It's a wake up call for men, we have to learn how to court not press women.
Bill Maher fucked up badly, can you spot where?
Bill Maher fucked up badly, can you spot where?
#metoo Mentality Hitting Closer to Home
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Actually it's a wakeup call to learn to consider women as simply coworkers versus someone who can be courted, let alone pressed. I don't think I'm alone in saying I've never dealt with any type of workplace issue. Definitely a few lookers, some single, some not, but I simply interacted with them as I would a male coworker and mostly stuck to business. Not once have I ever felt it get awkward nor have I ever sweated the possibility of HR telling me I'm in trouble.
What's interesting is I know a guy who goes for a number of parties with clients, especially around the holidays. He says he hugs a lot of people, men and women, and he's never had any issue. Why? They know he's a hugger, he doesn't do it only with the females, and I'm sure it's just a hug and nothing more. Meanwhile some guys here are sweating the idea of ever interacting with a woman for fear of a potential harassment claim.
Being known as a "hugger" is now dangerous and redundant these days and will not exonerated ANY males if a female makes a complaint. It is wise to avoid any physical contact with any staff at any time.
The reason I mentioned it is precisely what you say - it is dangerous in theory. For sure, some people could come forward and complain. Yet they don't - why is that? Is it because he doesn't force it on anyone? Is it because they see it for what it is - a sign of affection/respect versus a sexual embrace? Because he hugs both men and women? Is it because he is a contractor therefore the people don't work for him so there's no pressure? I'm guessing he asks, is totally fine if someone says no thanks, and again, if there's never more to it than just a hug, very few women if any will come forward and claim harassment. It would be a dick move (sorry but that's the only way to describe it) and I don't feel too many women are going to come forward and claim something big out of something so small. Again, a few crazies out there for sure but no matter what, if you're going to get accused by them, it'll happen no matter what you do.
Fearmongering 1101, I used to hug a number of my employees. As a motivational tool it was more effective than praise. Of course there were some who weren't into it, which was not a problem. I certainly wasn't going to press the issue.
It seems that some on this board have issues with women and blacks, never had a problem with either.
Or perhaps they all know he's a lecherous old man who is known among the women throughout the organization as having a history of leering/hitting on women and making them feel uncomfortable?
I found it quite enlightening to hear women talking about a man who I had no idea was hitting on them and making them feel uncomfortable. But they all knew. The women warned each other of him. Same thing went on with Weinstein. How many men said "he's an all around good guy" and are eating shit for it now.
I was with you until I read this part, which stretches the realm of credibility to say all the other female execs are equally brainwashed and equally stupid about relying on an anonymous website to make promotion decisions. Men can be quite dense when it comes to what constitutes unwanted attention towards females. I find this statement revealing and makes me suspicious there is more to the story than is being let on (or perhaps the OP is unaware of).
p.s., saying a man is "an all around good guy" is the equivalent of bending over and inviting every woman and politically correct SJW to kick you in the balls. Totally out of place in the modern workplace and the worst kind of justification that's been used to promote old white men over everyone else for the better part of a century.
That all being said, Yes, men are under attack from every angle today. Particular older, white men. Some will say it's about time but it's indisputable that there's a witch hunt going on in today's society. Beware.
The shame in this whole story is that the female execs are more part of the problem than part of the solution. There seems to be a massive failure to act, period.
If the guy is a serial harasser and the execs, especially the female execs, know about it, isn't there a duty to act given his actions could result in a loss of reputation for the company if word gets out? Employees can sue as well so huge financial impacts are possible.
If the guy is not a serial harasser, which is unknown unless the company investigates (which should have been the first step if this meeting was the first time people found out), shouldn't he be treated just as fairly as other applicants. If it ever comes to light he was discriminated against based on alleged activities, he has grounds for a suit.
I say "especially" for the female executives because they are women and I feel women have a duty to other women to support them. So if all of them know and have done nothing, that's terrible. I also don't see why there would be a failure to act since he's a subordinate. Different story if he were higher up on the food chain.
the future is "old female club":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q57R_kHrx10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=3WMuzhQXJoY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo0KjdDJr1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz0o9clVQu8
http://www.businessinsider.com/female-ceos-blamed-company-scandals-2016-11
http://www.adstasher.com/2017/10/the-future-is-yours-to-see-campaign-by.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0gaYyNk7QA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr162OZ2Z0w
S01E03 - The Entire History of You
S04E03 - Crocodile
And I recall that recall was an option in S04E02 - Arkangel, but I could be wrong.
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But where would you wear the camera? I remember being pretty surprised this guy isn’t behind bars. Glad he’s out of the classroom:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/ryan-jarvis-acquittal-upheld-1.4352451
What happens when you record your interactions in the hopes of protecting yourself, then turn that camera off when it would record your criminal acts? Time will tell:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-body-camera-tampering-20180124-story.html
the police already do this. they are told to wear body cams at all times and have them running 24/7. but when the cops are about to do something questionable or premeditated, they turn their body cams off.
Good article on why Toronto bailed on the tech after trials:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-body-worn-cameras-police-technology-1.4357773
It’s probably not far off from being viable. I hope the technology makes its way to us as well. I’m tired of changing my GoPro batteries as often as I do.
Jerry Lewis once said that women aren't funny...then got his ass peeled by Bea Arthur.
I don't know who Rachel Parris is but she's fuckin funny.
I don't know who Rachel Parris is but she's fuckin funny.
1) Jerry Lewis was missing one word - "most". Very few women are funny and I can only name a few female comedians/actors I think are genuinely funny.
2) No offense but if you thought Rachel was funny you have low standards. I don't think she's funny at all and her nervous laugh at her own jokes tells a tale. The host is funny when he gets the fake outrage when she quips he can't do certain things anymore and he's like WTF? in jest.
I have to admit, I audio or in extreme cases video recorded meetings that I think might have the potential to come back to haunt me. It is against company policy in most cases. It saved me big-time from a discrimination suit once though so I take the risk.
KK
I think the other person has to be warned and consent to being filmed. Else they'll turn around and say you are recording snuff/erotic films and jerking off to them or some other BS accusation.
I don't know about all you guys, but I find most female comedians not very funny.
I find guys funnier. They tell stupider jokes, slobbier, and men seem to better at dry senses of humour. Guys are naturally messier too, so that helps fit in with jokes. It makes more sense for a fat ass hairy guy to tell dumb jokes than a female comedian who is likely more attractive and doesn't seem like they would be part of funny scenes. So it's like they are forcing/faking humour whereas a guy acting like a dick or shady seems more believable.... even if in real life he's a nice guy.
The times I find women funny is when there's scenes of women acting bitchy or mean to one another. For example, I thought Mean Girls was a hilarious movie as you have a bunch of stuck up pretentious girls acting snippy to everyone.
There are very few naturally funny women. I've never understood how Tina Fey is popular, same with Amy Schumer. Can't say I enjoyed Mean Girls as much as you.
There are certainly some characters/shows that are great. I recommend Gilmore Girls to everyone and Julia Louis Dreyfus is awesome. But some ladies who are popular and well-known, I don't get it. I don't get the love for Ellen DeGeneres. And 2/3 female characters on Big Bang are not funny (love Melissa Rauch though).
