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NotADcotor

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That’s statement is true for the women who are good looking. If a women is not good looking, then your statement is not true at all.
That isn't true. I know some horrid looking women, none of whom have problem pulling. They might not be getting 10 out of 10's but they can sure get smashed by higher level dudes.

Relationships also, not a problem. Kids, Massive man style belly, border line retarded, there is a guy out there that will commit. Might have to lower the standards a bit more but not an issue.

As for guys, it is a very different story if you are on the Soggoth side of things. Sure if you got money or drugs or fame you can punch above your looks, but then if you had those things you are no longer unattractive to women because men are success objects. Hell if I had a dollar for every woman who found me unattractive, I'd be attractive to women.
 

purpleshaft

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I would give him what I charge for an hour of course. If he’s got great hands ;)
OK I'll throw my hat in. I'll give you a massage and when I'm done you can decide what is worth. Maybe I'll just do it for fun
 

haplessinquiry

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That’s statement is true for the women who are good looking. If a women is not good looking, then your statement is not true at all.
It's actually mostly true for women with "The Attitude", it almost doesn't matter what they look like: slim, fat, short, tall, etc.
 

Alison_xox

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Bump

I am bumping because I have a client that asked for a specific session.
He gave me permission to post here.

What he would like :
A voyeur session.
So basically someone to be watching our session while masturbating.
He would like that person to be a man.
He doesn’t have a specific type. Any man of any age , race or shape would do.

It can be a male provider or simply a client that would share that fantasy.

Let me know in pm if you are interested to be that voyeur person.

Kisses
Ali
 

Alison_xox

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I have my voyeur :)
Thanks for your replies.

Ps. I will be keeping a list of names that are offering to be the voyeur on those kind of sessions.
It seems to be more popular than I thought.
If you would like me to reach out to you for the role of voyeur in a session, pm me and I’ll be happy to put your name on that list.

Kisses
Ali
 

Hughlongly

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So, there are male escorts in Ottawa. However, they don't advertise and they are strictly for other men. How do I explain this? Ok, so, gay men have, since Christ was a Cowboy, had underground secret meets and even though the world has 'accepted' gay men, many prefer to remain underground. Call it old school, call it a want for privacy, call it their own damn business and no one gets to judge, whatever. Many male escorts work bath houses or clubs. They stay IN community and therefore have no need to advertise. A lot of work comes from word of mouth referrals (pun intended, see what I did there?). This doesn't include rent-boys and yes, rent-boys still exist. Overall, it's a numbers game. You will find far more male escorts in larger urban centers south of the border than in Canada. In Canada, you'll find more in Toronto than in Ottawa. I'm not sure I'm doing it justice or making sense, but they're very different from heterosexual sex workers. There's far more acceptance in the community. One way that it's different is that, for a very long time, gay men met in secret clubs because they had to and in those secret clubs there were male escorts who were very plainly sex workers and accepted as such by the community. As the secret club was already risky to find and get into, if you wanted work you had to be very open and in the old days, establishments got a cut of the male sex workers earnings via rental of rooms, booths etc. You don't find that in heterosexual settings because, being the dominant orientation, heterosexuals never had to hide. It's the reverse of gay escorts. Because gay men hide and had to go looking for these secret places, which were illegal in most places, the male escorts were right out in the open in the secret place. Where as it's the opposite for heterosexual escorts, because heterosexual sex was the 'norm' and going outside of the societal sanctioned courting process was frowned upon AND in many cases illegal, the heterosexual escorts had to hide AND find ways of advertising themselves without getting caught. Does that make sense? There ARE male escorts that advertise on places like Locanto who claim they are 'strictly' for women and it may be so, but my gut tells me it's a not always the case.
 

