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ROTFLMFAO!!! This is the clearest confirmation of the Chinese involvement in subverting our elections. You think that you're scoring some kind of a political point, but, since Ontario is part of Canada, you've just offered 100% proof that the story is real -Justin colluded with a foreign power and that's why he's stonewalling. Thanks!
ROTFLMAO, explain how Trudeau "colluded" with China when clearly it was a Conservative MPP who did so?? Trudeau is not stonewalling if he is appointing an independent rapporteur to investigate this whole interference. Obviously, you as a right winger always catches the bull by the tail......... Hilarious!!

We see in the USA that when there is collusion there is an independent investigation appointed by the DOJ to investigate, and not a "Public Enquiry". Why should this be any different?
 
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ROTFLMAO, explain how Trudeau "colluded" with China when clearly it was a Conservative MPP who did so?? Trudeau is not stonewalling if he is appointing an independent rapporteur to investigate this whole interference. Obviously, you as a right winger always catches the bull by the tail......... Hilarious!!

We see in the USA that when there is collusion there is an independent investigation appointed by the DOJ to investigate, and not a "Public Enquiry". Why should this be any different?
It doesn't matter what party, ROTFLMFAO!!!! China is targeting Chinese/Canadian politicians and turning them into 5th Column....and Justin is trying to cover it up! Justin is doing China's bidding, Xi"s little bitch. 😆
 

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Obviously we are seeing the right wingers constantly bashing Trudeau for his so called "scandals", including the Aga Khan vacation. But when something similar occurred for the present leader of the Conservative party, none other than Pee Pee.......... well it was no big deal as it was $8000 less than that reported in"error":

Canadian MPs accepted $620K worth of free travel from third parties, foreign entities in 2017
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73 MPs, including Conservative finance critic Pierre Poilievre, accepted free travel worth thousands


The trips to Taiwan, which styles itself as the Republic of China, were some of the most costly on the sponsored travel list, while the purposes given for these trips were vague.

According to Dion's report, Pierre Poilievre, the Conservative finance critic, accepted over $21,600 worth of free travel for him and his then-girlfriend, now wife, Anaida Galindo, to visit the southeast Asian country in January 2017.

A spokesperson for the Conservative Party later disputed the figure, saying a staffer made an error when filing reports with the commissioner and claiming Poilievre's air transportation cost was actually $8,000 less than reported.

Poilievre said he traveled to "further cooperation between Canada and Taiwan."

When asked to further explain his motivations, Poilievre said it's important for legislators to "learn how people and governments do things in other democratic countries so we can take the best ideas home."
 
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It doesn't matter what party, ROTFLMFAO!!!! China is targeting Chinese/Canadian politicians and turning them into 5th Column....and Justin is trying to cover it up! Justin is doing China's bidding, Xi"s little bitch. 😆
OIC, so using your logic, then Trump was Putin's little bitch? Or is this two different sets of jcpro rules?? ROTFLMAO!! 😂

How is Trudeau trying to coverup when he is doing exactly what was done for the Russia Collusion Investigation by appointing an Independent Rapporteur to investigate the Chinese Interference in the Elections and how to address them in the future?

We know that when the Robocalls affected 2011 Elections, then there was just the Elections Commissioner to investigate that Elections although there were calls for a Full Public Enquiry. But guess who was in charge of deciding under a Harper Government. Of course Pee Pee, who was then contented with just the Commissioner''s report!!

Listen to Pee Pee's very very brief question time to reporters and how he ran away after answering and saying that the "Elections were fair", then refusing to take follow up questions!! ROTFLMAO!!


ENOUGH SAID!!
 
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OIC, so using your logic, then Trump was Putin's little bitch? Or is this two different sets of jcpro rules?? ROTFLMAO!! 😂

How is Trudeau trying to coverup when he is doing exactly what was done for the Russia Collusion Investigation by appointing an Independent Rapporteur to investigate the Chinese Interference in the Elections and how to address them in the future?

We know that when the Robocalls affected 2011 Elections, then there was just the Elections Commissioner to investigate that Elections although there were calls for a Full Public Enquiry. But guess who was in charge of deciding under a Harper Government. Of course Pee Pee, who was then contented with just the Commissioner''s report!!

Listen to Pee Pee's very very brief question time to reporters and how he ran away after answering and saying that the "Elections were fair", then refusing to take follow up questions!! ROTFLMAO!!


