Justin appoints, 😆
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Thanks for this link Larue.
I read it and browsed some other Globe and Mail and Nat Post articles about the funding. I am maybe more confused now though!
Would I be correct or misunderstanding it if it seems the money initially raised through the various gofundme et al platforms never made it anywhere as the campaigns were shut down before the money flowed? But that there was a not insignificant amount that was identified as being from US sources?
In any case, whatever the details of this or the Chinese scheme may or may not be, and whatever amounts there is, I am fundamentally against foreign money being used by anyone for political activity in Canada.
In fact, I'm generally opposed to any political fundraising above a few hundreds bucks per citizen Zero corporate or association/special interest groups. And this is coming from a not insignificant Mulroney gov't bag man. Not in the same universe or scale of (Liberal) Senator Keith Gravy
, but my friends and I got our calls returned the same day!
Well we already know according to all the intel that the interference would have not made a difference in the General Elections overall. One of the ridings affected was in the Ontario Provincial Elections where the conservative MPP was forced to resign from the Conservative caucus for his complicity in the interference by China!!
Really? What about this guy? He won by the way.
Trudeau denies report that Liberals told to drop candidate Han Dong over China ties
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Monday denied a media report from last week saying his office had been warned by Canada's spy agency to drop a Liberal candidate, who is now a member of Parliament, because he had Beijing's support.
And this. How do you know how many seats were influenced. Sorry I trust CSIS's word over Trudeau's
CSIS documents reveal Chinese strategy to influence Canada’s 2021 election
Beijing had two goals: to seek return of minority Liberal government and defeat Conservatives perceived to be hawkish
www.theglobeandmail.com
This a criminal investigation… you are correct. As was quite correctly pointed out to me…CSIS would conduct that independently.
Public inquiry… or appointed inquiry is only an information session.
Right but with all the information we know is the the guy to do the inquiry? That would be like appointing Charlie Francis to run the drug inquiry into Ben Johnson, Ridiculous.
Aren 't you the brilliant one. You did this all this before the investigation done Federal election watchdog launches review into foreign interference complaints | CBC News and before Trudeau picks former governor general David Johnston to probe election meddling claims | CBC News
Why didn't Trudeau pick you?
How much money did this Liberal MP guy receive from China?Really? What about this guy? He won by the way.
Trudeau denies report that Liberals told to drop candidate Han Dong over China ties
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Monday denied a media report from last week saying his office had been warned by Canada's spy agency to drop a Liberal candidate, who is now a member of Parliament, because he had Beijing's support.www.ctvnews.ca
And this. How do you know how many seats were influenced. Sorry I trust CSIS's word over Trudeau's
CSIS documents reveal Chinese strategy to influence Canada’s 2021 election
Beijing had two goals: to seek return of minority Liberal government and defeat Conservatives perceived to be hawkish
Errr.... the Conservative MPP Vincent Ke on the other hand received payments up to $50,000 from the Chinese Consulate.
Also:
BONOKOSKI: The Ontario PC MPP involved in the Chinese interference saga
"A March 10 report by Global News referred to intelligence reports and unnamed sources who said that Ke served as a 'financial intermediary' in Communist China’s election interference network in Canada."
tnc.news
On the other hand that Liberal MP in BC may not even have been aware of the Chinese interference. China has been conducting it for decades to hit those MPs that are vocally against China and making it public that they want to bring in Legislations against Chinese investments. That was pretty clear in your link, but no indication that Dong colluded with the Chinese like the Ontario MPP did!!
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What are you waffling about? Your links etc make no sense in what you are trying to say!!
Have you read the whole link that you posted? Let me do it for you:
Maybe Pee Pee will make you the spokesperson for him in his interviews, where he can then take off from the reporters questions at question time!!
If there were any foreign money flowing to the convoy protestors , FINTRAC would know about itThanks for this link Larue.
I read it and browsed some other Globe and Mail and Nat Post articles about the funding. I am maybe more confused now though!
Would I be correct or misunderstanding it if it seems the money initially raised through the various gofundme et al platforms never made it anywhere as the campaigns were shut down before the money flowed? But that there was a not insignificant amount that was identified as being from US sources?
