MERGED Thread - Misc Topics

[bkfedward]

The problem is, as I understand it, that many studies of HIV transmission are inaccurate to the extent that rely on the person who contracted the disease to be absolutely truthful in detailing the exact specifics of instances of unprotected/protected sex, with who, and what kinda of sex eg anal/vaginal/oral

This hobby, to the general public, is still stigmatized, and the majority of hobbyists, who have families, SOs, etc, are unlikely to be completely truthful in detailing every sexual encounter that may have lead to them contracting HIV even to a trusted doctor. Therefore it is hard to narrow it down to a particular encounter.

There, as I understand it, has never been a single documented case of HIV passing through solely oral contact, on either end of the spectrum. It is hard to prove, as people who are prone to unprotected oral sex, can also be prone to unprotected vaginal or anal sex, so people who have gotten HIV, like splooge's friend, might have engaged in unprotected vaginal/anal sex and gotten it there. Anal is the highest rate of transmission I believe, and then vaginal. Condoms are highly effective in stopping HIV transmission, although not 100%

Other diseases, which are not fatal like HIV, like gonorrhea and herpes are much more easily transmitted through oral sex than HIV, although again, since the statistics that are presented to the general public are not explained properly, the horror stories that you hear that 1/3 of the general public has herpes, does not clearly explain how transmission occurred, and whether the infected were engaged in multiple high-risk unprotected activities or just one activity.

The other thing to remember (and I may be wrong on this one) but when you look at rates of transmission of STDs, the studies are based on many repeated exposures. For example if you have herpes and you have sex with your wife 100 times, she might contract it 8% of the time. However, if you have unprotected sex with one SP once, then your transmission rate goes down appropriately, minus mitigating factors such as an open sore or wound.

Having said all that, the idea that SPs are somehow 'safer' than civilians is laughable and a dangerous illusion. It is a simple question of volume. I have no idea, although I'm sure there's studies, that show the average number of sexual partners in a lifetime for the average woman, and despite rumors to the contrary it is very low, just as the number of sexual partners for an average male is. If you assume that a civilian has had sex with 40 men in her life (and I'm counting solely oral encounters as well), well even a SP with a relatively low-volume of clients easily surpasses that within six months, and that's generous. Now every SP I've been with, has always worn a condom for FS completely unprompted, but rarely for oral, and while I always prefer BBBJ, I would never wave off the condom, and given the way the definition of GFE/PSE has made BBBJ/DATY nearly standard across the industry, and just given the amount of potential exposures, it's a question of math. As well, I think people here like to think there's a thick line between SPs who offer BBFS, and those who don't, and it's easy to distinguish. I don't think it is that easy, and I have a feeling, that it would surprise a lot of guys how many guys push and push for, and get BBFS, even in the so-called higher end of the spectrum

Also, this isn't the 70s anymore, the risk of STDs is fairly well known, even to the general public, and I've always found that civilians tend to err on the safe side anyway. Also, in the case of most STDs, if even basic medical care is applied, as a SP, you can work with a STD, and while I'm sure there's many who wouldn't on moral grounds, there's also many who would. Rent has to be paid, and it's a lot better to be someone with herpes who has an apartment, than a homeless herpes victim

I do believe the rate of transmission of HIV is fairly similar, to civilian girls, but again, that's taking a fairly narrow chunk of the industry. If you include streetwalkers, and the lower-end of the industry, than I would imagine the rate of transmission compared to civilian girls goes higher

Obviously I'm not saying that even a majority of the agency SPs have STDs, I'm just saying to simply dismiss risks is dangerous.

wow...................

 

[bkfedward]

wife's cousin is hiv+... he hobbied and contracted it from the hetero side of the 'sport', but he's not the kinda guy you could get to talk about it in too much detail -who, where and when, who else... all we know is that he contracted it within the last 3 years and he only hobbied in the gta. anyone's guess... the scary part is that he did not know he had hiv until this winter. ie., he continued enjoying his hobbying up until he found out. He said it crushed him to not venture anymore and he said he holds alot of guilt as he exposed alot of peel region dancers to pussy slides, bb hj's, etc.. he also said he doesn't have faith in condoms as he swears he always used them for p in the v sex. no idea if he was into anal

that is terrible, if he hobby alot in gta with sp ,then we should go check ourself

 

[Ridgeman08]

well, you gotta for one accept that you will probably get herpes if you hobby.

Huh?!?!

 

[blackrock13]

as often as necessary

Sure, why not?

Ditto!!

New doctor maybe wanting to set a baseline. At least it's nor every couple of days. Big changes are more important.

 

[theycallmebruce]

How many days before you change towels, linen....

I shower every morning and change my towel every 5-7 days. My linen is changed every 2/3 weeks.

