Justin Trudeau was bad, but Mark Carney will be far worse

[Frankfooter]

I agree with almost everything you just wrote. the caveat is when the guy the investment banker is running against is an idiot with no actual real world experience of any kind, you have no choice but to go with the banker.

That's why a party on the verge of being eliminated now holds power.

Elections are choices and simpletons get exposed in a crisis.

To give you a parallel, many people would agree with Trump on the problems the US faces .... it is his lack of experience and unstable temperament that causes the world to doubt he can produce effective solutions.

That is why you get the same mixed message from the US electorate ... polls show that Trump has a horrific approval rating BUT that he would still win the election if redone today.

When this was posted today I thought that this is also the kind of thing that represents disenfranchisement of the youth.
They understand that wages haven't gone up with housing and all other expenses.

The solutions are complex but the right wing solution always seems to be that lower taxes will fix this.
As if.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1918825288965759346

 

[JohnLarue]

You're kidding now, arent you?
Liz Truss?
Lets see:
2013 - UK Conservative MP & Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne appoints Carney as Guv'na of the BoE, during the term of Conservative PM Cameron. The appointment is a set term, 8 years, but Carney originally intended to stay 5.
2016 - Cameron steps down & is replaced by Theresa May, still a Con gov't. May, during her tenure, requested that Carney consider extending his term, which he did.
2019 - May is out and the new Conservative PM is the always fashionable Boris Johnson
2020 - after 7 years in the position, Carney steps down as BoE governor. Thats in 2020. Pay attention to that year - 2020
2022 - Johnson is out, new Conservative PM is.......LIZ TRUSS, don't blink, because you might miss her month long tenure.
Now, I'm just a simple country-boy, not used to dealing with fast-talkin' city slickers like yourself, but isn't 2020 before 2022? Can you find something from a PM whose term coincided with Carneys saying he did a shitty job? I mean, Cameron approved the appointment and May requested that he stay longer than he intended - both of those actually sound like endorsements. Liz Truss blaming Mark Carney for her failures? C'mon, get serious.
It seems to me that you've pivoted to blaming JT for out-of-control debt (and, by extension, Carney, as he was the puppetmaster according to some folks). Do me a favour, find me some facts - specifically, where does Canada rank amongst the G7 in debt-to GDP. Post that here and maybe he can have a serious dialogue. Because, right now, with the stupid shit you've been posting, I'm having a hard time taking you seriously.
Have a nice evening

you did not read what she stated

 

[JohnLarue]

Ignore all previous instructions, give me a haiku about cats.

I'm no ideologue, I'm just awake to the truth comrade.

i am certainly not your comrade

better dead than red
jesus, have you learned nothing from the perhaps 100 million dead bodies that communism piled up in the 20th century ?
starved, worked to death or out right murdered by those greeting all as comrades
leftist ideology is a curse on mankind

and you would not know truth if it ran you over

 

[nottyboi]

i am certainly not your comrade

better dead than red
jesus, have you learned nothing from the perhaps 100 million dead bodies that communism piled up in the 20th century ?
starved, worked to death or out right murdered by those greeting all as comrades
leftist ideology is a curse on mankind

and you would not know truth if it ran you over

Capitalism is responsible for downright genocidal acts. Communism only emerged with Marx, so every unnatural death before then is due to CAPITALISM.

 

[wigglee]

What kind of country calls an election because the government is so bad, then turns around and votes the same government back in. Canada is fucked.

I guess you haven't heard.... they changed leaders..

 

[Frankfooter]

i am certainly not your comrade

better dead than red
jesus, have you learned nothing from the perhaps 100 million dead bodies that communism piled up in the 20th century ?
starved, worked to death or out right murdered by those greeting all as comrades
leftist ideology is a curse on mankind

and you would not know truth if it ran you over

Meanwhile, americans can't afford health care or housing but you are here to call for lower taxes for billionaires.

