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Kautilya

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If he was found guilty of a crime in criminal court he would be in jail and a convicted criminal.
if a civil court sides with a plaintiff that doesn't mean a crime was committed in the eyes of the law. It means the plaintiff convinced the court that their version of events was more reliable than the defendant and damages are owed. No need to convince a judge beyond a reasonable doubt as in criminal court. No criminal record etc.

So I'll ask you again...why didn't these cases go to criminal court?
Civil cases go to civil court. Criminal cases go to criminal court. That is irrelevant.

What s relevant is that Trump was tried and was found to be guilty of violating the law.

Hence the following 2 statements are true:

a) It is not the democrats who are responsible per your original claim. This is Trump's own doing.
b) You have adopted a morally corrupt position to support a rapist and a fraudster.
 

Skoob

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Civil cases go to civil court. Criminal cases go to criminal court. That is irrelevant.

What s relevant is that Trump was tried and was found to be guilty of violating the law.

Hence the following 2 statements are true:

a) It is not the democrats who are responsible per your original claim. This is Trump's own doing.
b) You have adopted a morally corrupt position to support a rapist and a fraudster.
It's absolutely not irrelevant. Two different types of courts. Two different ways to reach verdicts. Two different types of punishments.

Anyone can convince someone to pursue a civil court case. If you think the Dems are not influencing any of this you are naive.

If Trump was charged with violating the law that would be a criminal case. The verdict would be "guilty". No such verdict was passed in civil court.
It's really not that difficult to understand facts if you let go of your hatred and bias.

So?????

Why weren't these cases tried in criminal court? (this is at least the 3rd time I've asked you this question and you are bending over backwards to avoid answering it)
 

Frankfooter

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Not quite.
And what does DoFo have to do with this? Is that your DoFo Tourettes Syndrome kicking in?
Criminal vs civil court verdicts imply different things. That's the law. You pick & choose when the law supports your narrative or not.

For example I can take you to civil court and sue you because I think you are causing harm to me for continually bombarding me with misinformation. Does that instantly make you a criminal? If you settle with me out of court does that make you a criminal? Will it go on your record if you lose the lawsuit?
No.

Now go build your tent! hahaha
Dude, rump is paying over $10 million for rape and lying about rape.
He's in court for trying to claim paying off Stormy was a business expense, not an electoral expense.
His business has been found guilty of fraud, his charity disbanded for fraud.
He's going to stand trial for stealing top secret docs and trying to start a coup.

For you to argue that he's not a criminal is the most weak, pedantic, ass licking shite possible.
He's a corrupt POS, a total moron and a rapey lying with orange makeup.

Wait a second, no wonder he's your alpha male role model.
You're like a wimpy, failed version of rump.
 

Kautilya

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It's absolutely not irrelevant. Two different types of courts. Two different ways to reach verdicts. Two different types of punishments.

Anyone can convince someone to pursue a civil court case. If you think the Dems are not influencing any of this you are naive.

If Trump was charged with violating the law that would be a criminal case. The verdict would be "guilty". No such verdict was passed in civil court.
It's really not that difficult to understand facts if you let go of your hatred and bias.

So?????

Why weren't these cases tried in criminal court? (this is at least the 3rd time I've asked you this question and you are bending over backwards to avoid answering it)
Is rape, fraud and defamation unlawful? Yes. Did Trump violate those laws? Yes. Did the courts say he violated the law? Yes.

He is guilty.

None of this is the dems doing. This is the chickens coming home to roost for Trump.
 

Skoob

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Dude, rump is paying over $10 million for rape and lying about rape.
He's in court for trying to claim paying off Stormy was a business expense, not an electoral expense.
His business has been found guilty of fraud, his charity disbanded for fraud.
He's going to stand trial for stealing top secret docs and trying to start a coup.

For you to argue that he's not a criminal is the most weak, pedantic, ass licking shite possible.
He's a corrupt POS, a total moron and a rapey lying with orange makeup.

Wait a second, no wonder he's your alpha male role model.
You're like a wimpy, failed version of rump.
...and has never been charged in a criminal court or gone to jail.
Must bug you...and for that, I commend him for fighting the lefty forces of evil.

btw speaking about the Trump charity...remember Cuomo going after Trump tooth and nail...only later to face sexual misconduct allegations so bad that Biden begged him to resign? hahah you fucking lefty hypocrites always fall on your faces.
 

Skoob

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Is rape, fraud and defamation unlawful? Yes. Did Trump violate those laws? Yes. Did the courts say he violated the law? Yes.