Convoy money didn't come from 'foreign actors,' CSIS told officials during protest | CBC News
CSIS did not observe foreign money to the protestors, but they did observe Chinese aid to poltical candidates
agreed , this a serous matter
free and transparent elections are the foundation of our democracy
the fact a totalitarian communist regime is messing with our elections is alarming
a full , non partisan public enquiry is essential to restoring public confidence in our electoral process
if Justin Trudeau had any understanding of the responsibilities of his office, he would know a full , non partisan public enquiry is essential to restoring public confidence in ..... Justin Trudeau
but alas he is both corrupt and stupid
Apparently the moron Justin has something to hide
idealist, however likely not practical
the NDP cant raise diddly $ and they can not afford an election , so they support the moron Justin
this is bad enough
We can not have the policy objectives of the other two parties determined by a lack of funds
[/QUOTE]Zero corporate or association/special interest groups. And this is coming from a not insignificant Mulroney gov't bag man. Not in the same universe or scale of (Liberal) Senator Keith Gravy
large Canadian corporations generally spilt their political donations amongst the three major parties, to promote the democratic process
Although it looks SNC prefers the liberals
SNC-Lavalin illegally donated over $117K to federal parties: Elections Canada - National | Globalnews.ca
special interest groups
this should be re-examined carefully
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What you are asking though, is for the PM to initiate a criminal investigation into himself... or his party. Which is in itself is ridiculous.
Making claims it’s rigged…. There is nothing here to rig. The PM has asked a competent professional to investigate if China is funnelling funds into the Canadian political system. If they are, I doubt it’s to one party.
But again… most of us are not married to the PM. If actual law enforcement finds he did something wrong, he needs to pay the price.
Exactly, there was $10 million raised and about half of it was foreign.Thanks for this link Larue.
I read it and browsed some other Globe and Mail and Nat Post articles about the funding. I am maybe more confused now though!
Would I be correct or misunderstanding it if it seems the money initially raised through the various gofundme et al platforms never made it anywhere as the campaigns were shut down before the money flowed? But that there was a not insignificant amount that was identified as being from US sources?
In any case, whatever the details of this or the Chinese scheme may or may not be, and whatever amounts there is, I am fundamentally against foreign money being used by anyone for political activity in Canada.
In fact, I'm generally opposed to any political fundraising above a few hundreds bucks per citizen Zero corporate or association/special interest groups. And this is coming from a not insignificant Mulroney gov't bag man. Not in the same universe or scale of (Liberal) Senator Keith Gravy
But the government managed to shut down gofundme and a couple of other attempts transfer it, though I'm sure lots made across in crypto.
So then jc and the righties claim there wasn't foreign funding because the government stalled it or kept it out of official channels.
Again, you're lying. The -fucking CBC had to report that PayPal took in 88% of donations from Canada.
So are you saying that paypal was the only method used to collect/transfer funds? And/or that is what you are basing the 88% on?
I know there were multiple, well known, fundraisers on various crowdfunding platforms including many with crypto donations. But those got shut down and the cash never flowed.
Are you saying that anyone who mentions those are "lying"?
GoFundMe Blocks $10 Million in Donations to Canadian Trucker Convoy | National Review
The crowdfunding platform said that any money donors do not claim refunds for will be distributed to charities of the company’s choosing.
www.nationalreview.com
Canada Sanctions 34 Crypto Wallets Tied to Trucker 'Freedom Convoy'
Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Monero and Cardano addresses are all on the list.
Gofundme and PayPal were the main platforms for fundraising for the Convoy. Are you suggesting that CSIS lied to the committee that investigated the matter? You should've volunteered your information.
What is ridiculous is the PM allowing a foreign country to interfeer in our election process
The PM has asked ' a family friend' to investigate a matter where he may be culpable
then you should have no issue with a full and non partisan public enquiry.
it is the only option to restore public confidence in our electoral process & it is the only option to restore public confidence in Justin Trudeau.
Take it eez paesan!
I made it clear earlier that I was late to this rodeo, wasn't well informed on the matter so was, sincerely, asking the question.
I'm not so spring loaded to call anyone a liar, least of all my buddies at CSIS.
And I also made my opinion known that I think Trudeau is foolish (at the least) to appoint his daddy's buddy, that the Chinese are a real risk to Canada and there should be zero tolerance. And that I also oppose any foreign cash in Canadian politics in any form.
Capic?I have no issue with any inquiry… including an actual criminal investigation. One that he has zero control over. No issue with a criminal trial. No issue with any convictions that come from said trial.
The Chinese donating to his fathers Charity does meet that standard.
If individual MP’s did dirty deeds on a one off… it’s them that should face the consequences.
So… do you have evidence that the Chinese Government handed money to JT, or his campaign directly? Do you have evidence he knew and coordinated in that? Pony up!
