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Kavanaugh is definitly lying....testimony - picked apart...

essguy_

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Maybe. But that would be for an investigation to discover. Correct? Now - think of another scenario where Kavanaugh simply admits that "Yeah, there might have been times where as a young kid, I didn't know my drinking limits. But I would puke, go to my room, and sleep it off". Or something like that. Kavanaugh tried to build a virtuous version of himself for the benefit of his confirmation hearings. He even went on FOX to start building this story. HE brought it on. So doubting his story is an obvious fallout after his TOTAL LACK of grace under fire.
 

jcpro

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Maybe. But that would be for an investigation to discover. Correct? Now - think of another scenario where Kavanaugh simply admits that "Yeah, there might have been times where as a young kid, I didn't know my drinking limits. But I would puke, go to my room, and sleep it off". Or something like that. Kavanaugh tried to build a virtuous version of himself for the benefit of his confirmation hearings. He even went on FOX to start building this story. HE brought it on. So doubting his story is an obvious fallout after his TOTAL LACK of grace under fire.
Actually, I read the judge's answers regarding drinking and the newest accusations. No contradictions. You can check the transcripts of both, yourself. As for his defense, that's a matter of perception, only.
 

essguy_

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Actually, I read the judge's answers regarding drinking and the newest accusations. No contradictions. You can check the transcripts of both, yourself. As for his defense, that's a matter of perception, only.
Contradictions? I'm talking about lying. Kavanaugh consistently painted a portrait of himself which conflicted with his reputation as a hard partying drinker. And his Clinton rant was completely off the wall and bizarre enough to disqualify him on that one rant alone.
 

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Actually, I read the judge's answers regarding drinking and the newest accusations. No contradictions. You can check the transcripts of both, yourself. As for his defense, that's a matter of perception, only.
All he did was show that he has anger issues.
Which make the accusations of him being a mean, sloppy and rapey drunk all that more solid.
 

jcpro

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All he did was show that he has anger issues.
Which make the accusations of him being a mean, sloppy and rapey drunk all that more solid.
Ooh! He's a rageaholic, now. He probably got into fisticuffs as a kid maybe even masturbated (perish the thought!).
 

bver_hunter

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Actually I specifically called the article you pasted speculating that 500 agents should be on this hilarious.

What will happen is they will interview people who will say exactly the same things as already publicly stated.

And that's it.
You are speculating what will happen, blah, blah blah. Why do you not wait for the final outcome. What if they have other rational evidence that he was lying??

The FBI has tight timelines and they have the capability to involve even 500 agents if it comes down to it. This was stated by a former FBI agent on the Chris Cuomo Show.

Again you are so hilarious with claiming to be a Sanders supporter, as you and Sanders has very little in common as far as your history of politics on this Board is concerned!!
 

Butler1000

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You are speculating what will happen, blah, blah blah. Why do you not wait for the final outcome. What if they have other rational evidence that he was lying??

The FBI has tight timelines and they have the capability to involve even 500 agents if it comes down to it. This was stated by a former FBI agent on the Chris Cuomo Show.

Again you are so hilarious with claiming to be a Sanders supporter, as you and Sanders has very little in common as far as your history of politics on this Board is concerned!!
Will you accept the results if it results in the nomination moving forward because it turns out like I said.

This isn't about sides. It's about political reality. My wanting Sanders as President has no bearing on my accessing of what is going to happen.

Again you are being an immature partisan as opposed to dispassionately assessing the reality.
 

bver_hunter

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Will you accept the results if it results in the nomination moving forward because it turns out like I said.

This isn't about sides. It's about political reality. My wanting Sanders as President has no bearing on my accessing of what is going to happen.

Again you are being an immature partisan as opposed to dispassionately assessing the reality.
Would you accept the results (if fully disclosed) because it does not turn out like you said?

Remember you are the one who said that the FBI investigation is irrelevant to the sexual allegations. Obviously, even the three Republicans on the Judiciary Committee disagrees with your ridiculous statement. So I got it right then!!

Clearly shows that you are the partisan one that is the living in the real world, but just following Trump like a blind follower of his.
 

Butler1000

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Would you accept the results (if fully disclosed) because it does not turn out like you said?

Remember you are the one who said that the FBI investigation is irrelevant to the sexual allegations. Obviously, even the three Republicans on the Judiciary Committee disagrees with your ridiculous statement. So I got it right then!!

Clearly shows that you are the partisan one that is the living in the real world, but just following Trump like a blind follower of his.
Seriously?

Before we go any further answer the simple question. Will you accept the FBI saying there is no there there.

If you don't, I win. It's that simple.

As for me whatever. BK out, another one in. As a Canadian it has no effect on my life.

It's only relevant as a sop. Already the Dems as I predicted have called for 24 other investigations. 24.

It's ridiculous.