He is guilty.

None of this is the dems doing. This is the chickens coming home to roost for Trump.
No. He was never found guilty of rape. People found guilty of rape go to prison. People found guilty of rape get a criminal record.

Now let's try a 4th time shall we...why didn't he go to criminal court? (the more you avoid answering that question the more ignorant you look)
 

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...and has never been charged in a criminal court or gone to jail.
Must bug you...and for that, I commend him for fighting the lefty forces of evil.

btw speaking about the Trump charity...remember Cuomo going after Trump tooth and nail...only later to face sexual misconduct allegations so bad that Biden begged him to resign? hahah you fucking lefty hypocrites always fall on your faces.
Skoobypoo, you are hilarious.
Soon you'll be declaring only sentences of over 1 year count, only fines for rape that are bigger than $15 million count. That Trump Org being shut down for fraud doesn't count and only personal fraud counts.

You're such a clown!

Own it, you back a corrupt, POS moron because he's just like you but successful and you want to be just like him.

 

kherg007

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Didnt Napoleon die a weak, lonely man on some island somewhere?

You fail to realize that Ukraine has absolutely no chance of winning without NATO troops and the USA is blowing up the USA economy by printing money to fund this charade. And you know who has to pay for it down the road? Taxpayers.
Napoleon took over most of Europe. He overshot then was exiled as punishment.
61 billion USA pesos. A drop in the bucket. 1/40th of the lend lease to the UK in wwii (adjusting for inflation).
It's clear putin would go after the Baltic states next. He's said it - restore the ussr. Then NATO is engaged AND US troops and that will cost a shit ton more to the US taxpayers. Fail Ukraine means that china says its free time on taiwan. Dont forget tough guy trump sat back whilst china snuffed out democracy in hong kong. Sat back whilst all the nation's in Asia had to start accommodating chinese imperialism because Trump sat back after trashing the TPP.
 

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Skoobypoo, you are hilarious.
Soon you'll be declaring only sentences of over 1 year count, only fines for rape that are bigger than $15 million count. That Trump Org being shut down for fraud doesn't count and only personal fraud counts.

You're such a clown!

Own it, you back a corrupt, POS moron because he's just like you but successful and you want to be just like him.
Has he been sentenced to anything? Nope. Maybe in your own Marxist banana-court mind?
I wonder how Carrol is spending that money she was bragging about winning?...You know like legitimate rape victims brag.
 

Frankfooter

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Has he been sentenced to anything? Nope. Maybe in your own Marxist banana-court mind?
I wonder how Carrol is spending that money she was bragging about winning?...You know like legitimate rape victims brag.
Comedy gold!

'He hasn't been sentenced to anything'.
'He hasn't been put behind bars'.

He's been found guilty in so many cases, skoobypoo.
You're alpha male, POS hero is failing at everything now.

Those goal posts keep moving further into the mud every day.
 

Kautilya

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No. He was never found guilty of rape. People found guilty of rape go to prison. People found guilty of rape get a criminal record.

Now let's try a 4th time shall we...why didn't he go to criminal court? (the more you avoid answering that question the more ignorant you look)
He was found guilty of defamation and sexual abuse. You know why? Because in New York, one needs to penetrate with a penis and not a finger which is what Trump used. Of course forcible penetration with a finger IS rape, except for its legal definition in NY.

That is called, getting off on a technicality.

However, even a Judge agrees that Trump is a rapist.

So tell me, did the Democrats force Trump to forcefully put his finger up E. Jean Caroll's vagina? No. This was Trump's doing. So stop blaming the dems.

Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll

A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.

Kaplan said New York’s legal definition of “rape” is “far narrower” than the word is understood in “common modern parlance.”

The former requires forcible, unconsented-to penetration with one’s penis. But he said that the conduct the jury effectively found Trump liable for — forced digital penetration — meets a more common definition of rape. He cited definitions offered by the American Psychological Association and the Justice Department, which in 2012 expanded its definition of rape to include penetration “with any body part or object.”

“Mr. Trump’s attempt to minimize the sexual abuse finding as perhaps resting on nothing more than groping of Ms. Carroll’s breasts through her clothing is frivolous,” Kaplan wrote.
He added that the jury clearly found that Trump had “ ‘raped’ her in the sense of that term broader than the New York Penal Law definition.”
 

