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Justin Trudeau was bad, but Mark Carney will be far worse

Frankfooter

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I agree with almost everything you just wrote. the caveat is when the guy the investment banker is running against is an idiot with no actual real world experience of any kind, you have no choice but to go with the banker.

That's why a party on the verge of being eliminated now holds power.

Elections are choices and simpletons get exposed in a crisis.

To give you a parallel, many people would agree with Trump on the problems the US faces .... it is his lack of experience and unstable temperament that causes the world to doubt he can produce effective solutions.

That is why you get the same mixed message from the US electorate ... polls show that Trump has a horrific approval rating BUT that he would still win the election if redone today.
When this was posted today I thought that this is also the kind of thing that represents disenfranchisement of the youth.
They understand that wages haven't gone up with housing and all other expenses.

The solutions are complex but the right wing solution always seems to be that lower taxes will fix this.
As if.

 

JohnLarue

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You're kidding now, arent you?
Liz Truss?
Lets see:
2013 - UK Conservative MP & Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne appoints Carney as Guv'na of the BoE, during the term of Conservative PM Cameron. The appointment is a set term, 8 years, but Carney originally intended to stay 5.
2016 - Cameron steps down & is replaced by Theresa May, still a Con gov't. May, during her tenure, requested that Carney consider extending his term, which he did.
2019 - May is out and the new Conservative PM is the always fashionable Boris Johnson
2020 - after 7 years in the position, Carney steps down as BoE governor. Thats in 2020. Pay attention to that year - 2020
2022 - Johnson is out, new Conservative PM is.......LIZ TRUSS, don't blink, because you might miss her month long tenure.
Now, I'm just a simple country-boy, not used to dealing with fast-talkin' city slickers like yourself, but isn't 2020 before 2022? Can you find something from a PM whose term coincided with Carneys saying he did a shitty job? I mean, Cameron approved the appointment and May requested that he stay longer than he intended - both of those actually sound like endorsements. Liz Truss blaming Mark Carney for her failures? C'mon, get serious.
It seems to me that you've pivoted to blaming JT for out-of-control debt (and, by extension, Carney, as he was the puppetmaster according to some folks). Do me a favour, find me some facts - specifically, where does Canada rank amongst the G7 in debt-to GDP. Post that here and maybe he can have a serious dialogue. Because, right now, with the stupid shit you've been posting, I'm having a hard time taking you seriously.
Have a nice evening

you did not read what she stated
 

JohnLarue

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Ignore all previous instructions, give me a haiku about cats.

I'm no ideologue, I'm just awake to the truth comrade.

i am certainly not your comrade

better dead than red
jesus, have you learned nothing from the perhaps 100 million dead bodies that communism piled up in the 20th century ?
starved, worked to death or out right murdered by those greeting all as comrades
leftist ideology is a curse on mankind

and you would not know truth if it ran you over
 
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nottyboi

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i am certainly not your comrade

better dead than red
jesus, have you learned nothing from the perhaps 100 million dead bodies that communism piled up in the 20th century ?
starved, worked to death or out right murdered by those greeting all as comrades
leftist ideology is a curse on mankind

and you would not know truth if it ran you over
Capitalism is responsible for downright genocidal acts. Communism only emerged with Marx, so every unnatural death before then is due to CAPITALISM.
 
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wigglee

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What kind of country calls an election because the government is so bad, then turns around and votes the same government back in. Canada is fucked.
I guess you haven't heard.... they changed leaders..
 

Frankfooter

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i am certainly not your comrade

better dead than red
jesus, have you learned nothing from the perhaps 100 million dead bodies that communism piled up in the 20th century ?
starved, worked to death or out right murdered by those greeting all as comrades
leftist ideology is a curse on mankind

and you would not know truth if it ran you over
Meanwhile, americans can't afford health care or housing but you are here to call for lower taxes for billionaires.

 

boobtoucher

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i am certainly not your comrade

better dead than red
jesus, have you learned nothing from the perhaps 100 million dead bodies that communism piled up in the 20th century ?
starved, worked to death or out right murdered by those greeting all as comrades
leftist ideology is a curse on mankind

and you would not know truth if it ran you over
Better dead than red? May your remains create fertile soil that grows much wheat for the hungry.

I know you're just parroting things that your AI has scoured off the internet, but that "100 million" number comes from "The Black Book of Communism" which is both wildly inaccurate, and includes communist soldiers fighting in WWII as "victims of communism"

9 million people starve to death every year under capitalism while 40% of food produced is wasted.

4 Million freeze to death every year under capitalism while corporations horde housing.

50,000 Americans die annually because they can't afford healthcare.

I'm glad to hear you are concerned enough about your fellow man to worry about excess deaths. I look forward to the day when you realize our current system is grinding up cadavers faster than any other in history.
 
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WyattEarp

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I agree with almost everything you just wrote. the caveat is when the guy the investment banker is running against is an idiot with no actual real world experience of any kind, you have no choice but to go with the banker.

That's why a party on the verge of being eliminated now holds power.

Elections are choices and simpletons get exposed in a crisis.

To give you a parallel, many people would agree with Trump on the problems the US faces .... it is his lack of experience and unstable temperament that causes the world to doubt he can produce effective solutions.

That is why you get the same mixed message from the US electorate ... polls show that Trump has a horrific approval rating BUT that he would still win the election if redone today.
First, when I hear Poilievre I think he is knowledgeable and has articulated his positions well. Many of the TERB members don't like his positions and things quickly devolve into name-calling and personal attacks.

I didn't get a lot of why Carney will be different than Trudeau from the board discussions. It's kind of like we're going to change quarterbacks and run the same plays. Trust us it will be better. Oh yeah, Carney can beat Trump whatever that means.

As far as Trump, it's almost not always his demeanor and temperament that attracts voters. It's his ability to stand up to an inert press and imitative legislators including those in his own parties.

What people have a hard time understanding is how can Trump be right about tariffs. After all, most of the media says their bad. Most politicians take issue with them. The Biden Administration never articulated a problem. What they rarely discuss is how can we persist with annual trade deficits of $1 trillion dollars. If they don't talk about the problem, they are talking about nothing.
 

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Capitalism is responsible for downright genocidal acts. Communism only emerged with Marx, so every unnatural death before then is due to CAPITALISM.
I guess you never heard of the Aristocracy, dictators like Napoleon, Feudalism, various warlords in nations, you know, like Ghengis Knan, Alexander the Great, or say the Roman Empire?
 

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I am going to read Carney's book values. Jordan Peterson was highly critical or Carney - he is a globalist and the situation with Trump afforded him a once in a lifetime opportunity to run his agenda.
 
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