Mayor Miller

This is going to sound stupid but I think there should be "no politics" on city council!!!!!!!! ie: Party Politics NDP PC LIB etc. They are there to govern the City and WORK for the PEOPLE NOT their own political party agenda.!!!!!!
 
Of course that is open for debate

james t kirk said:
Wrong, Rae did bring it in, Harris repealed it within weeks of taking office.

If you want to strike, knock yourself out, but I believe that companies should have the right to hire replacement workers.


Some places don't allow it.
 
Dangerously naive

spankingman said:
This is going to sound stupid but I think there should be "no politics" on city council!!!!!!!! ie: Party Politics NDP PC LIB etc. They are there to govern the City and WORK for the PEOPLE NOT their own political party agenda.!!!!!!


As long as city coucil is democratic it will have parties or factions which are almost the same thing.
 
Mia.Colpa said:
I know more than you think, the city spent thousands paying camera men and security personnel at each picket location

Plainly you do not understand the bureaucratic mind. The city paid to have the evidence collected because not to do so would be a breach of protocol. No bureaucrat will fail to collect evidence like that, ever.

They *easily* could have got an injunction based on the evidence they had. In fact, they could have got an injunction based on 1/100th of the evidence they collected.

They *chose* not to, it was very much a choice, because they *chose* not to "antagonize" the union. In fact, they *said* that they weren't seeking injunctions for this reason. They said it.

The city made a conscious choice to appease the union by taking what they would call a non-antagonistic approach (I would call it the pussy approach).

They could have, like Windsor, hired contractors to clear the temporary dump sites. They *chose* not to. They could have got injunctions to limit the union's activities. They *chose* not to.

Miller and his team throughout this process believed in appeasing the union, more or less came out and said so.

That is weak, and a failed way to run a city.

You say you "know too much", maybe you are in on the clique of weak people who fail at knowing how to deal with a union.

"Mia Culpa" indeed!
 
I strongly suspect the mayor and most of city council were elected with strong union support.
When contract negotiations for police and then the firefighters commenced there were no issues, they got what they wanted no contest.
Before the trough emptied Miller et al voted themselves a nice fat raise.
Then when CUPE wanted theirs the trough was empty
Miller could not raise taxes again...(but he will)
He could go begging again to McGintey but he needed to show the citizens of Toronto and the premier that he tried to control wage increases
Miller knew he was eventually going to fold he just needed to put on a show
IN OTHER WORDS THE STRIKE WAS A SHAM WE WERE SET UP. UNION CITY!
 
I agree with Mia Colpa, there is no use arguing with Fuji, he just doesn't know what he is talking about but it doesn't stop him pontificating. I'm moving back to talking about girls. Knock yourself out Fuji.
 
oral.com said:
I strongly suspect the mayor and most of city council were elected with strong union support.
When contract negotiations for police and then the firefighters commenced there were no issues, they got what they wanted no contest.
Before the trough emptied Miller et al voted themselves a nice fat raise.
Then when CUPE wanted theirs the trough was empty
Miller could not raise taxes again...(but he will)
He could go begging again to McGintey but he needed to show the citizens of Toronto and the premier that he tried to control wage increases
Miller knew he was eventually going to fold he just needed to put on a show
IN OTHER WORDS THE STRIKE WAS A SHAM WE WERE SET UP. UNION CITY!

Yep.

Pretty much, only 1 problem. The province and the feds are broke so I'd be amazed if Miller got a dime when he goes begging to them on his yearly trip.

I'd be very curious to see how the City has increased spending under the reign of Chairman Miller AND how many employees they have added under Miller.

As far as this being a Union Town goes, you have to look no further than the fact that if you want to do business with the City of Toronto, your company has to be unionized.
 
I heard yesterday they have increased by 1400 employees since Miller took office, I think there all ticket maids.
 
Good thing he lost. In Toronto he lost by 30000 votes and provincially he lost by over 5000 votes when he thaught he could beat the education minister.
 
The city has a 2009 budget of 8.7 BILLION dollars. Year after year duing the so called "good times" this city had a DEFICIT of 400 million dollars.

It will be very interesting to see where the budget deficit ends up in 2010

That right aways shows that Miller's government doesn't have a clue how to run a city. To me, I'd be saying, ok, your budget is 8.3 billion dollars.

The PROBLEM is that the socialists who run the City of Toronto would simply cut where the public will notice it the MOST. They would close libraries, swimming pools, stop fixing roads and bridges. They'd let watermains burst out of the roads before they cut staff, or stopped spending on special interest groups, or elminated pork.

There are all kinds of things that could be cut that you and I would NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS notice the difference. But where's the fun in that?

They would prefer that we all suffer in order to drive home their point.

That's the fucking part I hate.

Add to that the fact that Miller and his socialist cronies ate through the so called "rainy day fund" of 1.2 billion dollars in order to continue to finance their special interests.
 
Sukdeep said:
Why? Because you like paying extra taxes? Because you like special interest groups taking your money for their causes? Because you like lazy, greedy civil servants providing inferior service?

He has more or less said he does like all those things and openly admits to being a lazy, greedy civil servant himself I think.
 
I heard them say yesterday they have 900 million in a pot from Toronto hydro but it cannnot be used for the operating budget.
 
Strangely enough Toronto Hydro (if you've ever worked with them) is always crying that it has no money - especially for infrastructure renewal. (They always want the City to pay for it.)