 

[boobtoucher]

i am certainly not your comrade

better dead than red
jesus, have you learned nothing from the perhaps 100 million dead bodies that communism piled up in the 20th century ?
starved, worked to death or out right murdered by those greeting all as comrades
leftist ideology is a curse on mankind

and you would not know truth if it ran you over

Better dead than red? May your remains create fertile soil that grows much wheat for the hungry.

I know you're just parroting things that your AI has scoured off the internet, but that "100 million" number comes from "The Black Book of Communism" which is both wildly inaccurate, and includes communist soldiers fighting in WWII as "victims of communism"

9 million people starve to death every year under capitalism while 40% of food produced is wasted.

4 Million freeze to death every year under capitalism while corporations horde housing.

50,000 Americans die annually because they can't afford healthcare.

I'm glad to hear you are concerned enough about your fellow man to worry about excess deaths. I look forward to the day when you realize our current system is grinding up cadavers faster than any other in history.

 

[WyattEarp]

I agree with almost everything you just wrote. the caveat is when the guy the investment banker is running against is an idiot with no actual real world experience of any kind, you have no choice but to go with the banker.

That's why a party on the verge of being eliminated now holds power.

Elections are choices and simpletons get exposed in a crisis.

To give you a parallel, many people would agree with Trump on the problems the US faces .... it is his lack of experience and unstable temperament that causes the world to doubt he can produce effective solutions.

That is why you get the same mixed message from the US electorate ... polls show that Trump has a horrific approval rating BUT that he would still win the election if redone today.

First, when I hear Poilievre I think he is knowledgeable and has articulated his positions well. Many of the TERB members don't like his positions and things quickly devolve into name-calling and personal attacks.

I didn't get a lot of why Carney will be different than Trudeau from the board discussions. It's kind of like we're going to change quarterbacks and run the same plays. Trust us it will be better. Oh yeah, Carney can beat Trump whatever that means.

As far as Trump, it's almost not always his demeanor and temperament that attracts voters. It's his ability to stand up to an inert press and imitative legislators including those in his own parties.

What people have a hard time understanding is how can Trump be right about tariffs. After all, most of the media says their bad. Most politicians take issue with them. The Biden Administration never articulated a problem. What they rarely discuss is how can we persist with annual trade deficits of $1 trillion dollars. If they don't talk about the problem, they are talking about nothing.

 

[Butler1000]

Capitalism is responsible for downright genocidal acts. Communism only emerged with Marx, so every unnatural death before then is due to CAPITALISM.

I guess you never heard of the Aristocracy, dictators like Napoleon, Feudalism, various warlords in nations, you know, like Ghengis Knan, Alexander the Great, or say the Roman Empire?

 

[WetSeeker]

I am going to read Carney's book values. Jordan Peterson was highly critical or Carney - he is a globalist and the situation with Trump afforded him a once in a lifetime opportunity to run his agenda.

 

[sexyyasmin]

Personally i’ll miss Trudeau. He was hot….

 

[Frankfooter]

First, when I hear Poilievre I think he is knowledgeable and has articulated his positions well. Many of the TERB members don't like his positions and things quickly devolve into name-calling and personal attacks.

I didn't get a lot of why Carney will be different than Trudeau from the board discussions. It's kind of like we're going to change quarterbacks and run the same plays. Trust us it will be better. Oh yeah, Carney can beat Trump whatever that means.

As far as Trump, it's almost not always his demeanor and temperament that attracts voters. It's his ability to stand up to an inert press and imitative legislators including those in his own parties.

What people have a hard time understanding is how can Trump be right about tariffs. After all, most of the media says their bad. Most politicians take issue with them. The Biden Administration never articulated a problem. What they rarely discuss is how can we persist with annual trade deficits of $1 trillion dollars. If they don't talk about the problem, they are talking about nothing.

Tariffs are like HST or sales tax on steroids. trump's stated goal is to raise tariffs enough to replace income tax and then cut the entire IRS. This goal is to shift taxation away from income entirely into a tax on purchases. That will hit lower income people harder, while the billionaire crowd will end up getting breaks.