Oh and your boy Avanetti picked the wrong victim. First big misstep. But he is a rookie.
 

wigglee

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"I cannot prove that he committed sexual assault when he was 17, and I hesitate to draw conclusions about what happened for a few minutes in a house in Maryland in the summer of 1982."

Of course this doesn't stop Nathan J. Robinson, going on to make all sorts of strained accusations. An "event like this" doesn't mean one where sexual assaults occurred, it means small parties where there was drinking.
Surely, you boof!
 

bver_hunter

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Seriously?

Before we go any further answer the simple question. Will you accept the FBI saying there is no there there.

If you don't, I win. It's that simple.

As for me whatever. BK out, another one in. As a Canadian it has no effect on my life.

It's only relevant as a sop. Already the Dems as I predicted have called for 24 other investigations. 24.

It's ridiculous.

Oh and your boy Avanetti picked the wrong victim. First big misstep. But he is a rookie.
By the way I am Canadian as well. So with me it is all the same as well, okay?? The only losers will be the Americans if that happens, as they will get a real hypocrite of a judge who has lied under testimony and no doubt assaulted women against their consent.

But you so passionately have stuck up for Trump, although you claim to be a Sander's "supporter".

If the Dems have called for 24 other investigations so be it. They are worried about what I just explained.

Avenatti has got one over Trump and Mike Cohen. Where is the lawsuit against him, and who is under serious investigation as a result, Cohen or Avenatti?

So Trump and Cohen were real, real, "rookies", then, as a porn star really slammed them into a corner. Hilarious!!
 

Butler1000

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By the way I am Canadian as well. So with me it is all the same as well, okay?? The only losers will be the Americans if that happens, as they will get a real hypocrite of a judge who has lied under testimony and no doubt assaulted women against their consent.

But you so passionately have stuck up for Trump, although you claim to be a Sander's "supporter".

If the Dems have called for 24 other investigations so be it. They are worried about what I just explained.

Avenatti has got one over Trump and Mike Cohen. Where is the lawsuit against him, and who is under serious investigation as a result, Cohen or Avenatti?

So Trump and Cohen were real, real, "rookies", then, as a porn star really slammed them into a corner. Hilarious!!
If you actually read things you would see my hope is the destruction of the two party system. For that to occur people need to wake up to Congress being the issue and vote out the leadership as a start. From both parties.

And that only happens when it gets worse.

All the rest of your post is opinion. So what? I prefer to analyse political realities, not wishful, hopeful thinking.

Barring a bombshell he will be confirmed. Flake and the rest are not going to allow any more investigations. The rest is political hyperbole and borderline hysteria.

Avenatti just lost a ton of political cred taking this client on. She is a Trainwreck. Soon to be considered a one hit wonder in legal circles. After the mid terms him and Stormy will fade away. Watch.
 

bver_hunter

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If you actually read things you would see my hope is the destruction of the two party system. For that to occur people need to wake up to Congress being the issue and vote out the leadership as a start. From both parties.

And that only happens when it gets worse.

All the rest of your post is opinion. So what? I prefer to analyse political realities, not wishful, hopeful thinking.

Barring a bombshell he will be confirmed. Flake and the rest are not going to allow any more investigations. The rest is political hyperbole and borderline hysteria.

Avenatti just lost a ton of political cred taking this client on. She is a Trainwreck. Soon to be considered a one hit wonder in legal circles. After the mid terms him and Stormy will fade away. Watch.
You have passionately defended Trump, and that is what I have read in your posts. No doubt this is the poorest choice of a Supreme Court nominee. He has very partisan views as displayed in his opening speech before the Judiciary Committee. Just because he is Trump's choice you support it 100%.

If the two party system gets "destroyed" then true Democracy will be a win / win. Also, that electoral college voting system needs a true overhaul as it does not replicate the opinions of the majority of the Americans. We know that one man one vote did not matter in the 2016 elections. That is the Americans own problems, not ours.

Again fine one for you to talk about opinions as that is what you are about. The facts were put out by Christine Blasey Ford, and that was her own choice contrary to your beliefs where you believed the right wing "Conspiracy Theory". When Kavanaugh's testimonies were inaccurate to the point of lying, we know what an uphill task he faces in the nominations.

Flake and Collins at least stood up to their own hypocritical Republicans, who wanted to rush this whole nomination through especially how controversial it was from the word go. Yet they stalled and finally prevented Obama's nomination going through when there was a perfectly legitimated nominee without skeletons in his closet from going through.

Finally, you have not heard the latest news of how Trump lied about whether he knew anything about the hush money to Stormy Daniels, where he wanted his son Eric to handle that restraining order against her, months before the Airforce One denial:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/02/politics/trump-michael-cohen-stormy-daniels/index.html

So you are wrong again. It is not going to "fade" away anytime soon. Mueller will be back in this whole investigation. Go Stormy Go. America needs your help!!
 
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