Kanye West, No Sell Out!
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Interesting. How dare "they" look for a promotion. The nerve!Keebler Elf said:
Have you seen a qualified black man get passed by when an unqualified white guy gets the promotion? And then the white guy tells the black guy, "I thought you would get it"? I have.
The conomic advantages enjoyed by the descendants of the previous generations opression will not be let go of easily. Equitable policies that evolve in affirmative action will balance the scales by first tipping them the other way. Anyone who does not wish to be affected had better rise tothe top of their profession or find themselves a safety net. In the mean time, the have nots will always whine about being black, gay, female, fat, short, whatever...
Does Kanye want to know why his people arent being helped? They are shooting at the aid workers. Stealing the rescue vehicles and using them for their own people rather than maximizing their potential for rescue. I would be afraid to go near them that they would shoot me and split me open to get all my help at once.
Does Kanye want to know why his people arent being helped? They are shooting at the aid workers. Stealing the rescue vehicles and using them for their own people rather than maximizing their potential for rescue. I would be afraid to go near them that they would shoot me and split me open to get all my help at once.
Until the black community steps up to the plate and realizes that the solution to their problem is as much internal as it is external, the "plight of the black man" isn't going to change one bit.MPANewbie said:
Does systemic racism exist? Absolutely. But it isn't going anywhere anytime soon and the black community isn't doing a whole lot to help it on it's way. Blaming whitey for all their problems doesn't help their cause; it just makes whitey hit the "ignore" button that much quicker.
Btw, what's the birth rate like these days among single black mothers? I'll bet that's whitey's fault too. Or how's the investigation going into who shot that little kid on the bus around Finch? Oh yeah, all those upstanding citizens in the community won't come forward to rid their own community of thugs and criminals. And yet we're supposed to care? Gimme a break, they don't even care about their own community themselves. It's SOOOO much easier just to blame whitey...
And you can hear it hear from me first: I don't give a rat's ass about anyone who won't take responsibility for their own lives.
There will be no solution until people like yourself stop seeing it as a black vs white problem. It's a Toronto problem.
Saying it's "everyone's" problem equates it to being no one's problem. Is there a crime problem in the black community? Oh, heck no. It's a crime problem "in Toronto". Bullshit. The black community doesn't want to come out and admit that the majority of gun violence in Toronto is from black on black crime. Period. And until the black community takes it's own blinders off and admits it's got a problem and actually does something itself to fix it, then blaming everyone else is just a cop out plain and simple.Back Burner said:
And I don't really see it as a black vs. white problem. If you'd read my posts you'd know that. IMHO, first and foremost, it's an internal black mentality/cultural problem. When you marginalize yourself by conditioning your community to think that everyone is out to get you and it's everyone's fault but your own, pretty soon those people you're constantly blaming stop caring what the fuck you say b/c they know you're full of shit.
And the problem is you're condemning and entire community. Why is a white person is just a person, but a black person is a community? Why does a black person have to take the weight of all the black crime? There have been many blacks who have spoken out against these crimes, but I guess you're still blaming the black community. I guess the love the crime and guns.
Give me a break.
Give me a break.
Keebler you F***ing moron you'll never blame the white community for hells angels crimes or drug dealings, Why the F***would you blame the black community for any crime committed by a black man? Your assumptions show a lack of activity in your liitle brain.
MPA, I do apologize, in no way did I mean to offend or insult you. I very much value your opinion and I'm enjoying reading your views.
I will admit, I would have never acted the same way while reperesenting Red Cross for pledges. Is this what you meant by inappropriate? This I can understand . . . sometimes I can be a litlle dense. LOL
However, if his comment had been made on evening news I would not feel the same way. By George, I think I understand your point (I got some rest today).
When I talked about donations I was not just referring to the Red Cross. As we all know, many have been made by other countries which have not been accepted as of yet. The Red Cross need not bare this burden alone.
2. If the real agenda, for the USA, was to get formula to starving babies, the US would have accepted all the support offered by Cuba, by Iran, by Sri Lanka, etc . . . Where was the urgency?? Where was the real support??
Red Cross's agenda, with no doubt, was feed and help all survivors. But the Red Cross could not enter NOLA and had to wait at the sidelines for survivors to be brought to them by the army and dissaster specialists (1000 ppl for the 100,000+ survivors) Again, I say, I stand alone until I'm shown unconditional love and support.
I will admit, I would have never acted the same way while reperesenting Red Cross for pledges. Is this what you meant by inappropriate? This I can understand . . . sometimes I can be a litlle dense. LOL
However, if his comment had been made on evening news I would not feel the same way. By George, I think I understand your point (I got some rest today).
