Low balling.
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I mean, you have a point, not a good one, but a point. I just feel that it would ruin the date, not to mention a possible blacklist in the future. If I were to try and haggle the prices of the current SP that I visit often, she wouldn't appreciate it. Not to mention I can understand how annoying it is.
Meh, negotiation is a part of doing business.
I get it all the time in my business dealings. Even expect it. I don't get wound up about it. If I have a good client who is professional and good to work with and pays his invoices on time, I will play ball with him. No problem. Hell, I will throw in a few freebies and buy him dinner from time to time.
I've negotiated with my dentist, lawyer, various Contractors, etc. Usually it's working out an increase in scope as some sort of a package deal. Even the entire process of hiring someone is a negotiation. Same with raises.
No need to be offended as long as it's reasonable. Lowballing is not reasonable.
I get it all the time in my business dealings. Even expect it. I don't get wound up about it. If I have a good client who is professional and good to work with and pays his invoices on time, I will play ball with him. No problem. Hell, I will throw in a few freebies and buy him dinner from time to time.
I've negotiated with my dentist, lawyer, various Contractors, etc. Usually it's working out an increase in scope as some sort of a package deal. Even the entire process of hiring someone is a negotiation. Same with raises.
No need to be offended as long as it's reasonable. Lowballing is not reasonable.
One of the rare times I agree with jcpro. Don’t negotiate the hour or even the second hour. But repeat longer appointments should be open to discussion including fees. For the provider it’s like anything - the offer vs alternatives (eg: a safe, single guaranteed multi-hour appointment with a known client vs a potentially iffy string of appts with multiple clients). Of course I don’t say take it or leave it, but that goes both ways.
As i said, I only negotiate multi hours. And it's not a date, this is pay for play- a business transaction. And I assure you, it is for her- every time, 100%. In that setting why wouldn't one negotiate? Most of us negotiate everything else in our daily lives. This is no different.
Since this turned multi-hour negotiations, I won't negotiate as I have set my rates lower already for multi-hour. Only thing I will negotiate is overnights or vacays. As those rates are not on my site and they often are different for everyone so it is better to customize it to each client depending on our plan activities.
So if someone tried to negotiate a two hour for less then the $50 I have already taken off, I just decline the booking. Can't say it has happened yet but if it ever did, I would and it would be off-putting to be asked.
So if someone tried to negotiate a two hour for less then the $50 I have already taken off, I just decline the booking. Can't say it has happened yet but if it ever did, I would and it would be off-putting to be asked.
negotiating a ladies rate is like asking her to devalue what she feels shes worth...
if you want to see her..PAY the FEE
If you negotiate for a discount and she agrees then you shouldnt expect the same level of service you WOULD have got if you had paid the original rate
if you want you reduce what you're willing to pay then she has every right to reduce the effort she puts into the encounter...$X = X level of service...so in all fairness $X-10% = X-10% level of service and so on
you dont wanna pay her rate look for someone else who fits your budget
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if you want to see her..PAY the FEE
If you negotiate for a discount and she agrees then you shouldnt expect the same level of service you WOULD have got if you had paid the original rate
if you want you reduce what you're willing to pay then she has every right to reduce the effort she puts into the encounter...$X = X level of service...so in all fairness $X-10% = X-10% level of service and so on
you dont wanna pay her rate look for someone else who fits your budget
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The women that work in this city are spoiled rotten imho
They should travel and see what the prices are like across the country !! This is the economic Mecca of the country
So inexperienced Sp’s are straight away asking for $300 an hour and offering lacklustre service ! So many providers come on here and have a huge attitude about what they deserve and are entitled to ?? Wtf lol
Life is a negotiation period . They providers in this city want and expect everything in their favor so if some of the men stopped leading with the gold card maybe we wouldn’t be getting raped on hourly rates and shifty service . I don’t think there is really more than 5-6 top end providers in this city that deserves $300-$400 but hey that’s my opinion ! I’ve started to save and drive down to Montreal catch a game and hobby for a long weekend . Not a fan of when the frenchies come here but down there they know they have to compete so they will suck you dry multiple times and leave you completely satisfied. I never see SP HERE. Can you imagine that you have to give your work information to have a session what a fucking joke
They should travel and see what the prices are like across the country !! This is the economic Mecca of the country
So inexperienced Sp’s are straight away asking for $300 an hour and offering lacklustre service ! So many providers come on here and have a huge attitude about what they deserve and are entitled to ?? Wtf lol
Life is a negotiation period . They providers in this city want and expect everything in their favor so if some of the men stopped leading with the gold card maybe we wouldn’t be getting raped on hourly rates and shifty service . I don’t think there is really more than 5-6 top end providers in this city that deserves $300-$400 but hey that’s my opinion ! I’ve started to save and drive down to Montreal catch a game and hobby for a long weekend . Not a fan of when the frenchies come here but down there they know they have to compete so they will suck you dry multiple times and leave you completely satisfied. I never see SP HERE. Can you imagine that you have to give your work information to have a session what a fucking joke
Most providers in Toronto have $300-$400 for an hour is definetly steep for most people, but if that's how much a SP values herself, who am I to tell her she needs to change her amount to benefit ME. Not tryna sound like a white knight, but I feel providers will always have clients any day of the week if they have a great ass and perky tits, so why change the prices for me?
