LIVE: Kiev mass riots

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Hey, the Ukrainian and Russian tanks might still roll sometime after the Olympics; especially if the protesters do not disband as even the Europeans want. Everybody remember
Hungary in 1956? Are times different? Maybe.
 

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Hey, the Ukrainian and Russian tanks might still roll sometime after the Olympics; especially if the protesters do not disband as even the Europeans want. Everybody remember
Hungary in 1956? Are times different? Maybe.
Europeans don't want the protesters disband anymore. Europeans now realize that the president has blood on his hands and must be removed and prosecuted. http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/leaders/article4010571.ece

Ukrainian tanks will not roll against Ukrainian people. The president at this point seems to be losing and his rats are leaving his sinking ship.
 

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Europeans don't want the protesters disband anymore. Europeans now realize that the president has blood on his hands and must be removed and prosecuted. http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/leaders/article4010571.ece

Ukrainian tanks will not roll against Ukrainian people. The president at this point seems to be losing and his rats are leaving his sinking ship.
That's not news, it's an opinion. Looks like you believe everything you read. The latest rumour is that Yanukovtch has gone to Eastern Ukraine where he's going to meet with the representatives of the Eastern and Southern provinces, and they are going to talk about partition. So Ukraine may face a break-up. Good job protestors, undermining the rule of law and the constitution.
 

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That's not news, it's an opinion. Looks like you believe everything you read. The latest rumour is that Yanukovtch has gone to Eastern Ukraine where he's going to meet with the representatives of the Eastern and Southern provinces, and they are going to talk about partition. So Ukraine may face a break-up. Good job protestors, undermining the rule of law and the constitution.
President is on the run. His whereabouts are unknown. His mansion is taken by the protesters.
http://zyalt.livejournal.com/1007568.html
Eastern and southern politicians are now told by Ukrainian oligarchs to not get involved with splitting the country. The country will not be split. Splitting is apparently bad for business. Protesters won and the people won and and fuck the rule of law which was corrupted.
 
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The latest rumour is that Yanukovtch has gone to Eastern Ukraine where he's going to meet with the representatives of the Eastern and Southern provinces, and they are going to talk about partition. So Ukraine may face a break-up.
If so politically at least that might very well be best for all involved.
 

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If so politically at least that might very well be best for all involved.
Not going to happen. New security and interior affairs (ie ex KGB and cops) bosses announced that separatists will be prosecuted as criminals. Oligarchs are supporting the unity of the state. It's going real bad for the president and his friends.
 

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Update - parliament voted for the resolution on self removal of President from performing duties and appointed a new elections on May 25.

It's done.
 

Aardvark154

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Not going to happen. New security and interior affairs (ie ex KGB and cops) bosses announced that separatists will be prosecuted as criminals. Oligarchs are supporting the unity of the state. It's going real bad for the president and his friends.
Next the riots start in the eastern part of the country. It is an inherently unstable situation.
 

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Next the riots start in the eastern part of the country. It is an inherently unstable situation.
No they will not. Not motivated enough to shed blood. Very simple. Quite apart from it, their own members of parliament and oligarchs with media will be stopping them.
 

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Look What Was Found In Yanukovych's Compound






"It's good to be king"
 

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No they will not. Not motivated enough to shed blood. Very simple. Quite apart from it, their own members of parliament and oligarchs with media will be stopping them.
Depends on whether the ethnic Ukraine leadership want to take revenge on the ethnic Russians.
 

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She's out, she's out, she's out! Yuila Tymoshenko, has been released.


But, boy does she look ill!
People are not happy about her attempts to immediately go back to politics. People are very much alive to the fact that she was a pert of the old system and made billions in a very short time and barely dodged the bullet at Lazarenko money laundering trial in US.
https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1619452_293851164096872_758161760_n.jpg
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The EU is accusing the Opposition of breaking the deal with Yanukovitch. Plus the Opposition have lost control of the rioters a few days ago and the latter are threatening to storm the parliament unless Yanukovitch resigns. Before countries are allowed into the EU, they have to show that they deserve it by having a stable system that respects the rule of law. Not off to a good start, as Ukraine is on the verge of anarchy and break-up.

Europe cannot function without the supply of Russian gas. Even during the cold war, the Soviet Union never interrupted the supply. Some now see an unstable Ukraine as a potential threat to secure supplies of gas to Europe. In retrospect, not so good now for the EU to have meddled in the internal affairs of Ukraine and destabilized the country by inciting and abetting the violent overthrow of a sovereign state.
 

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People are not happy about her attempts to immediately go back to politics. People are very much alive to the fact that she was a pert of the old system and made billions in a very short time and barely dodged the bullet at Lazarenko money laundering trial in US.
I have something else I'm involved with at present (so without researching it) I rather suspect that this comes from the Pro-Russian side of things.
 

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I have something else I'm involved with at present (so without researching it) I rather suspect that this comes from the Pro-Russian side of things.
The whole country needs a top to bottom purge of anyone who is involved with politics, organized crime or shady business. The remaining 10% inhabitants who survive the purge can then get on with making a real democracy.
 

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I have something else I'm involved with at present (so without researching it) I rather suspect that this comes from the Pro-Russian side of things.
It's the exact opposite.

Tymoshenko's alleged connections with Moscow in the past and accusations of corruption may become an obstacle on her way to reestablishing her leadership.

In 2008, a top Ukrainian oligarch, Dmytro Firtash, spoke to the US ambassador to Ukraine describing her “as an accomplished oligarch who had made deals with Moscow,” according to a US diplomatic cable leaked by WikiLeaks.

“Firtash referred to Tymoshenko's title of "gas princess" as a misnomer; he explained that Tymoshenko did make lots of money off of a corrupt, perpetual gas debt scheme during the 1990s, but she knew nothing about the gas business,” the cable read.
 
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