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roddermac

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Depends on the issue. El Salvador has done well with crime. Poland has done well with illegal immigration. Argentina is too soon to tell, but lets see what happens.

Edited because my first response excluded the "why". It's simple.

El Salvador clamped down on crime. Poland clamped down on immigration. Argentina is clamping down on socialism.

Sometimes, the people just have to say, "that's fucking enough".

If only the American people would say that to Israel. I'm sure you can appreciate that.
Hungary has done well too and I believe that Sweden will be doing so.
 

Frankfooter

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Who said anything about austerity? That's you putting words in other people's mouths again.

We pay enough taxes. The solution can't be to just keep paying more taxes. That hasn't been working.

We need to stop governments bribing us with our own money just to remain in power. It's unsustainable & stupid.
Wow, so you don't even know the name of the movement you've been backing here for years.

You don't even realize that we've been living through 40 years of cuts, deregulation and lower taxes and that is what has made things shittier everywhere.
All it did was allow the rich to get richer.

 

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Open your heart, Skoob. Can't you pay a little more? Those braised lamb shanks don't come cheap on a plane.

Think of the cost to cater so many gourmet meals on a transatlantic flight. JT and his entourage have to eat!
Skoob would need a job first.
 

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Depends on the issue. El Salvador has done well with crime. Poland has done well with illegal immigration. Argentina is too soon to tell, but lets see what happens.

Edited because my first response excluded the "why". It's simple.

El Salvador clamped down on crime. Poland clamped down on immigration. Argentina is clamping down on socialism.

Sometimes, the people just have to say, "that's fucking enough".

If only the American people would say that to Israel. I'm sure you can appreciate that.
And does that make those countries you'd rather live in?
Has it fixed poverty, inflation or high housing costs?

All of those places had higher crime rates than Canada to begin with, didn't they?
 

Skoob

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Open your heart, Skoob. Can't you pay a little more? Those braised lamb shanks don't come cheap on a plane.

Think of the cost to cater so many gourmet meals on a transatlantic flight. JT and his entourage have to eat!
Let's remove the hypocritical Liberals from this conversation. They have their own rules.

We hit paying "a little more" many years ago. We're now into "give us everything with nothing in return" territory.
 

Skoob

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Wow, so you don't even know the name of the movement you've been backing here for years.

You don't even realize that we've been living through 40 years of cuts, deregulation and lower taxes and that is what has made things shittier everywhere.
All it did was allow the rich to get richer.
Lower taxes? hahahahahahahaha You must have started drinking your Sobey's wine early today!
The amount I have been paying in taxes has gone up every year of my life. I have paid more in taxes in the last year than I have ever paid.

I guess you're back to the misinformation spreading part of the program again.

That's funny! Lol!
 
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Skoob

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And does that make those countries you'd rather live in?
Has it fixed poverty, inflation or high housing costs?

All of those places had higher crime rates than Canada to begin with, didn't they?
Tell us about Venezuela. How did that work out? Last I checked they have the highest crime rate in the world.

You know...the "Socialist" party that convinced everyone they weren't Communists but rather "Bolivarian".
 

roddermac

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Tell us about Venezuela. How did that work out? Last I checked they have the highest crime rate in the world.

You know...the "Socialist" party that convinced everyone they weren't Communists but rather "Bolivarian".
Ecuador as well.
 

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Lower taxes? hahahahahahahaha You must have started drinking your Sobey's wine early today!
The amount I have been paying in taxes has gone up every year of my life. I have paid more in taxes in the last year than I have ever paid.

I guess you're back to the misinformation spreading part of the program again.

That's funny! Lol!
My bad, I forget that you're not rich and that your crappy security guard job puts you in the target demographic.
The tax breaks were only for the rich, never for you.

 

Frankfooter

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Tell us about Venezuela. How did that work out? Last I checked they have the highest crime rate in the world.

You know...the "Socialist" party that convinced everyone they weren't Communists but rather "Bolivarian".
Venezuela pissed of the US, they backed a coup to take their oil off the market.

The model I support is more along Denmark or EU countries, skoob.
The model you support gave you Brexit and the UK, its giving you shit in the US and now its giving away public assets here in Ontario.

You really need to look at what you think is successful.

 

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do a comparison and tell us which is doing better
So that's the bar for you? If we're marginally doing better than the UK then Trudeau is great. What a silly proposition.
 

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I wonder if the libitards and the NDP will merge over the summer.
I wouldn't necessarily rule that out. Simply because the NDP is bankrupt....both financially and morally.
 
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Frankfooter

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So that's the bar for you? If we're marginally doing better than the UK then Trudeau is great. What a silly proposition.
All I ask is that you look at countries that have put in place the policies you back and see if they worked or not.
That's too much to ask?
 

Skoob

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My bad, I forget that you're not rich and that your crappy security guard job puts you in the target demographic.
The tax breaks were only for the rich, never for you.
You actually tried to actually convince people here that we pay less taxes now than ever before?
OMFG that's hilarious!
 

Frankfooter

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You actually tried to actually convince people here that we pay less taxes now than ever before?
OMFG that's hilarious!
The rich pay less taxes, skoob.
That's what makes you an easy mark, you think taxes are going up for everyone but its just the middle and lower classes.

 

Skoob

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Venezuela pissed of the US, they backed a coup to take their oil off the market.

The model I support is more along Denmark or EU countries, skoob.
The model you support gave you Brexit and the UK, its giving you shit in the US and now its giving away public assets here in Ontario.

You really need to look at what you think is successful.
Yet the US has the highest immigration in the world. Why would that be?
If Denmark was the "promised land" why wouldn't people want to immigrate there?
 

Skoob

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The rich pay less taxes, skoob.
That's what makes you an easy mark, you think taxes are going up for everyone but its just the middle and lower classes.
You mean when you look at the amount of money a rich person pays in taxes, it's less than what a poorer person pays?
Is that you "new" math?
 
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