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black booty lover said:
My point is that they are normal people, and when someone rips you off, just like your average citizen, there will be a reaction. So lets stop with the "well they are cops so they should handle the situation different average citizen". I have many police acquaintances too, so don't act like just because you know a few cops that holds some sort of merit in this debate.
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Read this paper and tell me that they are 'normal people' off-duty.

 
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black booty lover said:
Of course I have to assume. Without actually being there and seeing what happened, I have to make some sort of assumption right??

My assumption is based on the fact that this happened 9 months ago, and the cops haven't been charged with assault or anything of the nature. Your the exactly the type of person the news targets, because they'll spin a story with a headline, and people like you will buy into it.
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“It remains unclear what actually caused Facey’s death but the officers involved are now facing disciplinary charges for allegedly failing to notify police about their use of force and failing to document their interaction with him.”

Did you even read the article? The police involved are facing disciplinary charges for their actions.
 
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I don't understand you. I'm thinking drugs and/or alcohol have scrambled your brain.

As I HAVE taken the law into my own hands to right a wrong, at least from my perspective, and have been held to account for my actions, I have a different perspective on how people are treated when they assault other people.
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I’ve done the same thing when I was in my early 20s and looking back at it if this guy got seriously fucked up or died then my life would be so fucked. I’d 100% be going to jail and the defence of “oh he scammed me on Kijiji” wouldn’t really hold up in court. And that’s what people are outraged about. The fact that police (especially off duty police officers like the two brothers who beat the Durham teen to the point where he’s blind in one eye) aren’t held to the same standard as citizens.
 
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Ghbff said:
“It remains unclear what actually caused Facey’s death but the officers involved are now facing disciplinary charges for allegedly failing to notify police about their use of force and failing to document their interaction with him.”

Did you even read the article? The police involved are facing disciplinary charges for their actions.
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How dumb are you??? They're "facing disciplinary charges for their actions". These aren't criminal charges. They made a poor error in judgment by not notifying the police. Okay, as police offers they should have done that. Doesn't change the fact they are human, and in the heat of the moment someone rips your off/takes your money you organically try to stop it from happening.
 
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black booty lover said:
How dumb are you??? They're "facing disciplinary charges for their actions". These aren't criminal charges. They made a poor error in judgment by not notifying the police. Okay, as police offers they should have done that. Doesn't change the fact they are human, and in the heat of the moment someone rips your off/takes your money you organically try to stop it from happening.
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How dumb am I? Bro stop the boot licking for a minute and think about how you sound right now.
 
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"They're "facing disciplinary charges for their actions". These aren't criminal charges. They made a poor error in judgment by not notifying the police."

Sounds like some kind of internal administrative oversight by the off duty cops. Definitely not criminal .
 
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Ghbff said:
For the cops to be held to the same standard if not a higher standard than average citizens. Not that hard to figure out dumb dumb
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Wooooow. This will be the las time I respond to this, as it seems to be beyond your comprehension. The cops are being held accountable. If there was merit for them to be criminal charged, they would have been. This happened 9 months ago. It's pretty apparent there's no grounds for them to be charged. As police officers, they definitely should have reported to the police, and because they didn't, they are facing disciplinary charges. The news needs to sell stories, so they will spin this like there is more to it (especially with their headlines) when there really isn't anything more to the story. Two cops screwed up, but they didn't kill the guy.
 
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Now you are showing how little you know. Unlike normal citizens, who are charged and have to prove their innocence in court, the police have a crown and judge review the evidence and if they feel there is not a strong likelihood of a conviction they don't proceed with charges. Now ask me how I know that. I tried to get a couple of cops charged with assault with a weapon (their car) after they hit me with a side mirror while trying to avoid me identifying them so I could complain about their actions. I had to write out a statement describing the event, go down to College Park to swear in front of a JP to the event, and then show up another day to be questioned by a Crown and Judge. At the end they decided there wasn't a high chance of conviction so they didn't bother charging them. I did get a written apology and the ticket they gave me was withdrawn but still, another example of police not being treated like normal people. If one of your neighbors called and said you hit them with your car and drove off, would you be charged???

As you pointed out, this happened 9 months ago and there are likely no real witnesses to what happened, and even if there were they likely can't provide a credible identification of two men that were only seen for a short time so far in the past. As there are not going to be credible witnesses, and it is unlikely they have video evidence, the crown probably made the determination that they wouldn't get a conviction which is why they are only facing disciplinary action.

But please, keep trying to defend the obvious criminal actions that these 'good guys' engaged in. It looks good on you.
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Transparency and criminal charges if the injuries led to death. Have you not caught the gist of the thread?
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How are you not??? This is about the 4th time I've said this. So here you go for the last time:

THIS HAPPENED 9 MONTHS AGO. IF THE MEDICAL TEAM THAT TREATED THIS YOUNG MAN SUSPECTED HE DIED AS RESULT OF THE COPS ACTIONS, THIS WOULD HAVE CAME TO LIGHT BY NOW AS THE AUTOPSY WOULD HAVE SHOWN THIS AND THE COPS WOULD HAVE BEEN CHARGED. OBVIOUSLY, THERE WASN'T EVIDENCE OF THAT. A KID RIPPED THEM OFF, THEY CHASED HIM DOWN AND GOT THERE MONEY BACK. FAIRLY NORMAL THING TO DO IN THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT.

My point from the beginning, was the kid was on kijji trying to scam people. So yeah, I'm bit sympathetic towards the cops because the news is spinning this story like there's more to this as if they beat him to death and people like you will fall for it.
 
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black booty lover said:
How are you not??? This is about the 4th time I've said this. So here you go for the last time:

THIS HAPPENED 9 MONTHS AGO. IF THE MEDICAL TEAM THAT TREATED THIS YOUNG MAN SUSPECTED HE DIED AS RESULT OF THE COPS ACTIONS, THIS WOULD HAVE CAME TO LIGHT BY NOW AS THE AUTOPSY WOULD HAVE SHOWN THIS AND THE COPS WOULD HAVE BEEN CHARGED. OBVIOUSLY, THERE WASN'T EVIDENCE OF THAT. A KID RIPPED THEM OFF, THEY CHASED HIM DOWN AND GOT THERE MONEY BACK. FAIRLY NORMAL THING TO DO IN THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT.

My point from the beginning, was the kid was on kijji trying to scam people. So yeah, I'm bit sympathetic towards the cops because the news is spinning this story like there's more to this as if they beat him to death and people like you will fall for it.
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So you don't want transparency then? And as I said, trained police shouldn't go violent "in the heat of the moment", especially when off duty. If you actually took the time to look at what I was saying, at no time did I say the cops killed the kid.

p.s. they weren't acting as cops at the time, simply people wanting a deal acting as vigilantes.
 
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