We live in the age of the internet, not in the 60s, or 70s. He will always be remembered for his deeds, even if it fades in time. Imagine 15-20 years from now, someone pointing him out as the guy that killed a family in a van. He will be paying all his life.
Marco Muzzo, what does he get?
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way to pay. 5 years and occasional finger pointing.We live in the age of the internet, not in the 60s, or 70s. He will always be remembered for his deeds, even if it fades in time. Imagine 15-20 years from now, someone pointing him out as the guy that killed a family in a van. He will be paying all his life.
I'm not blaming the dead. Ultimately, I'm pointing out that shit happens and sometimes it can be really horrible. I'm also pointing out that things could've been much worse and that they could've been caused by many things/people. You can't go back in time. You have to move forward.Way to subtly put blame on the dead. No.
This piece of crap does not get any sympathy because he "stayed at the scene". What kind of rationalization is that? He could have left sure. He also could have not been a piece of crap and killed people.
If it was your loving Mom who had one drink too many, what would you say? What if it was you instead of Muzzo?
He drove like that all the time, he just killed some people this time.I'm not blaming the dead. Ultimately, I'm pointing out that shit happens and sometimes it can be really horrible. I'm also pointing out that things could've been much worse and that they could've been caused by many things/people. You can't go back in time. You have to move forward.
If it was your loving Mom who had one drink too many, what would you say? What if it was you instead of Muzzo?
Do you know how many serious charges got dropped on this guy? Plenty and I know for a fact.
That's all I will say.
My intent is not to defend Muzzo. I'm not making my point that well... Our system has granted him day parole. The sheer hatred and vengeance is not helping anyone move forward with life.He drove like that all the time, he just killed some people this time.
Do you know how many serious charges got dropped on this guy? Plenty and I know for a fact.
That's all I will say.
I know that's not your intent.My intent is not to defend Muzzo. I'm not making my point that well... Our system has granted him day parole. The sheer hatred and vengeance is not helping anyone move forward with life.
A big part of how we perceive justice is retribution.
You want us to put ourselves in his shoes, I'm putting myself in the shoes of the family surviving this.
Trust me this was not a one off, a random mistake.
His family should take responsibility for getting him off the hook time and time again.
Just think about this: Muzzo got into one accident with that one car. Would we feel the same if the car he hit held only the elderly grandfather as opposed to one which included the little kids? How would we feel if there was no drinking involved? Did the elderly grandfather driving the vehicle not react fast-enough behind the wheel?
We all can rant and rave, but we have to remember that our justice system is based on re-education as opposed to punishment. Muzzo could've fled the country, but did not. He stayed at the scene and plead guilty. The results were horrible, .
Was about to say this pretty much.
Guys, I'm not trying to speak for Goodoer, but I think what he's trying to say, or at least this is what I'll say:
While what he did was a terrible thing, I'm reading comments that just aren't rational. "He should spend the rest of his life in jail" "he should be hung and quartered". People have to realize intent. He did not intend to wipe out an entire family. He did the exact same thing that literally hundreds of thousands of people do in the country every day. Yes it's that high. The difference is, his happened to be that stereotypical situation that we all fear and say "you could kill someone or wipe out an entire family". Impaired driving is the most common charge in our criminal system today. You can't solely judge someone because of the consequences of their mistake. You have to take into consideration the intent, and the commonality of that mistake. People who get caught and charged with this walk all the time, because the courts are so backed logged with more serious stuff they win on an 11B. Some don't win and lose there license for year or whatever it is, and pay through the nose for it. The reality is, these people are all making the exact same mistake, so you can't "hang and quart" someone and turned a blind eye to crazy amount of people that do this every day. Yes you can take into consideration the outcome of his particular situation, but it can't be the only factor when making a judgment. I understand the frustration and anger, but there is a much bigger picture and problem here. We live in a society where we've legalized two drugs. Alcohol and Cannabis. Then when people do stupid things because it's legal to ingest them, we blame them and put all the onus on them. There is a fundamental systemic problem here that is way bigger then Muzzo and what he did.
So while I feel horrible for the Neville-Lake family, you can't single out Muzzo and make him the poster child of drinking and driving.
While what he did was a terrible thing, I'm reading comments that just aren't rational. "He should spend the rest of his life in jail" "he should be hung and quartered". People have to realize intent. He did not intend to wipe out an entire family. He did the exact same thing that literally hundreds of thousands of people do in the country every day. Yes it's that high. The difference is, his happened to be that stereotypical situation that we all fear and say "you could kill someone or wipe out an entire family". Impaired driving is the most common charge in our criminal system today. You can't solely judge someone because of the consequences of their mistake. You have to take into consideration the intent, and the commonality of that mistake. People who get caught and charged with this walk all the time, because the courts are so backed logged with more serious stuff they win on an 11B. Some don't win and lose there license for year or whatever it is, and pay through the nose for it. The reality is, these people are all making the exact same mistake, so you can't "hang and quart" someone and turned a blind eye to crazy amount of people that do this every day. Yes you can take into consideration the outcome of his particular situation, but it can't be the only factor when making a judgment. I understand the frustration and anger, but there is a much bigger picture and problem here. We live in a society where we've legalized two drugs. Alcohol and Cannabis. Then when people do stupid things because it's legal to ingest them, we blame them and put all the onus on them. There is a fundamental systemic problem here that is way bigger then Muzzo and what he did.
So while I feel horrible for the Neville-Lake family, you can't single out Muzzo and make him the poster child of drinking and driving.