Is this an acceptable turnover period? Curious as to what my terbites do.

thanks again.

 

[good to go]

Towels every 3 days bed sheets every weekend fresh sheets.

 

[blackrock13]

These threads are so much fun. Considering that the demographics of TERBland are skewed a tad, it's is one was to see how much. Is it's for me about as you suggested, but if the SO is expected, fresh ones are always a fine welcome home/missed you gesture. Sleeping in fresh 100% cotton sheets is always a treat.

 

[bandit2238]

I use a New towel daily and wash my bed linens once a week.

 

[Morpheous]

Towels every 3 days. Linens,once a week or the day after a lady friend spends the night.

 

[good to go]

Twice first thing in the morning then after lunch usually does it for me.

 

[69Shooter]

Used to be once a day when I was in my 20s. The good thing was
back then I could manage to relieve myself on a regular basis
in the morning. Now that I am in my 40s it could be as often as
3 times a day. My concern is that is no longer as regular--the urge could
come any time. And I can only cut it down to once a day using herbs that
induce constipation. Could that be a sign foretelling incontinence in
my old age?

This could be your answer:

[video]http://www.viddler.com/explore/takxs/videos/62/[/video]

 

[james t kirk]

They guy is "crushed" over not being able to "venture anymore"? That is what he is concerned about?

Yet he says he caught HIV from a heterosexual stripper while using a condom?


More like he was "crushed" by some heavy stud with a big cock tearing his ass and allowing fluids to get into his bloodstream.

Because getting HIV infected fluids into your BLOODSTREAM is the ONLY way to become infected with that virus.

You beat me to it.

One of my good friends is a doctor - said exactly the same thing as Rub.

If you are a male in Canada who is HIV + you got it through tearing of your anus during anal sex or sharing needles (or on the slim chance, your cock was cut and her pussy was cut and you had sex).

The HIV virus needs a direct path into your blood stream. It's not bacteria. It amazes me how many people don't know the difference between bacteria and a virus.

 

[69Shooter]

How often do you breath?

Since we're discussing how often we shit, change underwear, towels and linens...

- How many times a day do you inhale/exhale?
- Are you more likely to breath through your nose or your mouth?
- If you fart in your own car do you hold your breath until the smell is gone?
- How long can you hold your breath?
- Have you ever held your breath long enough that you've passed out?
- Have you ever lauaghed so hard that you've forced a piece of solid food out your nose?

 

[blackrock13]

Since we're discussing how often we shit, change underwear, towels and linens...

- How many times a day do you inhale/exhale?
- Are you more likely to breath through your nose or your mouth?
- If you fart in your own car do you hold your breath until the smell is gone?
- How long can you hold your breath?
- Have you ever held your breath long enough that you've passed out?
- Have you ever lauaghed so hard that you've forced a piece of solid food out your nose?

I can see the punsters taking this one on with full gusto.

 

[mexx]

when i asked the doctor at the hassle free clinic about contracting hiv from having unprotected sex with a woman they told me the same thing --- that although it is possible the chances of it happening are very very slim. your highest risks are still gay sex and through shared needles. getting an sti on the other hand is a different story.

 

[69Shooter]

when i asked the doctor at the hassle free clinic about contracting hiv from having unprotected sex with a woman they told me the same thing --- that although it is possible the chances of it happening are very very slim. your highest risks are still gay sex and through shared needles. getting an sti on the other hand is a different story.

I guess 'Magic' was one of the unlucky ones. However, with all the sex he was having the odds were probably higher.

 

[Frosty]

absolutely none

 

[Brill]

Two, but one of them asked for cab fare the next morning - did she cross the whore threshold with this request?

 

[blackrock13]

Who knows if one of his secret Magic tricks was to make sausages quickly disappear up his ass or he was "on the down low" back in the 90's.

But the "odds" of getting it from heterosexual man-woman sex are the same for Magic as anyone, the huge number of sexual partners increased the probability.

Two, but one of them asked for cab fare the next morning - did she cross the whore threshold with this request?

Wha?

Wrong thread?

Hahahah ! Never mind. Fuuuuuuuny!

Hey, it was funny though.

 

[69Shooter]

Who knows if one of his secret Magic tricks was to make sausages quickly disappear up his ass or he was "on the down low" back in the 90's.

But the "odds" of getting it from heterosexual man-woman sex are the same for Magic as anyone, the huge number of sexual partners increased the probability.

Yes. I'll agree that I typed odds when I should have type probability. Thanks for pointing that out.

As for Magic being "on the down low"; who knows? There was a special on recently about Bird and Johnson. In one segment, Johnson commented on how many woman left their names, numbers, etc. at every hotel at which the Lakers stayed. He recounted one occasion where he was with 6 women at one time... it's possible that, in all the "confusion", a dude got into the mix without his knowledge.