreme that its OK to use whatever means are at your disposal to achieve the desired outcome. This is a perfect analogy for facism.

Twisting the kid's arm behind her back and putting her on display, so eventually she will withdraw from her own self. Holding her hostage until she says whatever the adults want to hear from her for fear of further extreme reprisal. These are not always a happy ending for all parties.

Having the best intentions is not a carte blanche for using any means at your disposal. Changing a teenage kids habits can be challenging and frustrating and a lot of work. This mom took a short cut right through her kids spirit and confidence. I hope she enjoys the victory and the applause she gets from her fan base of other successful breeders who self-proclaim themselves to be parents.

What is this mom going to do when the kid fails again? Put her in leather gear and parade her in the red light disctrict? Send her to Jenny Jones boot camp? Put her kids picture in the paper with the caption "don't let this happen to you"? Not too many options for a demonstrative bully of a zealot disguised as a parent. She may have to do actual parenting for a change.

That mother can be damned grateful she isnt my ex wife. In fact, I've had CAS apply for a protection application for my children for much less. My story is a common one, but instead of backing down and making excuses I did the work and saw my kids through their worst years. They are older now, defiant enough to question authority when they need to and respectful enough to follow it when they don't. Neither of them has ever been in serious trouble or disappointed me with their efforts in school.

And not to say that it would happen but if I ran out of ideas for parenting my kid, I think the first thing I might resort to is a parenting skills class, or a support group. Perhaps even psychological analysis to get to the root of a problem. The last thing I would do is stand her on a street corner and disgrace her and call it a day.

I'm sure deep down, where nobody else can see it, this mom has a caring and nurturing side to her. Too bad she is getting positive attention from people easily swayed by this stupid tactic.

Myself, I mind my own business with friends who are irresponsible with money (even mine). I ignore the occasional fit of bad manners among other adults. People are human and make mistakes and its human to be tolerant. But I could never abide bad parenting.

..you are holding on too tight.

"If you take your point to the extreme that its OK to use whatever means are at your disposal to achieve the desired outcome."

And you took it to the extreme.

My point is that *I* am a better judge than *YOU* in regards what manner of discipline I will use for my child. Now, as a community, we have standards - they are called "laws". And as I understood it, this woman broke none.

So we can debate all day and night as to if what she did was wrong or right (in fact, we have). But my point remains that NEITHER of us is a better judge than that woman is.

Am I saying every person is a fit parent? No. But I am saying that given a large enough statistical sample of the population, the percentage of nut jobs who are parents should pretty much work out to be the same percentage of people who are not parents. So...then...all things being (relatively) equal...I rather leave the judgments about parenting kids to the parents of said kids.

Frankly, the more you post the more you are striking ME as an extremist who might be harming his kids by trying to punish his ex-wife via any means at his disposal...and who now has decided being a "hero" for his kids is the chosen battle ground. But you know what? Fuck me - because what the fuck do I know about your situation and family? They are YOUR kids, and short of you actually doing them physical harm or blatant psychological torture, it is your business. I am prepared to trust that you are acting it what you feel is their best interest, and that you have broken no laws.

Now if you aren't willing to grant this woman the same benefit of the doubt I'm prepared to grant you, so be it. That is your right. But I'm glad she isn't your ex-wife as well...I think that little girl is better off where she is...

 

[frankcastle]

Dear D,

Thank your for your eloquent comments regarding my post. Unfortunately, I had more pressing matters to attend to thus I was unable to respond sooner.

I must apologize for responding in such a casual manner. I was not aware that terb required a certain level of formality. I am now aware of your expectantions and hope that my future posts can meet your approval.

I hope you will consider that many of us don't speak the same way at work and at home.

As for your concern about the quality of education that my students recieve I think the teachers (actually principals) who come into my class to evaluate me, the teachers that I share my personally made resources with, the parents of my students (based on phone calls and interviews) and the students (based on comments on ratemyteacher.com) paint a different picture than the one that you have suggested based on a casual off the cuff post that I made.

Is it so hard to understand that the way I communicate may vary depending on the situation? Obviously, I'm different here, at the bar, spending time with the guys than I am at work. Behind closed doors I'm sure we've all heard professionals either talking informally or crudely but that doesn't neccessarily reflect on the quality of their work (so long as they can separate the two). In the case of typing/speaking casually that's the way that people tend to communicate on the board, so when in Rome......

It is my hope that you have taught your children not to jump to such rash conclusions based on one comment taken out of context. This of course is a joke I don't know you or care about you so what your success as a parent is of little or no interest to me.

Of course you won't hear me use words like "fav" in class but we aren't in a classroom and most of us here are not children. Also, I unsuccessfully tried to write a brief post.... my original was very long so I trimmed it down to the main points/comments. However, this resulted in a disjointed message.