I'm the sort of person who will negotiate most things in life but when it comes to SPs, I think it's different as the service they're providing is much more personal and they have the right to dictate the fee for it much more than, say, someone selling cars.
Plus, if an SP is too highly priced, the market will let her know very quickly thanks to review boards like this one. So for that reason I've never negotiated with an SP and never will.
Even looking aside all that, though. Negotiating for an SP has always felt dumb to me.
When you negotiate for a physical product, that physical product doesn't get offended and lessen its quality because you haggled for a lower price.
But when haggling with an SP for her time and services, what's to say she won't feel slighted by you and give you a shittier time than she would've if you just paid up?
Plus, if an SP is too highly priced, the market will let her know very quickly thanks to review boards like this one. So for that reason I've never negotiated with an SP and never will.
Even looking aside all that, though. Negotiating for an SP has always felt dumb to me.
When you negotiate for a physical product, that physical product doesn't get offended and lessen its quality because you haggled for a lower price.
But when haggling with an SP for her time and services, what's to say she won't feel slighted by you and give you a shittier time than she would've if you just paid up?
Yes, and it is the main reason not to negotiate. Not because "if she agrees for $x-10%, she is entitled to give 90% effort". If she agrees for x-10%, she must still give 100% effort (otherwise she lied when she agrees for 90% money). But she will, indeed, give 90%, or even less effort. So, negotiation simply does not work since SPs never negotiate in good faith. F-k the "independents" (in non-literal sense) with their inflated prices and entitled attitudes, and go f-k (in literal sense) young agency girls. Give them an extra $20-$50 tip if you like them and see them again for an even better time. But never negotiate - nothing good will ever come from negotiation the price with an SP.
It depends on your financial situations. Several years ago when I was broke and lived in Alberta when the oil prices crashed. I lost my job in the oil industry. So when three of my all time favourites (ATF) toured my city in Alberta, I asked them nicely whether they could see me for major discounts... All three ladies said yes to me.
So the first lady, I saw her for either $50 - $70 and her usual rates at that time was at 300 / hour. Now her rate is at 350 - 400 / hour. She is an independent provider from Montreal. She is very beautiful and lovely lady. All I can say to her is "Je Taime".
For the second lady, I saw her for either $0 or $50 and her usual rates at the agency was at 280 / hour. She was from another city in Alberta. She is very lovely young girl with great personality.
For the third lady, I saw her at 120 / half hour and her usual rates were at 200 / half hour and 300 / hour. She used to work for agencies and then she was an independent provider. She is from Montreal and is now living / working in Toronto. She is very hot looking blonde lady with pretty much perfect and natural body.
So from my experience, it depends on your financial situation. You can ask the ladies nicely. Many times, they would say yes to you if you already have seen them before.
So the first lady, I saw her for either $50 - $70 and her usual rates at that time was at 300 / hour. Now her rate is at 350 - 400 / hour. She is an independent provider from Montreal. She is very beautiful and lovely lady. All I can say to her is "Je Taime".
For the second lady, I saw her for either $0 or $50 and her usual rates at the agency was at 280 / hour. She was from another city in Alberta. She is very lovely young girl with great personality.
For the third lady, I saw her at 120 / half hour and her usual rates were at 200 / half hour and 300 / hour. She used to work for agencies and then she was an independent provider. She is from Montreal and is now living / working in Toronto. She is very hot looking blonde lady with pretty much perfect and natural body.
So from my experience, it depends on your financial situation. You can ask the ladies nicely. Many times, they would say yes to you if you already have seen them before.
Thanks for the brag. So the oil patch craps out and roughnecks and tradesmen who were making over $100,000 a year should expect sexual handouts because they were too stupid to do anything but live paycheque to paycheque. Not saying you were one of those, but still a fucking lame story. The financial collapse in 2008 was bad. didn't have anything invested personally, but still....I need me a woman at a crack whore discount.
