Leg lengthening surgery. Help me decide.
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OK here is a " after" synopsis.......
... you can get some " after stories" at the site MMT ( make me taller). One guy a year after the process ran into an ex-girlfriend at some group of friend's gathering. He is 28 yrs. He WAS 2" shorter than her & NOW 2" taller. She asks what happened to get taller. She is baffled. He plays dumb & says he had a late growth spurt. She says nobody in their late 20's gets a late growth spurt... he shruggs & says ... he ain't no doctor. SHE SAYS ... well you look real nice. Another guy at a party runs into 3 girls that were always just friends.... hasn't seen them in just over a year . They never showed him any interest. During the party on 3 seperate occasions these girls each had flirted with him. Before they never showed him any interest. He also gained 4". There is some other stories in the diaries.
... you can get some " after stories" at the site MMT ( make me taller). One guy a year after the process ran into an ex-girlfriend at some group of friend's gathering. He is 28 yrs. He WAS 2" shorter than her & NOW 2" taller. She asks what happened to get taller. She is baffled. He plays dumb & says he had a late growth spurt. She says nobody in their late 20's gets a late growth spurt... he shruggs & says ... he ain't no doctor. SHE SAYS ... well you look real nice. Another guy at a party runs into 3 girls that were always just friends.... hasn't seen them in just over a year . They never showed him any interest. During the party on 3 seperate occasions these girls each had flirted with him. Before they never showed him any interest. He also gained 4". There is some other stories in the diaries.
Here is my 2 cents about this whole procedure
hyperdog & cute-bald,
What the two of you do with your body is your business and no one else. However, I really have to agree with the other posters that the two of you have problems that go beyond (and have very little to do with) height.
hyperdog,
You are 5'9'', which places you on the average height of Western nations (average heights range between 5'8''-5'10'' generally, with a few notable exceptions such as the Netherlands and Montenegro, where the average height closer to 6'). I really don't understand why you would go through the pain and potential complications just to have the bragging rights to be called "tall" and supposedly bring you an "edge" to dating (something which is frankly a myth).
cute-bald,
My father is 5'5'', the same height as you and he had no problems getting a girlfriend during his college days, and his is hardly an isolated case. While you may be correct that many women are attracted to taller men, there are other women for whom this is not a concern. (Also, I personally am highly sceptical about the so-called "testimonials" from sites like MMT!)
And besides, why is it so important for you what other people think of you? And why is it so important for you to find a woman anyways!? (Please see my "This may seem provocative..." post on this). You should take more pride and confidence in yourself and what you already possess! Living a life alone but with confidence and pride is worth far more than trying to chase down shallow women while wallowing in self-pity!
That's my 2 cents worth,
Samurai Joey
PS For disclosure, I am 5'8'' (which places me also within average height), and have ABSOLUTELY no desire to change this!
hyperdog & cute-bald,
What the two of you do with your body is your business and no one else. However, I really have to agree with the other posters that the two of you have problems that go beyond (and have very little to do with) height.
hyperdog,
You are 5'9'', which places you on the average height of Western nations (average heights range between 5'8''-5'10'' generally, with a few notable exceptions such as the Netherlands and Montenegro, where the average height closer to 6'). I really don't understand why you would go through the pain and potential complications just to have the bragging rights to be called "tall" and supposedly bring you an "edge" to dating (something which is frankly a myth).
cute-bald,
My father is 5'5'', the same height as you and he had no problems getting a girlfriend during his college days, and his is hardly an isolated case. While you may be correct that many women are attracted to taller men, there are other women for whom this is not a concern. (Also, I personally am highly sceptical about the so-called "testimonials" from sites like MMT!)
And besides, why is it so important for you what other people think of you? And why is it so important for you to find a woman anyways!? (Please see my "This may seem provocative..." post on this). You should take more pride and confidence in yourself and what you already possess! Living a life alone but with confidence and pride is worth far more than trying to chase down shallow women while wallowing in self-pity!
That's my 2 cents worth,
Samurai Joey
PS For disclosure, I am 5'8'' (which places me also within average height), and have ABSOLUTELY no desire to change this!
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Did ya see Grey's Anatomy last night? OMFG! Leg lengthening surgery aftermath. Poor guy. I know it's a TV show, but that could be you!
5'9" is just fine.
Cute-bald, pm me...
5'9" is just fine.
Cute-bald, pm me...