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Judge Merchan is another biased loser judge......LMAO


Judge Juan Merchan is threatening to gag President Trump so that Trump cannot discuss how Matthew Colangelo was deployed from the Biden Justice Department to work with Alvin Bragg. Judge Merchan does not want President Trump publicly talking about his clear judicial bias and why he should recuse from this case because of the obvious financial stake from the judge’s daughter, Loren Merchan. Democrats running this lawfare don’t care. Their entire point is to get a felony conviction of President Trump before the election. Thanks to
@JackPosobiec
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@HumanEvents
for having me.
 

Skoob

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Comedy gold!

'He hasn't been sentenced to anything'.
'He hasn't been put behind bars'.

He's been found guilty in so many cases, skoobypoo.
You're alpha male, POS hero is failing at everything now.

Those goal posts keep moving further into the mud every day.
The only ones who are failing are the Dems in their quest to prevent him from running for office.
Maybe if you understood how the law works you wouldn't believe someone can be found "guilty" in civil court.
But you seem to overlook the law and everything else when it doesn't jive with your narrative.

btw How's your tent building going?
 
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Skoob

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He was found guilty of defamation and sexual abuse. You know why? Because in New York, one needs to penetrate with a penis and not a finger which is what Trump used. Of course forcible penetration with a finger IS rape, except for its legal definition in NY.

That is called, getting off on a technicality.

However, even a Judge agrees that Trump is a rapist.

So tell me, did the Democrats force Trump to forcefully put his finger up E. Jean Caroll's vagina? No. This was Trump's doing. So stop blaming the dems.

Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll

A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.

Kaplan said New York’s legal definition of “rape” is “far narrower” than the word is understood in “common modern parlance.”

The former requires forcible, unconsented-to penetration with one’s penis. But he said that the conduct the jury effectively found Trump liable for — forced digital penetration — meets a more common definition of rape. He cited definitions offered by the American Psychological Association and the Justice Department, which in 2012 expanded its definition of rape to include penetration “with any body part or object.”

“Mr. Trump’s attempt to minimize the sexual abuse finding as perhaps resting on nothing more than groping of Ms. Carroll’s breasts through her clothing is frivolous,” Kaplan wrote.
He added that the jury clearly found that Trump had “ ‘raped’ her in the sense of that term broader than the New York Penal Law definition.”
Asking me questions when you have refused multiple times to answer my simple question?

Let's try again...I like watching you make a fool of yourself...Why wasn't he tried in criminal court?

What are you so afraid of that you tap dance to avoid answering that question?
 
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Kautilya

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Asking me questions when you have refused multiple times to answer my simple question?

Let's try again...I like watching you make a fool of yourself...Why wasn't he tried in criminal court?

What are you so afraid of that you tap dance to avoid answering that question?
I did not ask you any questions. It was rhetorical and I provided the answer in my post.

Let us stay focused on your actual criticism - that Trump is being railroaded by the Dems, for no fault of his.

I just showed you how he is actually a rapist, fraud and criminal, who is going through these cases because of his own doing. The dems had nothing to do with it.
 

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Napoleon took over most of Europe. He overshot then was exiled as punishment.
61 billion USA pesos. A drop in the bucket. 1/40th of the lend lease to the UK in wwii (adjusting for inflation).
It's clear putin would go after the Baltic states next. He's said it - restore the ussr. Then NATO is engaged AND US troops and that will cost a shit ton more to the US taxpayers. Fail Ukraine means that china says its free time on taiwan. Dont forget tough guy trump sat back whilst china snuffed out democracy in hong kong. Sat back whilst all the nation's in Asia had to start accommodating chinese imperialism because Trump sat back after trashing the TPP.
Napoleon sounds a lot like Hitlers path with the only difference Hitler taking his own life in the end.

China will take Taiwan.
 

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The only ones who are failing are the Dems in their quest to prevent him from running for office.
Maybe if you understood how the law works you wouldn't believe someone can be found "guilty" in civil court.
But you seem to overlook the law and everything else when it doesn't jive with your narrative.

btw How's your tent building going?
Of course he should run, he lost the last one, was impeached twice, found to be a rapist and is a senile, corrupt, POS.
He's the perfect leader for you, he represents everything you stand for.

 

Frankfooter

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Asking me questions when you have refused multiple times to answer my simple question?

Let's try again...I like watching you make a fool of yourself...Why wasn't he tried in criminal court?

What are you so afraid of that you tap dance to avoid answering that question?
He's being tried in a criminal court right now, skoobypoo.
Where are you going to move the goal posts after this one?

 
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