I'm a firm believer that the telethon makes donations more accessible to those who would have donated anyways. I also believe, Kanye's statement, for those who have a sypathetic heart, would have created more sympathy, to see his fraustration and loss of control. Really, we will probably never know the impact his statement had, good or bad.MPANewbie said:
When I talked about donations I was not just referring to the Red Cross. As we all know, many have been made by other countries which have not been accepted as of yet. The Red Cross need not bare this burden alone.
1. You are correct. I assume that I stand alone until I am shown support and understanding. I'm not offended when people speak their mind. I feel its my duty to try and understand where they are coming from and show them support, unconditionally.MPANewbie said:
2. If the real agenda, for the USA, was to get formula to starving babies, the US would have accepted all the support offered by Cuba, by Iran, by Sri Lanka, etc . . . Where was the urgency?? Where was the real support??
Red Cross's agenda, with no doubt, was feed and help all survivors. But the Red Cross could not enter NOLA and had to wait at the sidelines for survivors to be brought to them by the army and dissaster specialists (1000 ppl for the 100,000+ survivors) Again, I say, I stand alone until I'm shown unconditional love and support.
You are right, there is priority, but we are human and are capable of multi-tasking. Some of us are meant to donate money, some time, some resources, and some are meant to argue the politics.MPANewbie said:
Why does someone from the Hip Hop community need to be "given" a platform? If they all worked together, I'm sure they could afford their own platforms.
Send me a PM . . . .MPANewbie said:
No Sell Out...
Just like when he pointed out how crack and AIDS were deliberatly spread in the black community in the US and Africa...
He's a hero to a LOT of young black people right now. Props to him for having the strength to weather all the criticism that he gets for speaking out... This thread proves how unfair the criticism is... All the attention diverted AWAY from the real issues while he takes the blame for being 'untimely and uncouth'...
He's a hero and NO SELL OUT.
Just like when he pointed out how crack and AIDS were deliberatly spread in the black community in the US and Africa...
He's a hero to a LOT of young black people right now. Props to him for having the strength to weather all the criticism that he gets for speaking out... This thread proves how unfair the criticism is... All the attention diverted AWAY from the real issues while he takes the blame for being 'untimely and uncouth'...
He's a hero and NO SELL OUT.
Your opinion is respected even though I disagree. Could you kindly provide some intelligent discussion now as to WHY you think this theory is so ridiculous?lenharper said:
What if it were true? What would you say then?
Who is Keebler trying to fool???????
Also, let me tell you about the Indian family that got an apartment at Arista Way in Mississauga while I was turned back without being allowed to apply. I had more money and a good job. Eventually I sent my wife at the time(blonde haired and blue eyed from Sweden) to reapply without me present(she wasnt there the first time) and lo and behold she was allowed to apply.
What a load of garbage
So black people arent working hard eh. I already documented me interviewing for an accounting job. The only other candidate was a white female. I had experience and the accounting degree from UOL in the UK. Her previous experience was washing dishes at a restaurant. Guess who got the job. Before you start making excuses...we both started in the same data entry department. I was always ontime. She wasnt. I performed my task diligently. She was always on the phone having fun. She was loud and obnoxious. I was a team player and never got anyone's bad side. After they gave the job to her I resigned the next day. My mother was the operations manager at a major car company at the same time and she resigned after facing a barrage of bigotry at the hands of an Indian man who wanted her post. Of course he had a white man in his corner helping him harrass her nonstop. She was left wondering why she left her country to come here when she already had a big post at a very big company back home. It was like her two masters degrees and her doctorate, not to mention her stellar record was nothing. This is why my father is staying his ass in the Caribbean and finishing his career at PWC down there(he has been there since the 70s). He isnt coming here to be shitted on.
Also, let me tell you about the Indian family that got an apartment at Arista Way in Mississauga while I was turned back without being allowed to apply. I had more money and a good job. Eventually I sent my wife at the time(blonde haired and blue eyed from Sweden) to reapply without me present(she wasnt there the first time) and lo and behold she was allowed to apply.
LOL, this is such nonsense. I find it VERY HARD TO BELIEVE someone applies for a job and then bitches and moan whether it is right before, after or during the interview!!!!!!! No one fills out a form and then goes off. That is done AFTER they have been turned down. You are such a bold faced liar it isnt funny at all!
Keebler Elf said:
geeezus christ, that was perfect Keebler, so damn good, i may have to come back and quote you (with full credit/acknowledgment of course)
With me agreeing to your statement, according to some...i think/have thoughts like a racist...
now to shed some light, one of my closest friends at work, who's half black/white, but looks more black, is actually goal oriented and motivated.
he admits to dealing drugs before, but has cleaned up his act quite a bit, works 2 jobs (plus with his parents takes care of his sisters 2 kids whom she left, gone to another country)... and in 2 weeks he is signing up for the real estate course.
he said, the other lifestyle he led, didn't get him anywhere, nor will it.
now THAT'S taking responsibility for your life.