I will summarize
... todays research shows men 5'6" & under ... 97% never in longterm relationship. Well ... there is plenty of studies from sociology departments of Universities on the stigma of being the "short guy" . Does it make me insecure to care that people ... the minute they see a short guy... have subconsciously in their mind ... all those negative feelings towards short guys.... perhaps. I would like to make it a non-issue. You have not "walked in my shoes" BUT honest & perceptive people have admitted that ..1) yes.... short guys are greatly unapealing to women. 2) short is the sole factor that has left me as the " friend" to ladies. So as I am slim, athletic & attractive , they see it as greatly enhansing my dating life. YES...super charasmatic & humourous guys can seduce women & negate their shortness...... I, like many , do not posess those qualities. FINAL. I am not a loner & wish to have an intimate companion to go out & do things with.
... todays research shows men 5'6" & under ... 97% never in longterm relationship. Well ... there is plenty of studies from sociology departments of Universities on the stigma of being the "short guy" . Does it make me insecure to care that people ... the minute they see a short guy... have subconsciously in their mind ... all those negative feelings towards short guys.... perhaps. I would like to make it a non-issue. You have not "walked in my shoes" BUT honest & perceptive people have admitted that ..1) yes.... short guys are greatly unapealing to women. 2) short is the sole factor that has left me as the " friend" to ladies. So as I am slim, athletic & attractive , they see it as greatly enhansing my dating life. YES...super charasmatic & humourous guys can seduce women & negate their shortness...... I, like many , do not posess those qualities. FINAL. I am not a loner & wish to have an intimate companion to go out & do things with.
I went on speed-dating last night. Met 25 women, and about 5 of them were taller than me, one being 5'11". I had to ask them what minimum height for men would they date. And they all basically said at least their height. So you see, I was AUTOMATICALLY ruled out by them. If I was 6'0", I would at least have a chance with them.
There are two groups of women. Those who accept me for my height, and those who don't accept me for my height. I want to qualify for both groups.
There are two groups of women. Those who accept me for my height, and those who don't accept me for my height. I want to qualify for both groups.
So that you can do what, exactly? Fuck them? You're going to put yourself through this so you can (in theory at least) fuck every chick taller than you?hyperdog said:
You need therapy.
No offence, but you are fucking crazy to consider high-risk surgery to gain a few inches in height. I'm 5' 6" and would cut off my right arm to be 3 inches taller, but I would never have both legs cut off and re-attached.
I could use another 2" in dick length, as well, but make do with a puny 10" dick.
I could use another 2" in dick length, as well, but make do with a puny 10" dick.
Ya But.......
some reading of the surveys & research show the short ladies especially want men 6'+. Sounds rediculous but there you have it. I usually befriend women shorter than me ( 5'5") .... to no avail. The best I have heard is a few women wanting an average hight guy...... & NO way a short ....dork!! So going from 5'5" to 5'9.5" ... well then, I am just average & shed the "short man " stigma. NOT a magic bullet, but sure helps
some reading of the surveys & research show the short ladies especially want men 6'+. Sounds rediculous but there you have it. I usually befriend women shorter than me ( 5'5") .... to no avail. The best I have heard is a few women wanting an average hight guy...... & NO way a short ....dork!! So going from 5'5" to 5'9.5" ... well then, I am just average & shed the "short man " stigma. NOT a magic bullet, but sure helps
Hey.... They do NOT cut your legs off !!!
Go to (MMT) Make Me Taller web site & read up on the different proceedures, ... pros & cons of each. You can also read detailed diaries of guys' experiences in different countries with different techniques.
Go to (MMT) Make Me Taller web site & read up on the different proceedures, ... pros & cons of each. You can also read detailed diaries of guys' experiences in different countries with different techniques.
Attractive? Then why is your name cute-BALD? Maybe the women you are after couldn't care less about your height but don't like bald guys. You should start with a hair transplant before taking the more drastic step. That might solve your problems, won't take a year of recovery, and should cost only about $5K.cute-bald said:
First of all, cute-bald, as a scientist by profession and a sceptic by personal training, I do not take the statement "today's research" at face value; there are serious questions to sample size, research methodology, etc. that I need to examine more closely before I will even begin to buy in to the claims you just made. The statement "97% never in a long term relationship" means absolutely nothing without knowing which populations were sampled, if (as I assume this was done by a survey or questionnaire) how the questions were phrased, and so on.
Indeed, many sociologists have often gotten into trouble and made questionable claims based on either faulty or dubious sampling methods or making sweeping conclusions based on limited or poor quality data.
Also, I hope you do not think I am insulting or dismissing you, but can you really be sure that "shortness" is the SOLE factor that has left you a "friend" to the ladies? Perhaps there may be other factors in your personality, demeanour, appearance that may be a turn off as well. Remember, I do not dispute that MANY women find short men unappealing, but it is wrong to assume that this is the case for ALL women. Each woman (like each man) is unique and are attracted to different things in different people.