As for why I didn't take the extra time to write a post with better grammer, structure and vocabulary? Well I was responding to the post after getting home from school at 11 pm because I stay after school to coach and then stay later to finish my marking. I would also like to point out that the marking I'm doing is of the tests and quizzes that I had given this week. My belief is that things should be marked as soon as possible so that the kids and correct and learn from their mistakes and the comments that I make. These are things that I don't have to do but choose to do because I think they are important (providing kids with athletic outlets and quick feedback to their work). I want to stress that I am not suggesting that my work keeps me in the office so late every night but when a number of evaluations fall on the same day it creates a tremendous amount of work. Also, I'm not asking for sympathy I chose this career and I'm happy with it. Any late nights are just part of the job.

Anyways, I'd appreciate it if you don't make negative comments regarding my compentancy without any real evidence. I wouldn't try and evaluate you and your parenting skills based on you being on terb or the topics of your discussion.

I'd also like to point out, please don't wear the fact that you are a parent like a badge. Even a 13 year old boy can potentially be a father. If you care to share how wonderful your kids are doing that would be much more impressive than the fact that you concieved a child successfully.

 

[RTRD]

This...

Dear D,

Thank your for your eloquent comments regarding my post. Unfortunately, I had more pressing matters to attend to thus I was unable to respond sooner.

I must apologize for responding in such a casual manner. I was not aware that terb required a certain level of formality. I am now aware of your expectantions and hope that my future posts can meet your approval.

I hope you will consider that many of us don't speak the same way at work and at home.

As for your concern about the quality of education that my students recieve I think the teachers (actually principals) who come into my class to evaluate me, the teachers that I share my personally made resources with, the parents of my students (based on phone calls and interviews) and the students (based on comments on ratemyteacher.com) paint a different picture than the one that you have suggested based on a casual off the cuff post that I made.

Is it so hard to understand that the way I communicate may vary depending on the situation? Obviously, I'm different here, at the bar, spending time with the guys than I am at work. Behind closed doors I'm sure we've all heard professionals either talking informally or crudely but that doesn't neccessarily reflect on the quality of their work (so long as they can separate the two). In the case of typing/speaking casually that's the way that people tend to communicate on the board, so when in Rome......

It is my hope that you have taught your children not to jump to such rash conclusions based on one comment taken out of context. This of course is a joke I don't know you or care about you so what your success as a parent is of little or no interest to me.

Of course you won't hear me use words like "fav" in class but we aren't in a classroom and most of us here are not children. Also, I unsuccessfully tried to write a brief post.... my original was very long so I trimmed it down to the main points/comments. However, this resulted in a disjointed message.

As for why I didn't take the extra time to write a post with better grammer, structure and vocabulary? Well I was responding to the post after getting home from school at 11 pm because I stay after school to coach and then stay later to finish my marking. I would also like to point out that the marking I'm doing is of the tests and quizzes that I had given this week. My belief is that things should be marked as soon as possible so that the kids and correct and learn from their mistakes and the comments that I make. These are things that I don't have to do but choose to do because I think they are important (providing kids with athletic outlets and quick feedback to their work). I want to stress that I am not suggesting that my work keeps me in the office so late every night but when a number of evaluations fall on the same day it creates a tremendous amount of work. Also, I'm not asking for sympathy I chose this career and I'm happy with it. Any late nights are just part of the job.

Anyways, I'd appreciate it if you don't make negative comments regarding my compentancy without any real evidence. I wouldn't try and evaluate you and your parenting skills based on you being on terb or the topics of your discussion.

I'd also like to point out, please don't wear the fact that you are a parent like a badge. Even a 13 year old boy can potentially be a father. If you care to share how wonderful your kids are doing that would be much more impressive than the fact that you concieved a child successfully.

was funny as hell.

But you misspelled "conceived". I mean, if you are gonna go anal on somebody to prove a point, ya gotta do it right dude....

 

[rockyy]

I give the mom kudos for her creativity. Obviously she cares a great deal for her kid. She should also be credited for standing alongside her.

Damn right it's humiliating. But it's a lot better than growing up a loser for life. That would be really humiliating.

I think the mom should stand on the corner with a sign saying, ´Will give parenting advice for food.´

Might get her off welfare and out of that trailer park...

 

[booboobear]

You know your " reading comprehension " comments are really silly you need to know this.
It is really you that fails to ever understand the point being made . Like I said I finally understand the kind oof person you are so trying to make a point with you is well , pointless . The issue here is that you discount or to use your words don't value any persons opinion who is not a parent correct or not . I think I comprehend what you said above unless you want to try and weasel out of what you say above. This to me indicates an ignorant man who admits other people could be correct but thinks only his opinion counts because he fertilized an egg.

 

[corena]

You must have gotten your certification from the old english public school system. Thank heavens my children are out of school.

How many kids got shot at school when the "old english public school system" was at it's peak?

How many kids would tell their teacher to fuck off as soon as look at them when the "old english public school system" was at it's peak?

How many parents feared that their children would not come home at the end of the day because some holier than thou asshole who's afraid to hurt thier child's feeling's kid decides todays the day to see what it feels like to stab someone picks your child when the "old english public school system" was at it's peak?


Dare I say, NONE??

Respect needs to be brought back to our youth. I know that in the golden days of yore they went too far, I was on the receiving end of pencils under my knees and rulers across my knuckles...but now...we've gone WAY too far the other way.