Alison_xox

Alisonxox
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So, there are male escorts in Ottawa. However, they don't advertise and they are strictly for other men. How do I explain this? Ok, so, gay men have, since Christ was a Cowboy, had underground secret meets and even though the world has 'accepted' gay men, many prefer to remain underground. Call it old school, call it a want for privacy, call it their own damn business and no one gets to judge, whatever. Many male escorts work bath houses or clubs. They stay IN community and therefore have no need to advertise. A lot of work comes from word of mouth referrals (pun intended, see what I did there?). This doesn't include rent-boys and yes, rent-boys still exist. Overall, it's a numbers game. You will find far more male escorts in larger urban centers south of the border than in Canada. In Canada, you'll find more in Toronto than in Ottawa. I'm not sure I'm doing it justice or making sense, but they're very different from heterosexual sex workers. There's far more acceptance in the community. One way that it's different is that, for a very long time, gay men met in secret clubs because they had to and in those secret clubs there were male escorts who were very plainly sex workers and accepted as such by the community. As the secret club was already risky to find and get into, if you wanted work you had to be very open and in the old days, establishments got a cut of the male sex workers earnings via rental of rooms, booths etc. You don't find that in heterosexual settings because, being the dominant orientation, heterosexuals never had to hide. It's the reverse of gay escorts. Because gay men hide and had to go looking for these secret places, which were illegal in most places, the male escorts were right out in the open in the secret place. Where as it's the opposite for heterosexual escorts, because heterosexual sex was the 'norm' and going outside of the societal sanctioned courting process was frowned upon AND in many cases illegal, the heterosexual escorts had to hide AND find ways of advertising themselves without getting caught. Does that make sense? There ARE male escorts that advertise on places like Locanto who claim they are 'strictly' for women and it may be so, but my gut tells me it's a not always the case.
Very interesting.
Thanks for explaining it to us. It’s a very hidden world ..
🥰
 

pacman647

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I have seen many men try to be escorts but I think they get turned off by the overwhelming number of men that want to talk to them. Men will even pretend to be women to talk to a male provider the same way they waste our time. I had many friends try but were unsuccessful at attracting female clients. Only men.
Bang on, I wouldn't say I dabbled in being a male escort. How ever in my early years of finding jobs to have fun with, I found myself dancing at female strip clubs and I got a lot of males asking for private dances and takeout (didn't know what that meant the first time I was asked that..LOL).

The bigger issue with male SP's is that.. for some you have to be attracted to the female otherwise Mr. Small Head might not rise to the occasion and the lady is expecting to be serviced.
Its totally different for females as in both areas (Civilian vs. SP's)... I have had my fair share of starfish sessions.
 

Capital Amatuer

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Bang on, I wouldn't say I dabbled in being a male escort. How ever in my early years of finding jobs to have fun with, I found myself dancing at female strip clubs and I got a lot of males asking for private dances and takeout (didn't know what that meant the first time I was asked that..LOL).
😊Yes ironically enough not many male strippers have (or want) girlfriends. I had the opportunity when Chip'n Dales was under Pigales to have been able to make this discovery. It's a loose statement, not aimed at anyone. And a club on Frank Street catered to transsexuals/cross-dressers which was not too far from Somerset Str. (between Bank & O'Connor). When I was in my 40's I encountered that lifestyle because of my job at the time. Pardon me if I've used wrong terms, blame it on me for not being educated with the lifestyle language.
 
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Alison_xox

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Is this applicable to men who aren't your clients and haven't seen you yet? Or only for return clients?
Well it was for everyone , but I already have a lot of volunteers.
I think it’s a thing after all.

Thanks everyone for giving me your names for the list.
I think I am good on volunteers now.

Kisses
Ali
 
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Riverrunner28

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Does anyone else feel the way I do now? It seems maybe we were put to task a little bit? All has been settled however for the OP :)
 

Hughlongly

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Very interesting.
Thanks for explaining it to us. It’s a very hidden world ..
🥰
It's FASCINATING. If you really want to see something wild, take a look at gay men and women in the old soviet bloc countries. In Poland, Operation Hyacinth was a secret mass operation carried out by the Citizens Militia (the cops) in the years 1985-87. Its purpose was to create a national database of all Polish homosexuals and people who were in touch with them. It resulted in the registration of around 11,000 people. Men met in public restrooms, but, as it was the Soviet Bloc, it was super super risky. Initially, the Bolsheviks decriminalized homosexuality in the 1917 revolution, but Stalin, good old' Uncle Joe, re-criminalized it for men in the 30's with a sentence of five years in a gulag. Today we make a big deal about Russia being anti-LGBT, but we turn a blind eye to Poland. Poland being ultra-catholic has never looked upon same sex as something good. This rabbit hole is deep.
 

oldfart1

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In the immortal words of Phil Robertson

“It seems like, to me, a vagina — as a man — would be more desirable than a man’s anus,”
 
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