What facts? There weren't any facts or witnesses.You made up your own story!
Neither rump or Carroll said that was possible, skoobit, so you made up your own bullshit.
It really does epitimoze everything you post here.
Ignore facts and make up your own bullshit then declare you won the debate again.
I summarized my belief as to what happened. Since only those two were actually there, no one else would know for sure.