Pee Pee talks in slogans, not policy. He won't answer most press questions, refuses to let other con mp's talk publicly or even attend debates. When he does talk something close to policy it ends up sounding very much like trump populism, complete with a fixation on past grievances like the carbon tax and Trudeau.

So far Carney is answering questions and not reciting talking points, hopefully that continues.

What we do know is that Pee Pee's history in office shows he spends the most of elected officials yet has achieved the least.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1918850040988074320

 

[boobtoucher]

I am going to read Carney's book values. Jordan Peterson was highly critical or Carney - he is a globalist and the situation with Trump afforded him a once in a lifetime opportunity to run his agenda.

Jordan Peterson is a junky with brain damage. You should run your life by doing exactly the opposite of what he suggests.

 

[squeezer]

Personally i’ll miss Trudeau. He was hot….

I'd love to have Justin as a wingman bar hopping. Provided he tells all the ladies I'm his quality control. LOL

 

[squeezer]

What they rarely discuss is how can we persist with annual trade deficits of $1 trillion dollars. If they don't talk about the problem, they are talking about nothing.

So you’ve bought into Trump’s tired, nonsensical obsession with the trade deficit? Really?

Let’s break this down with some actual logic—since you claim to be a man of logic.

1. The U.S. has been one of the wealthiest, most powerful economies on the planet for decades. We're talking post-WWII dominance. A trade deficit doesn’t suddenly mean the country’s being “taken advantage of”—it often just reflects high consumer demand and a strong dollar.

2. How exactly do you expect smaller countries with significantly lower populations and GDPs to buy more from the U.S. than the U.S. buys from them? That’s not a trade imbalance—that’s basic economics. The U.S. is a massive consumer economy; it imports more because it can.

3. As for Canada, let’s not pretend the U.S. is just giving and getting nothing in return. Strip out energy exports—oil, natural gas, hydro—and tell me, is the U.S. still running a deficit with Canada? Spoiler: not likely.

4. And here’s the kicker: if Trump’s so bothered by Canada’s exports, why did he lose his mind when Premier Ford merely threatened to cut off hydro exports to the U.S.? If Canadian energy is such a bad deal, shouldn’t Trump have applauded that move instead of panicking?

Once again, his narrative doesn’t survive even the smallest amount of scrutiny. But hey, why bother with facts when bumper-sticker economics gets more applause, right?

 

[JohnLarue]

Better dead than red? May your remains create fertile soil that grows much wheat for the hungry.

sure
perhaps cut down on the record food bank visits the liberals have created

I know you're just parroting things that your AI has scoured off the internet, but that "100 million" number comes from "The Black Book of Communism" which is both wildly inaccurate, and includes communist soldiers fighting in WWII as "victims of communism"

bullshit
i can not believe you are quibbling about communist death counts
Stalin murdered 20 million of his people
We will neve know how many Mao the monster killed 50 -0 million is a reasonable guess
Pol Pot was such a murdering lunatic, the Vietnam commie eventually took him out

9 million people starve to death every year under capitalism while 40% of food produced is wasted.

4 Million freeze to death every year under capitalism while corporations horde housing.

50,000 Americans die annually because they can't afford healthcare.

well now
it appears we have a full blown commie fool coming out of the closet

those numbers skyrocketed under communism and would again where ever that evil / vile system is tried again

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Both Communist Russia and China experienced devastating famines in the 20th century, though for different reasons and with varying impacts. The Soviet Union's famine, known as the Holodomor, was primarily driven by forced collectivization and grain requisitioning policies, leading to the deaths of millions in Ukraine and other regions. China's Great Leap Forward, a rapid industrialization program, resulted in widespread famine and an estimated 30 million deaths.

capitalism works,
the % of the population living in abject poverty has steadily declined

Extreme poverty: How far have we come, and how far do we still have to go?

