Maui on fire

Frankfooter

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You obviously can't read very well or at all.
Nowhere did I mention California. Put down the weed and sober up.
You believe the Maui fire is due to climate change. Which it isn't.
Done arguing with someone as clueless as you.
Its not 'due' to climate change, its made worse because of climate change.
 
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You obviously can't read very well or at all.
Nowhere did I mention California. Put down the weed and sober up.
You believe the Maui fire is due to climate change. Which it isn't.
Done arguing with someone as clueless as you.
Talk about clueless? Not reading well? That's a joke coming from you.

1)One of the articles you posted referenced California.

2)I never said that this incident in and of itself was due to climate change. I said that it was part of a global pattern of more frequent and severe extreme weather events. Feel free to post the quote where I said what you claim.

I'm sorry if the nuance of what I said was above your comprehension level. Can you take some remedial classes to help with that? I was obviously giving you too much credit.

And you have yet to provide one single article that shows that Hawaii has had previous events of this magnitude. NOT ONE. As such, your claim that this is nothing unusual for Hawaii is total BS. You are just talking out of your ass. Typical for a climate denier.

p.s. Your post above initiated the insults and name calling. It had been civil prior.
 

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I see the collapse of the economy happening because of climate.

The population is disturbing the regular path of climate change at a level that is too fast.

The big disturber will be... Insurance company.

Insurance company sells you an insurance as long as they remain low risk. They are now pulling out of many Florida and California location because the risk is not justified anymore.

Who will insure these Maui homes in the future?

Am I a fatalist? Not at all. I actually would love that the complete market of residential housing would completely collapse. It would hurt me a lot financially but I don't give a fuck. I will survive it and many will stop ending up in the street homeless. Down the road we will have a better society.

I the meantime all my hope for people in Maui to stay alive!
We won’t see those changes if it happens for centuries. People as whole will continue to devolve as the world goes to shit.
Physically, Economically etc.
Been saying this for a while.
Do what makes you happy, help those you can along the way.
❤U4LAEA
❤🙏🏼💪🏼4MAUI
 
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bazokajoe

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Fatalities up to 93 and over 2200 buildings/homes damaged or destroyed.
Sad part is only 3% of area was searched by cadaver dogs.


 

Robert Mugabe

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Fatalities up to 93 and over 2200 buildings/homes damaged or destroyed.
Sad part is only 3% of area was searched by cadaver dogs.


Just another average summer in Hawaii.
It's not uncommon for brush fires to happen at least once a month. Even in the winter months which is their typical rainy season.
Talk to people who have visited any of the Hawaiian islands many times. Maybe they can clue you in.
 
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Not getting younger

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Neither arguing for or against. Am more of a mind that it’s way too early to jumping on a bandwagon no matter how possible..

While I typically don’t like the cbc, I find this somewhat balanced. Sounds like the hand of man more than anything.

One study cited deforestation, the abandonment of agricultural lands and the introduction of non-native, fire-prone grasses as factors that have made Hawaii more susceptible to fire.
 

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The social network are now inundated by new conspiracy plot...

The latest is all those fires in Italy, Greece, France, Maui, etc... are all happening is beautiful pieces of land so the billionnaires of the world, estate or capital firm, big corporation like insurance company will actually buy those burned land and rebuild properties themselves....
 

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But there is no climate change. Right, Phil. Your grandfather is your authority.
Sure let's blame climate change....but currently what has the Biden administration been doing about this? There's billions funneled to Ukraine in a span of what? Is Maui still in a state of emergency or it has upgraded to a state of disaster?
 

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Sure let's blame climate change....but currently what has the Biden administration been doing about this? There's billions funneled to Ukraine in a span of what? Is Maui still in a state of emergency or it has upgraded to a state of disaster?
To repeat myself, I am not blaming climate change directly for this event. I am saying that it is another case of a pattern of incidents like this worldwide that are increasing in frequency and severity. Natural disasters have always occurred and always will. But this increase from what was the historical norm is what is disturbing.

It is clear that temperatures globally are increasing. Increase in temperatures and increases in natural disasters occurring concurrently. Coincidence? I, IMHO, think not.

Trying to score political points accomplishes nothing. Everyone is impacted someway. As I recall, trump weakened the EPA's powers.
 
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richaceg

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To repeat myself, I am not blaming climate change directly for this event. I am saying that it is another case of a pattern of incidents like this worldwide that are increasing in frequency and severity. Natural disasters have always occurred and always will. But this increase from what was the historical norm is what is disturbing.

It is clear that temperatures globally are increasing. Increase in temperatures and increases in natural disasters occurring concurrently. Coincidence? I, IMHO, think not.

Trying to score political points accomplishes nothing. Everyone is impacted someway. As I recall, trump weakened the EPA's powers.
I would say climate change / global warming is a big factor of this wildfires....it isn't political but what has the Biden administration done so far? I mean, they've been throwing billions overseas and not on your own backyard? Heck I'd say this, even if it's Trump at the helm...he wouldn't do shit either because US gov't loves going global...they love to be in the global stage....
 

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The utilities left their hi voltage system on during the fierce winds, no doubt causing numerous fire starts.

It happened like that in California not long ago.
 

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I would say climate change / global warming is a big factor of this wildfires....it isn't political but what has the Biden administration done so far? I mean, they've been throwing billions overseas and not on your own backyard? Heck I'd say this, even if it's Trump at the helm...he wouldn't do shit either because US gov't loves going global...they love to be in the global stage....
This!!!!!

Despite all we “know”, despite all we should know given science and super computers, models, and how godlike they are at predicting the future. what have the political elite, and alarmist actually done….squat, that’s what. And in many cases, the opposite…

So scared of Armageddon, Fire and Brimstone…..when even animals with brains the sizes of peas, are getting out of dodge, finding greener pastures……………..

What was it JT said to an indigenous person asking about clean water…..

“Thanks for paying”
 
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Frankfooter

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This!!!!!

Despite all we “know”, despite all we should know given science and super computers, models, and how godlike they are at predicting the future. what have the political elite, and alarmist actually done….squat, that’s what. And in many cases, the opposite…

So scared of Armageddon, Fire and Brimstone…..when even animals with brains the sizes of peas, are getting out of dodge, finding greener pastures……………..

What was it JT said to an indigenous person asking about clean water…..

“Thanks for paying”
You should try using the google and checking out the Biden climate plan, its getting quite a bit done and renewables are up massively as a result.
But those are facts and they likely don't work with your world view.

The change in science deniers from 'its all fake news' to 'they didn't warn us enough' would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.
 
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