Ah, the old "we're here to deliver that bone saw you ordered" scam. Works every time.
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Khashoggi 'died after fight' - Saudis
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They are probably dead meat. The Turks know what happened and have the evidence to prove it. They will trade that for huge concessions from the US and Saudis in order to go along with the idiotic narrative. After all, they could not give a fuck about the dead guy and making the Saudis and US pay a huge price will deter anyone else from running ops from their embassies in the future.
Holy shit.
If that's true and Turkey has the audio recordings to prove it Mister Bone Saw will be in some trouble.
Do the Saudis end his rule or wait this out?
I won't be surprised if there is a palace coup to kick him out or if he somehow dies accidentally
now there is too much money in play, not to mention the long term survival of the Al-Saud dynasty, and that is probably the only thing that would scare the old king
now there is too much money in play, not to mention the long term survival of the Al-Saud dynasty, and that is probably the only thing that would scare the old king
Demoting him to some subsidiary, low profile job would be the best case scenario. It depends on who holds the power now and if the old king is just a figurehead. If the power has already passed to Prince Mo and he kills the old man, Saudi could become a rogue state with Mo in charge.
I am guessing that they bugged the embassy and the Saudis were too incompetent to sweep for bugs.
The US had intel that the killing was going to happen. I wonder if the Turk's got wind as well. Al J is reporting that the Saudi's brought a body double who left the consulate wearing Khashoggi's clothes. They report that they have footage of him leaving the consulate, walking down the street, taking a cab to a mosque, leaving in different clothes and even dumping Khashoggi's clothes in a garbage can. As well they seem to be claiming that a Saudi took Khashoggi's body back to SA in a suitcase/large bag.
They've also reported that Mister Bone Saw himself talked to Khashoggi on the phone in the consulate just before he was killed.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/10/jamal-khashoggi-case-latest-updates-181010133542286.html
Turkey is playing this one really well, they are maximizing the time for Mister Bone Saw to keep making excuses/bad stories. Ergodan is reported to be releasing the full report tomorrow.
It's clear the Saudi's killed him. 14 thugs, a body double and a bone saw. Think Canada is still in hot water with the Saudi's? Trudeau must be like "I told you so."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41wj-5YKzkQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41wj-5YKzkQ
I think that Turkey is waiting for Prince Mo to kill the 18 operatives now held in a Saudi prison before it releases the audio of him talking to them / Khashoggi before the latter got tortured to death.
That way they can spin the story out and focus on the fact that Prince Mo killed 19 dudes instead of just 1.
the former crown prince, Muhammad bin Nayef, is supposedly under house arrest, but of course living in a big palace complex.
I won't be surprised if in the near future they swap roles again
Turkey says there were 4 phone calls from Mister Bone Saw to his team/Khashoggi in the consulate before they got to work.
Would Turkey be satisfied with just the team now?
I am curious to see if they are going to release the audio recordings last. They are certainly doing there best to drag this out as long as possible. Not that Trump will do anything, I don't think Obama or Hillary would do anything either, despite the journalist being a permanent resident of USA.
It is against Muslim tenets to defile a body after death. The killers can be branded heretics and capitally punished.
The killers dropped the body in the well in the garden of the home of the Saudi consul general.
So stupid.
I'm still waiting for the Americans to present their take on the evidence that will be provided to them.
The leaked information doesn't make sense. Apparently, suitcases were filled with Khasshogi's clothing. Khashoggi did not arrive with any suitcases. So why leave the body on site, only to take care to remove clothing and possessions (but then not dispose of them in the several days following the murder)? Why not use suitcases to remove body parts? Are the Saudis really this bad at assassination? Are the Turk authorities credible investigators? Would a trained assassin dispose of a body in a garden on site? Sounds like the plan of an amateur (like the gay village killer here in Toronto). Didn't the Saudis do any research? They would have found that gardens are a bad place to hide body parts, and a likely first place investigators would look.
And Turkey demanding that Saudis stand trial in Turkey for crimes committed in a Saudi Consulate against a fellow Saudi? What's up with that?
Evidence presented like the Saudi explanations so far?
"He left the Consulate alive, but we have no records, no cameras, you know how it is, so we can't say when.
"Ooops! Actually he suffocated in one of our brawls, no one here pays attention to those. No idea where the body is.
"Ooops! Actually one of the Turkish local staff stealing a carpet thought having a body inside the rug would look more normal. No idea why that body hasn't turned up.
"Ooops! Oh that body, the one cut up for mulch around the Consul's rose bushes? Trust us, we'll have an explanation for that, too. Some day.
So far the Turks look like pretty competent investigators, the Saudi explanations have been utterly incredible and unworthy of belief since the beginning, and everything we know supports the premise that short-sighted autocrats and their lickspittle functionaries clumsily ordered this assassination without considering the consequences in the larger world outside their closed Kingdom. Much like Donny's best bro' Kim ordering the assassination of his half-brother in Singapore. Donny of course wishes he could do as much with his turbulent journos.
What's up with the Turks demanding the murderers be tried in Istanbul is that without their investigations, ignoring diplomatic extra-territoriality, the Saudis would still be spinning fairy-tales about fistfights and carpet-rolls. Expecting the Saudis to do anything is like expecting Al Capone to bust speakeasies.
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Since yopu mention Bruce McArthur, it would appear he was considerably more competent than the Saudis as it took a good half-dozen years for his crimes and the resulting body-parts to come to notice. And months, not mere days, of police searching. But that may have been the winter weather here.
Clearly the Saudi Plant wore all of Khashoggi's clothing, except his shoes to try and deceive the security cameras that it was Khashoggi leaving the Consulate. That was off course very amateurish considering that this plant walked into the Consulate with totally different clothing. I think that the clothing was disposed directly by this plant and was caught on camera. But I guess your take on it is very interesting. I think there are a few alt right websites that are coming to the same conclusion as you. These Turks are such bad guys!!