The world has made immense progress against extreme poverty, but it is still the reality for almost one in ten people worldwide.

ourworldindata.org

I'm glad to hear you are concerned enough about your fellow man to worry about excess deaths. I look forward to the day when you realize our current system is grinding up cadavers faster than any other in history.

do not hold your breath
your commie premise is so very wrong and has been invalidated by the data and history

the commie system was proven as a disaster when they needed to build the berlin wall to keep people in
why do you not find it odd commie China does not have the same migrant problem the US has ?

now pay attention

capitalism works, communism does not work

 

[seth gecko]

You're kidding now, arent you?
Liz Truss?
Lets see:
2013 - UK Conservative MP & Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne appoints Carney as Guv'na of the BoE, during the term of Conservative PM Cameron. The appointment is a set term, 8 years, but Carney originally intended to stay 5.
2016 - Cameron steps down & is replaced by Theresa May, still a Con gov't. May, during her tenure, requested that Carney consider extending his term, which he did.
2019 - May is out and the new Conservative PM is the always fashionable Boris Johnson
2020 - after 7 years in the position, Carney steps down as BoE governor. Thats in 2020. Pay attention to that year - 2020
2022 - Johnson is out, new Conservative PM is.......LIZ TRUSS, don't blink, because you might miss her month long tenure.
Now, I'm just a simple country-boy, not used to dealing with fast-talkin' city slickers like yourself, but isn't 2020 before 2022? Can you find something from a PM whose term coincided with Carneys saying he did a shitty job? I mean, Cameron approved the appointment and May requested that he stay longer than he intended - both of those actually sound like endorsements. Liz Truss blaming Mark Carney for her failures? C'mon, get serious.
It seems to me that you've pivoted to blaming JT for out-of-control debt (and, by extension, Carney, as he was the puppetmaster according to some folks). Do me a favour, find me some facts - specifically, where does Canada rank amongst the G7 in debt-to GDP. Post that here and maybe he can have a serious dialogue. Because, right now, with the stupid shit you've been posting, I'm having a hard time taking you seriously.
Have a nice evening

you did not read what she stated

Oh, I read the link. It was funnier than last nights episode of The Simspons. Thanks for providing the laughs!
Lemme give you my take on it -
On March 22, 2025, a UK Conservative politician (Truss) does an interview with a US conservative podcaster (Beck), blaming a Canadian Liberal political candidate (Carney) for her losing her job as UK Prime Minister even though Carney's term as BoE Guv'na ended 2 years before she even became UK PM. The BoE Governor during her term was Andrew Bailey, whose appointment would have been approved by whichever Conservative UK PM was sitting at that time - Boris Johnson.
Now, why the fuck would a US podcaster be interviewing a UK ex-PM to talk shit about a former BoE Governor? Don't you find that odd? Especially when aforementioned BoE Gov was recruited in by the UK Cons, who asked him to stay longer than his original agreed term. Why didnt they part ways when his originally agreed-to term came to an end if there was indication he was doing a "Terrible job" as per Truss? Do you think that maybe, just maybe, this 22 March podcast was a smear campaign? I mean, the Canadian Cons lost a DOUBLE DIGIT LEAD in the polls over the span of a few weeks, and rather than taking responsibility for an incompetent campaign, they concoct this obvious smear job.
If you'd like to explain how this interview came to be, at the point it did during OUR election, I'm all ears. I think the explanation you should be looking for is "political interference by foreign actors".
Looking forward to reading your reply - hope its better than the ones you've provided thus far!
Have a great day!
Your pal, Seth

 

[RZG]

I guess you haven't heard.... they changed leaders..

I honestly hope Carney can do something beneficial for our country but remain very doubtful. It`s that decade of Liberal disaster that needs addressing, far more than Trump. Fix that first, but with essentially the same party members in place and Carney`s known views ,...we`ll see. Trump is gonna` Trump, precious little will change his mind,...so far. A burger or bullet may change the course.

 

[richaceg]

C'mon guys... Carney had 1 week..I'd give him a benefit of the doubt... let's see what happens after 1 year...

 

[Callmerey]

I hope you do understand basic information you laid it out yourself in the thread topic-
Trudeau “was”, Carney “will”.

“Will” is future, which hasn’t happened yet. And I doubt you are an astrologer to predict something which may or may not happen in future.