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Looks like another Dangerous Criminal will be out on the streets soon: Top5's Murder case collapses.

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Damn, I hate that the article is behind a paywall :ROFLMAO: Ya definitely not a good thing that he is back on the streets and even more importantly he's emboldened by beating a first degree murder charge. I give it about two week before he's in the news again. He's a pretty brazen character.
The video released. Very humble guy right? :rolleyes:


All I got to say is be safe in Toronto, because there will be heavy tension between gangs with the city's #1 instigator back.
 
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I'm not even trying to be funny. If he goes free, we most likely will see a shit load of shooting.


What a fucking stupid Judge. He must have been paid off.
Damn, I hate that the article is behind a paywall :ROFLMAO: Ya definitely not a good thing that he is back on the streets and even more importantly he's emboldened by beating a first degree murder charge. I give it about two week before he's in the news again. He's a pretty brazen character.
Thug Fraud, Long Done Dong Tory are you no good for nothings shooting your mouths off again about something you really know fuck all about?
 

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I'm not even trying to be funny. If he goes free, we most likely will see a shit load of shooting.


What a fucking stupid Judge. He must have been paid off.
I fucking hate that kid. The Canadian justice system is garbage
 

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Damn! No wonder he got released. His lawyer is Gary Grill. One of the best defense attorneys in the city. Probably going to file a lawsuit for malicious prosecution if I know Gary. Seriously, if you're ever in trouble and can afford him Gary will get you off 98% of the time guilty or innocent.
Apparently Drake paid for that lawyer for him lol
 

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Next time we see this fool, he`ll probably be dead on the ground, full of bullets. I heard Alan Cross say the mortality rate in Hip Hop and Rap is 51%, far more than any other genre of music. Gun deaths obviously.
 

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So nothing?

What dead kid did he get murdered? The one he just left jail for? So you convicted him in the court of Smith_86? You don't think he deserves the benefit of the doubt if the justice system didn't convict him of anything? Technically it looks more like an innocent man just spent 3 years behind bars in the prime of his life. You not liking him doesn't make him guilty of anything. Maybe there is a bit of jealousy here or something? :unsure: 🤷‍♂️ 🤷‍♂️
Innocent men don't cut their ankle monitor and flee to the States with a fake id.

But besides that, he is a violent crime instigator.
 

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To be fair you have no idea the circumstances behind him taking that action and one might argue that yes they do. Now if he is totally innocent(which for the record I have my doubts about but that's another subject) and realized that he was going to be railroaded by the justice system which he would have been using a public defender then yes, fleeing while innocent would be an act of self preservation. For the record at one point he was desperate enough to contemplate defending himself in court(bad idea). Obviously Drake took pity on him and helped him out resulting in a fair case being fought. It's not what you know, it's what you can prove and clearly they couldn't prove shit. If anything you should be mad at the prosecutor for not doing a better job but then again, they didn't know they would be up against Gary Grill.

Now I'm not saying this guy doesn't live a violent lifestyle(which will eventually catch up to him) but he fought his fight in court and won so anyone trying to convict him based on their opinion of him is wrong and unjust. Why not settle on the fact that karma will likely catch up with him when the time is right instead of finding him guilty when a court could not prove that he was. Literally all they had to do is flip one of his associates to testify on him and they probably could have won. It's the prosecution that dropped the ball here. If you are mad at anyone it should be them. 🤷‍♂️
The thing is he doesn't live a violent lifestyle. He just instigates it. That's what makes him worse.

So he can go hide out in Calgary or Vancouver like these cowards usually do and start gang wars in Toronto.
 

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To be fair you don't know him personally so speculating on what he does or doesn't do is just that, speculation. For all we know he personally has 3 bodies. I'm not saying he's a good guy and I'm not saying he was innocent in his case but the court did what they could and failed so to be fair we can only assume he is innocent. At least in this instance. Maybe, and it's a big maybe but he could have learned from this experience and may change his ways. 3 years in the can is a long time and he might not be in a hurry to go threw that again. Only time will tell.
Clearly you are not familiar with top5 or the Toronto rap scene.
 

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:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Sorry bro but actually I am. I know plenty about the GGG like the fact they robbed Dj Drama, I know top5's brother foolish was killed by a leg shot in the shoppers drug mart parking lot I know houdini was murdered and why I know plenty but I'm not going to sit here and list facts about the toronto rap scene but I'm very, very curious. How do you know what I know? Like seriously, what would make you suddenly familiar with the knowledge base in my head? Up until that statement you seemed like a smart, level headed guy but telling me what I KNOW is kinda crazy tbh. That's like me telling you that you know nothing about marvel comics. How the fuck would I know what you know about? Like seriously.
Anybody can google info. It's being able to put it all together that makes you understand.

You have the info, but you don't understand. That's why you question.

This is a guy that puts lives at risk.
 
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Sitting here trading 'rap facts' with you would be stupid and pointless. Nothing I said came from google, all from first hand knowledge. Have you seen the video of top5 wearing a bra? What do I not understand? Does top5 put lives at risk? Sure, including his own. He's a drill rapper, that's his job. If he was a conscious rapper like j cole we wouldn't be having this convo. What's your point here? I'm quite well aware of top5, flippa and his botched hit on a mobster duvy, bvlly, sizlac, and dozens of other rappers from toronto past and present and beyond. It's a dirty grimy business but it is what it is. Telling me I know nothing is entirely false and it makes you not look smart to say that.
The point is there is no giving this guy a benefit of a doubt. No excuses for him.

There is no being fair with people like him.
 

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So you don't at all believe that people can change? Now I'm not saying he's going to. In fact, probably not. But you don't think 3 years in the can has the potential to change a persons perspective? Do you really think he's in a hurry to go back? It's also provincial jail which is way harder than the pen. I think he'll likely still be the same 'shirt off in your city', 'get the burner broski' asshole that he has always been but I also think he will move more carefully this time around. He lost 3 years at the height of his fame and progress. I seriously doubt he's ready to do it all again any time soon.
Oh yea. for sure it sounds like he's a changed man.
 
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