ENOUGH SAID!!
Justin is stonewalling a full, open any non partisan inquiry into Chinese interference in our elections. Justin's a Chinese bitch.
 

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ROTFLMFAO!!! This is the clearest confirmation of the Chinese involvement in subverting our elections. You think that you're scoring some kind of a political point, but, since Ontario is part of Canada, you've just offered 100% proof that the story is real -Justin colluded with a foreign power and that's why he's stonewalling. Thanks!
So you think Doug Ford's conservatives were funded by the Chinese and subverting our democracy?
 

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Justin is stonewalling a full, open any non partisan inquiry into Chinese interference in our elections. Justin's a Chinese bitch.
No proof of that, unless you can show us that so called "proof"!!

The only one we all know who was a bitch of a foreign Government is of course Trump being that of Russia. LOL!!
 

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The only election cheaters we see that went to prison were all Conservatives under Harper's watch:

The cheaters on Harper's watch

In 2008, it was a Conservative MP, Dean Del Mastro, who would play the role of Conservative cheater. Del Mastro was convicted last November on three counts of violating Canada’s election laws, also having to do with spending limits. This week, a judge sentenced him to a month behind bars, another four months of house arrest, and a $10,000 fine.

Del Mastro is appealing and on Friday was released from jail on $5,000 bail until that appeal is heard.

In 2011, it was a Conservative campaign worker, Michael Sona, who was convicted of cheating in the Ontario riding of Guelph. His crime involved robocalls in an effort to prevent people from voting.

Also alleged to have cheated in 2011: The campaign of former Conservative MP Peter Penashue, where there are yet more charges of campaign overspending and attempts to hide those infractions after the fact. The trial of Penashue’s campaign manager continues in August.

Now we see a Conservative MPP from Ontario who actually colluded with the Chinese Government. So the Rapporteur will probably dig up more Conservative MPs. Pee Pee must be very nervous with it!!
 
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No proof of that, unless you can show us that so called "proof"!!

The only one we all know who was a bitch of a foreign Government is of course Trump being that of Russia. LOL!!
ROTFLMFAO!! What proof? The PC MPP left caucus because he was financed by China. Exactly the same is happening on the federal level, according to CSIS. And Justin knew about it years ago, been found out and, as per usual, he's stonewalling. Don't you worry about it? Or did the politics made you so twisted, you're willing to sell your own country to murderous China? And for whom???? Fucking Justin?!
 
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ROTFLMFAO!! What proof? The PC MPP left caucus because he was financed by China. Exactly the same is happening on the federal level, according to CSIS. And Justin knew about it years ago, been found out and, as per usual, he's stonewalling. Don't you worry about it? Or did the politics made you so twisted, you're willing to sell your own country to murderous China? And for whom???? Fucking Justin?!
So now you're coming down hard on Justin for not investigating Doug Ford's conservative party and their Chinese backers?
LOL
 

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ROTFLMFAO!! What proof? The PC MPP left caucus because he was financed by China. Exactly the same is happening on the federal level, according to CSIS. And Justin knew about it years ago, been found out and, as per usual, he's stonewalling. Don't you worry about it? Or did the politics made you so twisted, you're willing to sell your own country to murderous China? And for whom???? Fucking Justin?!
Again, post some real proof and links rather than some general alt right allegations. What exactly did they do as the CSIS clearly stated that the outcome of the Elections would have been no different!! No one is stonewalling, when an independent Rapporteur will be appointed to investigate the collusion that so far has pointed in the direction of the Conservatives!!
If Harper and Pee Pee did not want a true public enquiry in the Robocalls that may have actually swung the pendulum in the Conservatives favour, why is Pee Pee being the true asshole of a hypocrite to now demand something that he was once against??
 
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Again, post some real proof and links rather than some general alt right allegations. What exactly did they do as the CSIS clearly stated that the outcome of the Elections would have been no different!! No one is stonewalling, when an independent Rapporteur will be appointed to investigate the collusion that so far has pointed in the direction of the Conservatives!!
If Harper and Pee Pee did not want a true public enquiry in the Robocalls that may have actually swung the pendulum in the Conservatives favour, why is Pee Pee being the true asshole of a hypocrite to now demand something that he was once against??
You should add the Chinese flag to your collage. Justin and Jag are AGAINST full, open and independent inquiry into the China collusion. Full stop.
 