 

[langeweile]

Respect needs to be brought back to our youth. I know that in the golden days of yore they went too far, I was on the receiving end of pencils under my knees and rulers across my knuckles...but now...we've gone WAY too far the other way.

Yup....

 

[rockyy]

Yup....

nah.. you just need to turn off the tv.
and I bet none of you so called disciplinarians are very good at that.

 

[langeweile]

nah.. you just need to turn off the tv.
and I bet none of you so called disciplinarians are very good at that.

turn off the TV??? you gotta do better than that...

 

[ruck]

This to me indicates an ignorant man who admits other people could be correct but thinks only his opinion counts because he fertilized an egg.

Another failed attempt at using the word "ignorant" correctly.
I started a thread a ways back about the improper use of the word and how much it irks me.

I'm not putting down your response, but the misuse of the word "ignorant" will always prompt a response from me.

Now booboobear, keep on keeping on.
Cheers.

 

[rockyy]

turn off the TV??? you gotta do better than that...

.. yeah you're right. Turning the calendar back to 1910 is the only way to solve society's ill. But let's keep televison, ok?

 

[Pedro Sanchez]

Why doesn't the mother go all the way with the humiliation thing? Instead of a sign "Will work for food". Why not have her wear a sign "Blow Jobs $5". To all those guys who think the mother is right, tell me - Would that be acceptable humiliation?

...and you would be the first in line with your $5.

You're a fucking moron!

 

[RTRD]

Yawn...

You know your " reading comprehension " comments are really silly you need to know this.
It is really you that fails to ever understand the point being made . Like I said I finally understand the kind oof person you are so trying to make a point with you is well , pointless . The issue here is that you discount or to use your words don't value any persons opinion who is not a parent correct or not . I think I comprehend what you said above unless you want to try and weasel out of what you say above. This to me indicates an ignorant man who admits other people could be correct but thinks only his opinion counts because he fertilized an egg.

...you masturbate while you do this, don't you? That is why you enjoy it so much, right? because it certainly isn't because you make any sense...

 

[booboobear]

...you masturbate while you do this, don't you? That is why you enjoy it so much, right? because it certainly isn't because you make any sense...

I think you are totally losing it " I masturbate while doing this " , you are stooping low.
Anyway the point is you are arrogant to not value any persons opinion that is not married even when you admit they could be right .
Can you understand that , does it make sense why I say you are arrogant .

 

[RTRD]

(Snicker)

I think you are totally losing it " I masturbate while doing this " , you are stooping low.
Anyway the point is you are arrogant to not value any persons opinion that is not married even when you admit they could be right .
Can you understand that , does it make sense why I say you are arrogant .

You know, I really do lose sleep worrying that your opinion of me might be less than ideal.

*hump, hump, hump, whine, hump hump*

Sit, Bubu, Sit!

It's OK little bear! You're just as good as anybody else, I promise!

..and with that I am going to go check on my son, then go lay next to my wife in our bed. Hell, I might just give her a gentle jab in the ribs to see if she wants to have a quickie, just because I know that is something you can't do.

Perhaps if you were to let go of your obsession about what *I* think, feel, assume and believe, you might find time for a life of your own.

Until, then, good luck barginning with strippers and pleading with store clerks...

...loser....geez

 

[frankcastle]

was funny as hell.

But you misspelled "conceived". I mean, if you are gonna go anal on somebody to prove a point, ya gotta do it right dude....

Oh gimme a break if you go back and read my statements I never claimed to be perfect. Anyways, I had no interested in going anal on any guy thank you very much. Now if you have any recommendations of good SPs.....LOL.

I was just annoyed with the stupid comments that they guy made so I felt like making fun of him.

 

[RTRD]

I know...

Oh gimme a break if you go back and read my statements I never claimed to be perfect. Anyways, I had no interested in going anal on any guy thank you very much. Now if you have any recommendations of good SPs.....LOL.

I was just annoyed with the stupid comments that they guy made so I felt like making fun of him.

..and you were dead on. I was just poking fun at you. I mean you obviously took time and effort to show him he didn't know what the fuck he was talking about in regards to your competence and ability to wield the language...but then you misspell a word!!

I just thought it was funny...you know...being a teacher and all (painful memories of red marks all over my papers made me do it....LOL)

 

[booboobear]

You know, I really do lose sleep worrying that your opinion of me might be less than ideal.

*hump, hump, hump, whine, hump hump*

Sit, Bubu, Sit!

It's OK little bear! You're just as good as anybody else, I promise!

..and with that I am going to go check on my son, then go lay next to my wife in our bed. Hell, I might just give her a gentle jab in the ribs to see if she wants to have a quickie, just because I know that is something you can't do.

...loser....geez

Gee you must be related to VVF pretty sad when you have to quote her . And yes I know I can't give your wife a gentle jab in the ribs. So pathetic to think that makes you better than me . The funny thing is you think you have such a great life , married a kid and you see strippers who think " you are
such a gentleman " good joke . Adios no point trying to explain anything to you .