Meeting women is still a Catch-22 for me

chodge

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This was my thought going into this thread. Despite Hollywood fiction plots that show ordinary guys hitching up to the hotties, most girls are just as infatuated with looks as guys are. If during any point in your life you went to a night club to meet women and took a second to people watch - you know whom the hot girls want just by following their gaze. Walk between them and their target and they will look away until their view is unobstructed. I am not suggesting this is bad, just that possibly your problem is that you are setting your limits too high.

If we fit into the typical norm of male attractiveness and are obsessed with odds:



Either one 10,000,000 : 1 against scoring ........... Scoring both 10 x zillion, zillion: 1 against.



Anyone of them = good odds; All of them - add two tequilas each and I'd say pretty damn good.

It's all in setting your goals.
 

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Could this be your problem?


Hit on UGLY, fat, short / tall women. Make sure they are not Lesbians. Don't discriminate. One date won't kill you at Tims Horton.
 

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Could this be your problem?


Hit on UGLY, fat, short / tall women. Make sure they are not Lesbians. Don't discriminate. One date won't kill you at Tims Horton.
I will begin to listen to Peterson when my razor blades start to look good..... Christ dude!
 

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Meeting women is still a catch-22 for me. I use to be extremely shy with girls in high school. I didn’t talk to any of them because I never approached them and they never went out of their way to approach and talk to me. It obviously never helped my case in being good with the opposite sex.

Now that I am older, I do the complete opposite. I approach any woman that I think is sexually attractive at which ever place I’m in. Malls, clubs, expo events, bars and you name it. I got rejected by roughly 9 to 10 women this year so far.

When I didn’t talk to girls in high school, I didn’t get anywhere with them. When I asked those 9-10 women out for a date this month, they rejected me so I never got anywhere with them; It’s a catch-22. I don’t know how you guys were able to escape the catch-22. I’m trying my best man.
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Could this be your problem?


Hit on UGLY, fat, short / tall women. Make sure they are not Lesbians. Don't discriminate. One date won't kill you at Tims Horton.
Hell why stop there, why not hit on dudes.

Guys are basically really ugly chicks with reason and accountability.
Also more holes. when you golfing with them you can usually do a full 18.
 
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Hell why stop there, why not hit on dudes.

Guys are basically really ugly chicks .....
I don't think hairy balls and a dick are under the 'chick' category. ( To quote Seinfeld : not that there is anything wrong with that ...)
 

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All right…I understand what you guys are saying about cold approaching not being advisable with valid reasons. I will tell you why I do it.

Most of you know I love when women get work done on their body and get their nails done long. Those women are my type. A woman like this isn’t going magically fall on my lap which is why I cold approach those women. I watched the Darius video and he’s summarily saying to approach women who show choosing signals and interest first. I read your suggestions on finding a group activity to join and meet women that way also. I do agree that my success rate would be higher this way for any woman.

My questions for you guys are: What do you think are the chances of a women who get work done on their body with a BBL , fake tits and nails done long showing effort and interest to me first and/or meeting these women through a group activity? Wouldn’t you agree that I would have a better chance of cold approaching the type that I’m looking for?
Good on your for trying to get out of your comfort zome and talking to as many ladies as possible. On the other hand, I think you need to get clear on what your desired outcome is. Are you only looking for sex, something casual, long-terrm relationship or possibly even marriage and kids? Your approach needs to adjust depending on that goal and won't work with all girls. You need to learn to read people a better: body language, voice tone, etc. You can't do the same thing over and over again and expect different resuls.

Regardless of the type of girl or your desire outcome, cold approaching is a plain old numbers game. As you said yourself, your rejection rate is very high so you're going to have to talk to a huge amount of women. Maybe you have the stomach to get rejected over and over again, but I'll bet that you can't do it long-term.

Pick an activity that you're actually interested in and not just to pick up the girl's your interested in. People can sense bullshit and desperation from miles away.
 

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Cold calls still work you just need timing. In the past month and a bit I have picked up two women at malls using cold calls.

