If you only had 1 choice, then I would say Jiu-jitsu is the way to go. Especially if you're fighting a bigger/taller opponent. Basically you want to close the distance, take him down and submit him. You don't want to be standing there trading punches because your reach will be shorter. Also, it's usually not realistic to be able to guillotine-choke someone who is taller than you. It's proven through the Gracie family. There's one dojo on highway 7 and Leslie or Bayview (can't remember now, it's been so long). But it's so prevalent now that you shouldn't have any trouble finding these businesses in general.
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Like any sport....picking a martial art that suits you will also depend on your body type and your mentality....
Are you short or tall? Solid thick build or thin?
Muscular? Athletic? Out of shape? Flexible?
Are you passive or agressive type of person?
Do you like to use your hands or kick? Or do you prefer to wrestle?
Are you choosing this to fight or just to get fit? Are you choosing this to Streetfight or maybe eventually fight in a ring?
If you had to choose one martial art.....I suggest you go around to different schools and see what you like best.....
A fighting system that may work for someone else may not necessarily work for you.....
But if you had to choose one martial art school, then choose an MMA school....Unfortunatly, there are not too many quality MMA schools in Toronto so you might have to go one school for one specific martial art and then go to another school to do another specific fighting system to get the full MMA experience (sort of....).....
Are you short or tall? Solid thick build or thin?
Muscular? Athletic? Out of shape? Flexible?
Are you passive or agressive type of person?
Do you like to use your hands or kick? Or do you prefer to wrestle?
Are you choosing this to fight or just to get fit? Are you choosing this to Streetfight or maybe eventually fight in a ring?
If you had to choose one martial art.....I suggest you go around to different schools and see what you like best.....
A fighting system that may work for someone else may not necessarily work for you.....
But if you had to choose one martial art school, then choose an MMA school....Unfortunatly, there are not too many quality MMA schools in Toronto so you might have to go one school for one specific martial art and then go to another school to do another specific fighting system to get the full MMA experience (sort of....).....
i've done almost all of the above...boxing, thai boxing, kali, jui-jutsu (lots of injuries!)...krav maga is just a fancy name for a combination of all of the above, throw in some weapon defenses. (plus cool quasi=military outfits)
the problem is all of the above are mostly sport based (meaning you train with some type of rules); you get in the habit of training with rules; what happens when you get in a fight with some pyscho who doesnt go by the "rules" via weapons, or multiple attackers = trouble for you
.(i've heard of too many stories off Jui-Juitsu guys pulling an attackers to the ground and then getting stomped by the attacker's friends and too many stories of intoxicated crack heads taking an insane beatings and not feeling anything until the next day; how is boxing going to stop him??)
Krav Maga and Kali fixed patterns with compliant attackers; on the street you try those fixed patterns against an non-compliant attacker..you are going to be in a world of hurt unless you are an expert.
from my experience if you are looking for street self defense; search for Jeet Kun Do in Toronto...closest thing you might find that has a mixture of all the above plus elements of "street fighting"...but also search for Senshido in Montreal (if this school was in TO i'd train there 24/7)
the problem is all of the above are mostly sport based (meaning you train with some type of rules); you get in the habit of training with rules; what happens when you get in a fight with some pyscho who doesnt go by the "rules" via weapons, or multiple attackers = trouble for you
.(i've heard of too many stories off Jui-Juitsu guys pulling an attackers to the ground and then getting stomped by the attacker's friends and too many stories of intoxicated crack heads taking an insane beatings and not feeling anything until the next day; how is boxing going to stop him??)
Krav Maga and Kali fixed patterns with compliant attackers; on the street you try those fixed patterns against an non-compliant attacker..you are going to be in a world of hurt unless you are an expert.
from my experience if you are looking for street self defense; search for Jeet Kun Do in Toronto...closest thing you might find that has a mixture of all the above plus elements of "street fighting"...but also search for Senshido in Montreal (if this school was in TO i'd train there 24/7)
Quit farking around with Karate and other nonsense like that and start weightlifting on a heavy cycle of steroids.
Didnt you watch 60 minutes Sunday, HGH and roids are becoming more medically accetpatble as now doctors are beginning to realize they're not the monsters they were made out to be in the 80's and 90's.
Ever felt a punch from a guy (or girl) that can bench 400 lbs plus????
And keep in mind the bench press motion is the same as a forward punch.
Ever wonder why most girls would lose a fight against most men????
Its because of the strength difference and not some silly Ju Jitsu bullshit technique.
My $ 0.02
Didnt you watch 60 minutes Sunday, HGH and roids are becoming more medically accetpatble as now doctors are beginning to realize they're not the monsters they were made out to be in the 80's and 90's.
Ever felt a punch from a guy (or girl) that can bench 400 lbs plus????
