King Street accessibility concerns
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If sense was all that common, there wouldn't have been a mess that need a solution to be tried out in a pilot project.
Identifying problems is what such projects are for. Try to get over the regret that your wiser proposal never saw the light of day.
Like the fucking bus lanes on Highway 7 - they spent hundreds of millions of dollars and years constructing the fucking things and half of the buses still use the car lanes.
John Tory is a nut. Even Rob Ford knew better despite being a crackhead when he was approached for this dumbass project and shot it down.
I would like to know how much they end up spending for this project? To me it appears that the gravy train is back in session at City Hall and every idea is getting a green light. Good leaders make tough decisions and have a backbone.
I do not see any fiscal responsibility under the Tory administration whatsoever.
I would like to know how much they end up spending for this project? To me it appears that the gravy train is back in session at City Hall and every idea is getting a green light. Good leaders make tough decisions and have a backbone.
I do not see any fiscal responsibility under the Tory administration whatsoever.
Being a downtown person, this plan is fantastic. Once it's made permanent then the rest of the little details changes to the roadway can be made.
The city is nuts when it comes to planning. I could tell stories of horror when it comes to planning development in Toronto. Money literally flushed down the sewers.
At least you've nailed why Rob shot down the one good transit plan he could have put his name to. Compared to the billion his thousand-users-a-day subway station will cost, a hundred or so thou to put up some signs to move 60,000 people a day (plus 20,000 in cars) efficiently at last is the smartest city spending in a long time.
Exactly.... why do all the crappy ideas get green lit but the ones that would make a material improvement and put Toronto on a trajectory to a world class city never undertaken?
Every year street car tracks in seemingly impeccable condition are ripped out and re-laid costing millions and creating traffic problems. Probably has to do corruption and kickbacks between the city and construction companies that's been ongoing for decades, with involvement from the mafia. It's disgraceful and expensive. That gravy train must stop.
How do the "poor" countries get funding to build massive underground train systems and we can't extend past Finch since the 70s?
You nailed it. Kickbacks are the key thing here. They will make whatever crock of shit they want to in order to achieve this end.
Read this article:
https://www.reminetwork.com/articles/toronto-pilots-office-modernization
They are modernizing offices throughout the City but their math is ass backwards.
They have spent in excess of $12 million dollars on this "pilot project" whereby they hope to save $1.08 million dollars in 7.5 years.
Guess what's going to happen 10 years from now... they will renovate all over again. This is how our tax dollars are being spent!
When TCHC buildings are in deplorable condition do you think modernizing your offices is a top priority? To create colloborative space and attract and retain talent.
Really? Is attracting and retaining talent that big a problem? You have a rock solid pension and work 8:30am to 4:30 pm. You have a very high proportion of staff making over $100,000.
Over and above you do not have the pressure to perform of the private sector nor are you blindsided by layoffs. I also have major concerns that they are looking to encourage staff to telework! My experience with City back office/management is that they have it pretty cushy. These guys are planning to make things even better by staying home and getting paid. I will say that the frontliners are great. Especially "311".
How can you have staff telework when most of the organization fails to track metrics and KPIs? It is proposterous.
It's time for change. Hoping Richard Peddie steps forward in a bid for mayor. The whole organization needs a reset. The City manager, Peter Wallace, is pushing for taxes to rise since the City's finances are a hot mess. Wouldn't curbing your spending be the most viable solution? These frivolous pilots are a waste of money.
Do you get that subways require a massive investment that the taxpayers have been unwilling to deal with?
Government has the responsibility to do what's in the best interest of the people, despite taxpayer grumbling. Considering how big our debt is, they've been failing.
Of course it's even more expensive to rip up underground subway tracks for repair and replacement, and more difficult to re-route the users, but I'm with you. Subways, subways, subways.
Of course they don't come free, so we're both cheering for higher taxes, higher taxes, higher taxes. Glad to have your support.
The Sheppard subway line will never have enough passengers to justify its expense.
Subways only make sense with enough people around to fill them.
LRT's are the way modern cities do it in areas with lower populations.
Witness the $3 billion Scarborough subway stop vs the entirely funded Miller Transit city that Mr crackhead 'subway, subway, subway sandwhich' left us.
I'm sure you're aware NYC has hired away CEO Andy Byford from the TTC. New York City had plenty of folks already resident or immigrating in a steady stream to keep subways packed since their first lines were dug in the early 1900s. But thanks to car-crazed, tax-averse pols like Rob they have fewer subway miles running today than they did at the end of WW2.
Subways make sense when you have to move a lot of people, and they are willing to pay for them — outta taxes, 'cause the fare box can't — and use them. North York, Scarborough and Etobicoke and the folks farther out don't yet have the base population, and won't use subways until we stop letting them cars our horrendously expensive roads at no charge, or worse, as parking lots and slowing down the buses, truck, taxis, and streetcars we need to keep the city running.
Until every seat in every car taking up road-space is occupied, car-users have nothing to complain about. Except their own spendthrift ways and immature impatience.
Why do commuters prefer cars to public transit? That should be the first question. Because, in spite of congestion, a car is still the fastest way to get around, if you live outside downtown and the major public transport corridors. Which is the majority of people in the GTA. Much of the Etobicoke is without rapid transit, all of the Scarborough doesn't have access to rapid transit. And rapid transit is the only thing that will reduce our reliance on personal vehicles.There are plenty of people who are laughing at the Sheppard subway line. But, do they know what's happening along that street? The residential developments are off the scale partly fuelled by the rapid transit access. Before long, the line will have to be extended. As for King St. I was on it today during the morning rush. Empty. Those 20 thousand cars went somewhere else. Still a stupid idea.
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