First, during the Christmas rush at Square One I noticed a early 30s hottie scoping out the food court for both a small line and a table to sit at, just as I was. After about 10 minutes of bumping into her I simply stated to her "No luck?" I follow with comments about the lines being too long and not tables available which she agreed. I then told her I was about to give up and head to Moxies but would like some company and offered to take her as my treat. She gladly accepted. Ended the evening at her place. We have since met up again to do some shopping with me as her personal bag carrier.

Second, just this past weekend was leaving a different mall and noticed an early 40s milf dressed in leather, which I love. I stopped and held the door open, she thanked me and told me I didn't have to. I told her I did as I had to tell her her outfit was amzing. After some small chit chat I scored her number.

When approaching women find the common ground and don't look needy.
 

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Hit on UGLY, fat, short / tall women. Make sure they are not Lesbians. Don't discriminate. One date won't kill you at Tims Horton.
Agree!

Fat I can't but I did hook up in my early 30's with a total shy nerd. First time I met her I tough my god no way... But I hang on. I was her first guy. We went on and off for 2 years.

Do go out with girl even if at first glance you do not feel anything. It can be fun you never know ;)
 

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This was my thought going into this thread. Despite Hollywood fiction plots that show ordinary guys hitching up to the hotties, most girls are just as infatuated with looks as guys are. If during any point in your life you went to a night club to meet women and took a second to people watch - you know whom the hot girls want just by following their gaze. Walk between them and their target and they will look away until their view is unobstructed. I am not suggesting this is bad, just that possibly your problem is that you are setting your limits too high.

If we fit into the typical norm of male attractiveness and are obsessed with odds:



Either one 10,000,000 : 1 against scoring ........... Scoring both 10 x zillion, zillion: 1 against.



Anyone of them = good odds; All of them - add two tequilas each and I'd say pretty damn good.

It's all in setting your goals.
I must be getting very old and enfeebled, I don't see the difference between the two pics. I would approach neither. The best way to learn how to read women is the supermarket. It takes work, don't be impatient and don't always ask for a kumquat.

 

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Flirt/ make em laugh with every female from 8 to 80! No joke the hot mom that see’s her kids laugh in line at the grocery store will totally be disarmed as long as you don’t come off creepy. Got stuck recently between a pretty hot 20 sumthin & a lady old enough to be my mom sitting in coach on a flight & made a few jokes to lighten the mood on a bumpy flight. The old lady ended up buying me a drink & gave me the if I was 20 years younger( trust me it would take more than 20yrs & a lot of whisky). She got up to use the lavatory & the hot 20 sumthim said I gotta hand it to you your pretty smooth... I joked & said how do you know I’m groomed down there. # scored

It’s a game of odds if your not flirtin/communicating with women, your not getting numbers...your not getting laid it’s pretty simple
 

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Hell why stop there, why not hit on dudes.

Guys are basically really ugly chicks with reason and accountability.
Also more holes. when you golfing with them you can usually do a full 18.
Not dudes but " New Men" or "New Man", These are extremist or Ultra Feminist ladies who think there are still laws missing in the charter of rights to help their emotional mental entitled syndrome. Pretty much narcissist.

To get your confidence and or rebound from a break up you have to start at the bottom and work your way up. Old dating books and old men stories. Like rebound sex - You know what that is right? Then once you have normalize your mental baggage find the one you want.

That is what I meant by
Could this be your problem?

Hit on UGLY, fat, short / tall women. Make sure they are not Lesbians. Don't discriminate. One date won't kill you at Tims Horton.
Start at the bottom and work your way up. This is the inverse of a bell curve.
 

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as long as you don’t come off creepy.
Some dudes just come across creepy. Just the way they are, I knew a guy like that. I wouldn't even know where to begin to fix that. It wasn't one thing, not like he was being pervy* just everything was stiff and awkward and toss in a boat load of weirdness. Everything.

*of course pervy works if you are attractive enough, anything works if you are attractive enough, I've seen that also. The 2 rules to avoid sexual harassment. 1: Be hot, 2: Don't be not hot as the SNL parody says.
 
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