And keep in mind the bench press motion is the same as a forward punch.
Ever wonder why most girls would lose a fight against most men????
Its because of the strength difference and not some silly Ju Jitsu bullshit technique.
My $ 0.02
Oh and that post was for you women also, here's a chick that can bench over 400 lbs and can squat almost 600 lbs (all at a body weight of only 150 lbs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpw-NcYXDIQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH7-JeDEdLU
She armwrestles 200 lb guys for fun and beats them
I'm guessing she can beat the crap out of 80% of guys on this planet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpw-NcYXDIQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH7-JeDEdLU
She armwrestles 200 lb guys for fun and beats them
I'm guessing she can beat the crap out of 80% of guys on this planet
I expected a response like this. A good martial artist would be able take someone down in less than 1-2 seconds flat even a layman can do it by striking the person in the right "spot".
Esco! said:Oh and that post was for you women also, here's a chick that can bench over 400 lbs and can squat almost 600 lbs (all at a body weight of only 150 lbs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpw-NcYXDIQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH7-JeDEdLU
She armwrestles 200 lb guys for fun and beats them
I'm guessing she can beat the crap out of 80% of guys on this planet
You are correct my mistake. I haven't been folllowing UFC for awhile since Royce was a dominant fighter in his prime. This was like 5-10 years ago. He is old now. But for his size he was impressive. So you can revel in your up to date knowledge and pat yourself on your head 
There is no best martial art...but some do cater towards more of street fight than others.
There is no best martial art...but some do cater towards more of street fight than others.
Manji said:
It is really interesting to see the debate between the martial arts camp and the pumped up bodybuilder camp. I am in neither, being a short to average height out of shape fellow whose only exercise is that which his perogative gets not to.
In the late '60 our military unarmed combat for guys my size was bbasically taught as get in close, protect your vitals and take the hit on the way in but once in contact either gouge the eyes, chop the throat or rip his balls off. Not a very sophisticated program but it made us feel better.
The thing I'm going to in Oct teaches the latest SAS, US Spec forces and Russian unarmed combat and pistol disarming techniques. When I did a similar one a few years ago in far less depth the program was considerably more sophisticated than the late 60's but did not require extreme physical strength. instead it relied on a few fast moves and hits to the vulnerable part of the enemy.
If a stop posting after early Oct its because I either died or broke my arms.
In the late '60 our military unarmed combat for guys my size was bbasically taught as get in close, protect your vitals and take the hit on the way in but once in contact either gouge the eyes, chop the throat or rip his balls off. Not a very sophisticated program but it made us feel better.
The thing I'm going to in Oct teaches the latest SAS, US Spec forces and Russian unarmed combat and pistol disarming techniques. When I did a similar one a few years ago in far less depth the program was considerably more sophisticated than the late 60's but did not require extreme physical strength. instead it relied on a few fast moves and hits to the vulnerable part of the enemy.
If a stop posting after early Oct its because I either died or broke my arms.
Strongbeau said:
Its always a tough call, save the face or the bollocks???
We have had to sign off on lots of liability waivers as a fair bit of the course is live fire and knife exercises.
Tick said:
Not to hi-jack this thread, but for all you that saw Pride on Sunday, I really miss Bas' play by play. He's got so much personality and is like a little kid (in terms of excitement) when doing the commentary.
Esco! said:
Interesting. A couple weeks back I was watching some K1 matches on the fight network. One had a former wwf/wcw wrestler who thought he'd try his hand at the real stuff. Forget his name but he goes around 6'4" and about 280 lbs. He lasted about a minute into the second round before he got the crap kicked out of him. He was in against a japanese kickboxer that goes by the name of Musashi. Manji likely would be familiar with him.
btw .. The arm action used in a bench press isn't much at all like a proper karate punch.
xix said:
i studied Kali in TO for 2 years; and i would not recommend it...the EGOs there are insane; from the Instructor down...waste of $$$ and time
LancsLad said:
now that's street fighting...can i come to this seminar??? now that sounds like it's worth the time
If he was 6"4' and 280 he was at least 60 lbs overweight.revolver said:
All that extra weight would slow him down no matter who muscular he was.
And I'm not saying technique isnt important but the main emphasis should be on strength.
A few years ago some 5th degree black belt guy in Judo, Karate and who knows what else thought he could take on Ken Shamrock, he was all cocky and really thought his martial arts degree made him invisible (I forgot the guys name but he was on Inside Edition).
To make a long story short the guy got his butt kicked so bad it was almost laughable. Reason being he didnt have the strength to back up his skill.
Shamrock at the time could bench almost 500 lbs and squat 650 lbs (or so the rumors go).
So yes its good to have fighting skills but if you dont have the strength also it means little
Read what I wrote, I said the bench press action is the same as throwing a punchrevolver said:
