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Merit(s) of Trump winning in 2024

squeezer

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that's just a role he is playing for people with TDS

he is a good showman, so good in fact that you believe it to be real :ROFLMAO:
Yes of course and Rudy, Cohen, Sydney, Pillow guy, all are profiting from Trumpy, I could go on and on but I rather you fend for yourself
 
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The Oracle

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No, I don't believe it was stolen. I think Biden had a way better ground game than Trump did, and a lot of anti-Trump support. Trump supporters should have realized that, and maybe they wouldn't have been surprised by the outcome and grasping for straws.

The shenanigans I am referring to could be Trump being thrown off the ballot, some loophole that allows the RNC to appoint Haley instead, or restrictions of day-of voting. Stuff like that.
The suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop played a role as well. Vivek is definitely right about that.

Combine that with a coordinated attack from MSM and mail in ballots. You have your difference.

Going to be interesting to witness Mr.Biden actually physically campaigning this time.
 
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kherg007

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Trump has lost elections for Rs every year since 2018. Why all of the sudden he's going to win?
Once it's head to head w Biden he'll lose again.
Once you're out of the fox bubble trump is the most reviled politician in recent history. Yet within that bubble it's full on trump propaganda...every Biden slip played ad nauseum, yet trumps out right lies, incoherence, mistaking Haley for pelosi...
Bidens economy way better than trumps best. Keep in mind 2017 was Obama's economy. Trumps tax cuts gave a small bit of juice for 2018, but then the trade wars and sugar high wore off and his GDP was cut in half in 2019 then free fall mismanaged 2020, worse since great depression.
 
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jalimon

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Trump was caught on tape asking to find votes to a secretary of state, a republican. Any decent country would have investigate immediately and punish such behaviour.

4 years later that trial has not happened and probably won’t until next election.

Its a fucking joke. Trump will win. China is more then happy about it. And Russia will be the big winners.

America will continue to turn into the shit hole they have been digging since reagan.

Even Zuckerberg is digging his own dungeon;)
 

dirtydaveiii

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The suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop played a role as well. Vivek is definitely right about that.

Combine that with a coordinated attack from MSM and mail in ballots. You have your difference.

Going to be interesting to witness Mr.Biden actually physically campaigning this time.
You do realize that Hunter's laptop was a republican hoax and contained absolutely nothing other than some nudes ? So Republicans weren't allowed to lie and exaggerate and that's what cost them the election ? Did it ever occur to you that the MSM is fair and balanced, reporting trumps crimes and follies is a representation of who he actually is not a made up persona like the republicans do to their political opponents? Your bias is telling. Just like DeShawn Watson and Trump- you believe Trump is innocent and Watson guilty but what is that based on exactly other than the false narrative you have been groomed to believe : that Trump is innocent of all the crimes he committed or should not have been charged for the crimes he admitted to committing. You people just will not accept that Trump was not a good president and he is a despicable human being.
 

rhuarc29

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I had to delete my like after you edited and added the second line. An insurrectionist should not be allowed to EVER run for the most powerful post in the world. I hope the Supreme Court agrees and keeps him off the ballot although I suspect they will not. I prefer Trump to Niki because I believe Niki would do better in a general election unless of course maga decides not to vote as a protest for Trump being out.
Trump has not been convicted of insurrection. If he were to be, and subsequently removed from the ballot, I would not call that shenanigans.

However, I don't think there are grounds to convict Trump of insurrection anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong, but to be charged with insurrection you have to knowingly incite violence and destruction against federal agents and government property. If calling for a protest, that subsequently turned violent and destructive, fell back on the person calling for protest, there'd be a ton of government officials (and advocacy leaders) behind bars right now.

What I find a more likely charge would be seditious conspiracy, as willful violence and destruction are not required burdens, though even that would be tricky to nail down IMO, because you would have to prove that Trump was instructing people to actually overthrow the rightful government. As far as I'm aware, he was advocating for looking into what he believed to be election discrepancies. However, I think the argument could go either way, and comes down to whether or not you believe Trump was actually asking protestors to go down and forcibly stop the ratification, and also that his reasoning was to keep himself in power rather than to address irregularities (in his mind). I think it's possible to make that argument and find him guilty of seditious conspiracy, but far from a sure thing. But that wouldn't make him an insurrectionist anyway.
 

squeezer

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Trump was caught on tape asking to find votes to a secretary of state, a republican. Any decent country would have investigate immediately and punish such behaviour.

4 years later that trial has not happened and probably won’t until next election.

Its a fucking joke. Trump will win. China is more then happy about it. And Russia will be the big winners.

America will continue to turn into the shit hole they have been digging since reagan.

Even Zuckerberg is digging his own dungeon;)
Hmmm, would China be happy, who would they prefer for me is the question? Russia yes, Putin will be dancing a happy dance if he can get Trump in but the Republicans like to use China as a punching bag and a distraction. I could be wrong but I get the feeling China prefers the Dems and the Libs running other countries as opposed to the radical right but that is just a gut feel.

 

squeezer

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Trump has not been convicted of insurrection. If he were to be, and subsequently removed from the ballot, I would not call that shenanigans.

However, I don't think there are grounds to convict Trump of insurrection anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong, but to be charged with insurrection you have to knowingly incite violence and destruction against federal agents and government property. If calling for a protest, that subsequently turned violent and destructive, fell back on the person calling for protest, there'd be a ton of government officials (and advocacy leaders) behind bars right now.

What I find a more likely charge would be seditious conspiracy, as willful violence and destruction are not required burdens, though even that would be tricky to nail down IMO, because you would have to prove that Trump was instructing people to actually overthrow the rightful government. As far as I'm aware, he was advocating for looking into what he believed to be election discrepancies. However, I think the argument could go either way, and comes down to whether or not you believe Trump was actually asking protestors to go down and forcibly stop the ratification, and also that his reasoning was to keep himself in power rather than to address irregularities (in his mind). I think it's possible to make that argument and find him guilty of seditious conspiracy, but far from a sure thing. But that wouldn't make him an insurrectionist anyway.
No conviction as of yet, you are correct but we've all seen his cohort's speeches and his riling up the magatwats. We heard, mainly hell mostly republicans testify under oath in the House stating his intentions. This is not a man that should ever hold office again. The Republicans need to wash this stain away to return back to their normal ways. I would bet a fortune Mitch McConnel is kicking himself for not allowing the Senate to Impeach the want-to-be dictator when they had the chance.

that's such a generalization

could mean anyone
Okay, you think my "the wealthy" is a generalization but you then agree, his family, Putin and Kim will be very happy with Trump in charge because Kim loves him and he loves sucking Putin dick. I'm glad we can agree on a few things now and then. LOL

His family, Putin, Kim and very wealthy folks. Have I missed anyone?
 
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Dutch Oven

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Trudeau had a rocky relationship with Trump, who once called him "dishonest and weak,"
Yet another thing Trump was right about!
 
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