On the last point, there are many fulfilling relationships that you can have which do not involve either sexual intimacy or romance. You have already alluded to having numerous friends both male and female; these are people you could enjoy the company with and do things. These relationships are valuable to have, and there is no need for you to feel lonely if you have friends like these around.
I am by nature a loner myself, but I have a number of good friends whose relationship I value greatly.
Indeed, many sociologists have often gotten into trouble and made questionable claims based on either faulty or dubious sampling methods or making sweeping conclusions based on limited or poor quality data.
Also, I hope you do not think I am insulting or dismissing you, but can you really be sure that "shortness" is the SOLE factor that has left you a "friend" to the ladies? Perhaps there may be other factors in your personality, demeanour, appearance that may be a turn off as well. Remember, I do not dispute that MANY women find short men unappealing, but it is wrong to assume that this is the case for ALL women. Each woman (like each man) is unique and are attracted to different things in different people.
On the last point, there are many fulfilling relationships that you can have which do not involve either sexual intimacy or romance. You have already alluded to having numerous friends both male and female; these are people you could enjoy the company with and do things. These relationships are valuable to have, and there is no need for you to feel lonely if you have friends like these around.
I am by nature a loner myself, but I have a number of good friends whose relationship I value greatly.
cute-bald said:
I'm behind cute-bald all the way on his assertations and I've never met him in my life. I think that if you're "just normal", it is just way too easy to fall through the social cracks. Having height is like having a degree. It opens doors that are just not available to someone without that degree, but doesn't guarantee a job. Once in a blue moon someone extraordinary without a degree manages to bypass that. I think the height disparity is exacerbated being in Toronto--I am almost always the shortest male in the room at 5'5" but would be virtually "normal" where my parents are from or where I've visited in Europe. I understand heightism can't be escaped as it's universal--engrained in the human brain and in the language.
A bit off tangent, I saw a funny routine once where a local 3' or so comedian said he once went to a short support group and was flabbergasted that everyone there who was whining and crying was twice his size (you had to be there). Things like this do put it into perspective... temporarily...
A bit off tangent, I saw a funny routine once where a local 3' or so comedian said he once went to a short support group and was flabbergasted that everyone there who was whining and crying was twice his size (you had to be there). Things like this do put it into perspective... temporarily...
Final comments....
I shave my head.. I think it suites me ... as do many. Many more women find a bald man sexy than a short one. I do not have the detailed report.... it was out of the sociology dept. at Harvard. I found it in a list of various artcles on the undesirability of short men by women... found on a site... short support. You may be a loner .... I am not & really .... paying for it just doesn't cut it. Most of my friends are married.
I shave my head.. I think it suites me ... as do many. Many more women find a bald man sexy than a short one. I do not have the detailed report.... it was out of the sociology dept. at Harvard. I found it in a list of various artcles on the undesirability of short men by women... found on a site... short support. You may be a loner .... I am not & really .... paying for it just doesn't cut it. Most of my friends are married.
W3bster,This is what is referred to as a selection bias; women who write online testimonials stating their preference for tall men may not necessarily be representative of women in general. The only thing we can conclude is that women WHO DATE ONLINE AND WRITE TESTIMONIALS may prefer tall men.
Samurai Joey
Samurai Joey
W3bster said:
This is my last post on this topic
cute-bald wrote:
.... paying for it just doesn't cut it. Most of my friends are married.
cute-bald, I have never met or spoken with you and do not pretend to know you or how you feel, but frankly your responses to this and other posts indicate a very deep insecurity, lack of self-confidence, and desperation. The fact that you stated you view a "short support" website is, in my own limited viewing, evidence of this.
As I have stated before, I feel you should stop obsessing about your height and how it is impeding your life, and stop feeling like you need to be in a relationship, and just enjoy life with all its pleasures!! Complaining about how life is so unfair won't get you anywhere; it only brings you more misery (and frankly makes you look more unattractive to everyone).
cute-bald wrote:
.... paying for it just doesn't cut it. Most of my friends are married.
cute-bald, I have never met or spoken with you and do not pretend to know you or how you feel, but frankly your responses to this and other posts indicate a very deep insecurity, lack of self-confidence, and desperation. The fact that you stated you view a "short support" website is, in my own limited viewing, evidence of this.
As I have stated before, I feel you should stop obsessing about your height and how it is impeding your life, and stop feeling like you need to be in a relationship, and just enjoy life with all its pleasures!! Complaining about how life is so unfair won't get you anywhere; it only brings you more misery (and frankly makes you look more unattractive to everyone).
Samurai Joey...
I like your posts and your opinions. You seem to have a good head on your shoulders. Just saying...
I like your posts and your opinions. You seem to have a good head on your shoulders. Just saying...
