Men are disgusting

[Jasmine Raine]

That may be the worst attempt at analogously combining two unrelated things I've ever seen.

PEOPLE are innocent until proven guilty, which is the prime tenet of any good justice system. A justice system without such a tenet is more or less mob justice. Which is exactly what we're seeing through social media when a man has been merely accused of sexual harassment or sexual assault. No one here is saying they're innocent victims of fem-nazis out to get their wealth or a moment of fame. We are saying that might be the case, just as it may be the case they are guilty and the true victims have previously been silenced. The point is, things need to be proven before punishment is dished out. Anything else is a quite disgusting way to do justice, IMO.

You can't say what others say or don't say. There are plenty on board who think men the victim. YOU may not but plenty do. And you know that. We have seen plenty adhere to the trumpism of just grab her in the pussy, on this very board. Please don't lump yourself into the group I am referring to. You are not like them at all. You insult yourself when you do that. You are not one of those guys.

I was not comparing however. I was personally laughing my ass off at how some of these same men are getting ippity about a bare ass in a thread like this. That is disgusting. Whipping your dick out infront of the intent at the office however is not. That is just good fun and besides, she just has to say no. No biggie.

Anyway, I found that warped mentality to be funny yesterday and hence my post. I am not debating the point. It is not worth it.

 

[shack]

You can't say what others say or don't say. There are plenty on board who think men the victim. YOU may not but plenty do. And you know that. We have seen plenty adhere to the trumpism of just grab her in the pussy, on this very board. Please don't lump yourself into the group I am referring to. You are not like them at all. You insult yourself when you do that. You are not one of those guys.

I was not comparing however. I was personally laughing my ass off at how some of these same men are getting ippity about a bare ass in a thread like this. That is disgusting. Whipping your dick out infront of the intent at the office however is not. That is just good fun and besides, she just has to say no. No biggie.

Anyway, I found that warped mentality to be funny yesterday and hence my post. I am not debating the point. It is not worth it.

Thanks for hijacking this previously fun thread. You have taken it off topic for your crusade. None of us care. STFU.

 

[shack]

Anybody seen sempel?

 

[Jasmine Raine]

Thanks for hijacking this previously fun thread. You have taken it off topic for your crusade. None of us care. STFU.

You are very welcome.

Have a nice day!

 

[sempel]

Anybody seen sempel?

Although it doesn't seem like it, sometimes I do have other things to occupy my time...

We'll just agree to disagree. I don't dispute that toilets and sinks in bathrooms are dirty, I don't deny something like my own keyboard is dirty, and I don't deny two people having sweaty sex are dirty. The difference is choice and solutions. I can clean off a toilet before use, I can wash my hands and avoid touching stuff until exiting the bathroom. It's my keyboard, it's my germs. Same with a person I choose to be with. If I was a true germaphobe I imagine I'd avoid human contact, kissing, all public places, etc. But I do object to a guy sitting on a bench naked so others come into contact with whatever he leaves behind.

And as for Jessica, total nonsensical hijack. The only reason I mention this is the hypocrisy of her pointing fingers at others and then doing the same. Sad.

 

[rhuarc29]

You can't say what others say or don't say. There are plenty on board who think men the victim. YOU may not but plenty do. And you know that. We have seen plenty adhere to the trumpism of just grab her in the pussy, on this very board. Please don't lump yourself into the group I am referring to. You are not like them at all. You insult yourself when you do that. You are not one of those guys.

I was not comparing however. I was personally laughing my ass off at how some of these same men are getting ippity about a bare ass in a thread like this. That is disgusting. Whipping your dick out infront of the intent at the office however is not. That is just good fun and besides, she just has to say no. No biggie.

Anyway, I found that warped mentality to be funny yesterday and hence my post. I am not debating the point. It is not worth it.

Okay. Without knowing the discussion you're referring to, I can't accurately confirm or deny. Maybe I simply jumped the gun, though I find it extremely frustrating and worrying that many seem to assume automatic guilt when it comes accusations of wrongdoing in regards to sexual harassment. It's not because I think men should get away with harassment, it's that I know human nature. Human nature is to lie. Human nature is differing perspectives. Human nature is to misread a situation or exaggerate to support your argument. None of these lends itself to justice or fairness.


All that said, I absolutely condemn any man who actually does think it's okay to do the things you mention above.

 

[Jasmine Raine]

WOW!! Please tell us that you don't think maleness precludes everyone from also being a target of perpetrators (in simple terms - men can't be victims)!


Cover up because Jessica, your sexist, misandric, old school underbelly is showing. Tut. Tut. Tut.

Hahahaha. Ya cause THAT is what I said. You are too funny.

Then again you feel you are a victim of women simply for being born male. I won't bother getting into what that shows about you.

Have a great day.

 

[Jasmine Raine]

Okay. Without knowing the discussion you're referring to, I can't accurately confirm or deny. Maybe I simply jumped the gun, though I find it extremely frustrating and worrying that many seem to assume automatic guilt when it comes accusations of wrongdoing in regards to sexual harassment. It's not because I think men should get away with harassment, it's that I know human nature. Human nature is to lie. Human nature is differing perspectives. Human nature is to misread a situation or exaggerate to support your argument. None of these lends itself to justice or fairness.


All that said, I absolutely condemn any man who actually does think it's okay to do the things you mention above.

I get what you are saying. Remember I am the one who posted first about Patrick Brown, I am the first to support female teachers being equally charged for sexually harassment of their students and I am the one who calls for arrests for false reporting. I do my best to be as fair as possible. I am human and I fail sometimes but I really try.

However, while most men have the same opinion of possible "victimization" from false reporting etc, there are tons and tons of cases where men have gotten away with sexual assault against women simply because the burden of proof was he said, she said and he happen to have more money, more power, etc etc. You can't deny that.

While I strive to see the other side, I feel that sometimes, while you and some others condemn the actions of sexual assault and harassment, you can be making it harder for female victims by not seeing their struggle past the actual act of the assault.

If that makes any sense. I am working without coffee here. Lol.

Anyways, that is just a little thing, you are not one of the "disgusting" men who support those types of actions and you certainly don't feel all men are victims of the horrible Big Bad Vagina Corporation.

In my most non passive aggressive way - you have a wonderful day.

 

[MissCroft]

 

[shack]

Thanks for the laugh and also getting us back on the track of a fun thread.