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You should add the Chinese flag to your collage. Justin and Jag are AGAINST full, open and independent inquiry into the China collusion. Full stop.
He's so against it, he created a task force made up of intelligence/law enforcement, created a set of guidelines, created a non-partisan oversight group, sent out information up all MPs, and has now appointed a new rapporteur to look into it.

The only complaint you could have is that's it's not public. But as I've said elsewhere in this thread, it relates to National Security so that may be off the table, and Conservatives have piped up defending the non-partisan oversight group and criticizing Pierre Poilievre's attacks against it.
 
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He's so against it, he created a task force made up of intelligence/law enforcement, created a set of guidelines, created a non-partisan oversight group, sent out information up all MPs, and has now appointed a new rapporteur to look into it.

The only complaint you could have is that's it's not public. But as I've said elsewhere in this thread, it relates to National Security so that may be off the table, and Conservatives have piped up defending the non-partisan oversight group and criticizing Pierre Poilievre's attacks against it.
Yes, his own rat, like in the Emergencies Act inquiry, only this one can do it behind closed doors because of "national security ". ROTFLMFAO!!
 

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Yes, his own rat, like in the Emergencies Act inquiry, only this one can do it behind closed doors because of "national security ". ROTFLMFAO!!
Sure, skip everything else, including the part about Conservatives blasting Pierre Poilievre's politicizing of the issue and affirming the effectiveness of the non-partisan committee that was formed to oversee this. Not to mention they even said it needs to remain secret. Of course, if it doesn't fit your agenda, just pretend it doesn't exist.

Guess I can safely add you to list of partisan shills and hacks that do nothing but troll. See ya.
 
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Sure, skip everything else, including the part about Conservatives blasting Pierre Poilievre's politicizing of the issue and affirming the effectiveness of the non-partisan committee that was formed to oversee this. Not to mention they even said it needs to remain secret. Of course, if it doesn't fit your agenda, just pretend it doesn't exist.

Guess I can safely add you to list of partisan shills and hacks that do nothing but troll. See ya.
If you're not for an open, honest and independent inquiry, like Justin, you're China shill.

 
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If you're not for an open, honest and independent inquiry, like Justin, you're China shill.
Interestingly, if one was a Chinese agent, forcing the government to make the enquiry public and exposing any mitigations we have in place to counter their efforts wouldn't be a bad idea. You and Pierre Poilievre might be playing right into the hands of MSS!

I'm also all four an honest and independent inquiry, which we have. So let's just be clear about that: the only thing we disagree on is the "public" part. Should I say, "If you're not into a secure, independent, detailed, and thorough investigation, you're a Chinese agent"? That would be silly, as I'm sure you're all for it being independent, detailed, and thorough, right? It only makes sense to mention the difference: public or secure.

I would be very upset if the government did nothing. But I can point to a laundry list of things they've done, no matter how much you try to ignore them. And I can point to multiple ongoing investigations involving all major parties, all intelligence agencies, and all law enforcement agencies, and I know even if one group in there did want to bury something, they wouldn't be able to. Even if that group is the PMO.
 
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Interestingly, if one was a Chinese agent, forcing the government to make the enquiry public and exposing any mitigations we have in place to counter their efforts wouldn't be a bad idea. You and Pierre Poilievre might be playing right into the hands of MSS!

I'm also all four an honest and independent inquiry, which we have. So let's just be clear about that: the only thing we disagree on is the "public" part. Should I say, "If you're not into a secure, independent, detailed, and thorough investigation, you're a Chinese agent"? That would be silly, as I'm sure you're all for it being independent, detailed, and thorough, right? It only makes sense to mention the difference: public or secure.

I would be very upset if the government did nothing. But I can point to a laundry list of things they've done, no matter how much you try to ignore them. And I can point to multiple ongoing investigations involving all major parties, all intelligence agencies, and all law enforcement agencies, and I know even if one group in there did want to bury something, they wouldn't be able to. Even if that group is the PMO.
It's the integrity of our electoral process that's at stake. Like justice, not only it has to be done, but above all, it must be seen done. Everything else is partisan spin.
 
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It's the integrity of our electoral process that's at stake. Like justice, not only it has to be done, but above all, it must be seen done. Everything else is partisan spin.
Pure hyperbole. If he appointed Pierre Poilievre as rapporteur, it would be partisan? Not to mention be defined a non-partisan committee can't be partisan.
 
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