Jewish Business Vandalized.

[Darts]

What do you think would happen if you had a nazi flag on your car?

It would probably get vandalized.

Of course, you and/or someone else can test my theory by sticking a Nazi flag on your car.

P.S. It's probably not a good idea to stick any flag on one's car because there will likely be someone who will be angry at you.

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[bggolfingmaniac]

Sounds like you described an area that isn't Jewish.

well as a Jew I lived in this neighborhood since 2002, until my separation last fall. It's a very Jewish neighborhood with a huge synagogue nearby, and it's right near a large orthodox population near Bathurst and Wilson. Generally speaking a large concentration of Jews live between Bathurst Manor (Bathurst and Sheppard area), Ledbury (where the protests were), Summit Heights (Bathurst and Wilson to Avenue/401 and a lot of Forest Hill to Cedarvale.

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence knows this is absolutely purposeful location-wise to intimidate us and trust me, it's not fkn working.

 

[basketcase]

They dont. However if they were to march holding an Israeli flag yelling at pro-Palestinians as we have seen some of them do, then people opposed to it will be offended and yell back at them. That is not anti-semitism. How would that person yelling even know they are Jewish? It is less about being Jewish and more about being pro-Israel in these cases.

Sure. Both Jewish people and Muslims are.

Its more about them being pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian and less about them being Jewish. Hence not antisemitic. Atleast in most cases. On the other hand, a Palestinian kid got stabbed by his landlord in the US a couple months ago. That is racist.

Amazing how desperate you are to blame Canadian Jews and justify violence against them. Do you think it okay to vandalize and assault Arabs who support Palestinians or is this just about Jews being allowed to state their opinion?

And it is completely disingenuous to talk about "yelling" when the news reports it as an assault.

 

[basketcase]

Are you saying there are no racist attacks on Palestinians and Muslims now?

Stupid strawman. Unlike you I have condemned racist attacks against Arabs, Muslims, and Jews.

But since you are concerned about hate crime stats in Toronto...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/hate-crimes-data-toronto-police-1.7064086

147 Anti-semitic hate crimes.
37 Anti-Arab/Muslim/Palestinian.

Sad that you constantly try to avoid the antisemitism just because you are part of the problem.

 

[basketcase]

I don't agree with that at all. My problem is with Israel not jews.

But these vandals don't seem to make that distinction.

 

[basketcase]

That's an antisemitic trope.

In what world is condemning anti-semitism an antisemitic trope?

 

[lomotil]

I was not referring to you but open your eyes. Ave and 401 was chosen because it is perceived to be a Jewish area. I drive through that area fairly regularly and I have never seen an Israel flag or any other overt sign of Zionism or pro Israel etc.

Avenue road stops just north of the 401so that there is scant “through” traffic “ going north ( not a major artery ) which would make it easier for the protesters to set up camp which and for visibility from the 401 underpass which is probably the reason why they selected that location.
A set up along Bathurst would be a different story.

 

[basketcase]

There were no immigration laws back then....

You really should take the time to look things up instead of just inventing your own reality. Are you really so elitist that you think the Ottoman empire that ruled half of the Mediterranean didn't have governmental aparatus?

A starting place perhaps.

https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/modern-europe/turkish-and-ottoman-history/tanzimat

p.s. Even if the Ottomans were incompetents like you pretend, If it isn't against the law then it wasn't illegal.

 

[basketcase]

...


But how do you know those pro-Israel supporters are Jews? What if they are Christian? Is it antisemitism still? So it is not about Jews. It is about someone's pro-Israel stance. Anti-Israel attitudes are not antisemitic.

The case was someone being assaulted while the perp yelled anti-semitic slurs. Don't know how you are still trying to argue this.

 

[Frankfooter]

It would probably get vandalized.

And now to a larger part of the world, zionists and Israel are as evil as the Nazis.
They are another supremacist state in the middle of genocide that needs to be stopped.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1746333182356607155

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1746221996319371661

 

[Leimonis]

Avenue road stops just north of the 401so that there is scant “through” traffic “ going north ( not a major artery ) which would make it easier for the protesters to set up camp which and for visibility from the 401 underpass which is probably the reason why they selected that location.
A set up along Bathurst would be a different story.

Yeah they definitely had the interests of the community close to heart when they picked that location

 

[Frankfooter]

well as a Jew I lived in this neighborhood since 2002, until my separation last fall. It's a very Jewish neighborhood with a huge synagogue nearby, and it's right near a large orthodox population near Bathurst and Wilson. Generally speaking a large concentration of Jews live between Bathurst Manor (Bathurst and Sheppard area), Ledbury (where the protests were), Summit Heights (Bathurst and Wilson to Avenue/401 and a lot of Forest Hill to Cedarvale.

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence knows this is absolutely purposeful location-wise to intimidate us and trust me, it's not fkn working.

Bathurst, yes.
Avenue road, not so much.

If they were protesting Jews in particular they'd be on Bathurst or Eglington or hitting Beth Sholom.
Not a bridge over the 401 where they target cars passing through the city on the highway.

And if you're a Jew you should know trying to conflate zionism with Jews is antisemitic itself.

Canadians have a moral duty to protest genocide.
Deal with it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1746543228449419571

 

[Frankfooter]

Yeah they definitely had the interests of the community close to heart when they picked that location

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Exactly, if there were targeting the Jewish community they'd pick Bathurst, as your map shows.

 

[Frankfooter]

In what world is condemning anti-semitism an antisemitic trope?

Every time you try to conflate criticism of zionism with antisemitism.
Which is every single post.

You and shack are the most prolific antisemitic posters here these days.

 

[Frankfooter]

Stupid strawman. Unlike you I have condemned racist attacks against Arabs, Muslims, and Jews.

But since you are concerned about hate crime stats in Toronto...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/hate-crimes-data-toronto-police-1.7064086

147 Anti-semitic hate crimes.
37 Anti-Arab/Muslim/Palestinian.

Sad that you constantly try to avoid the antisemitism just because you are part of the problem.

Except we now have Jewish groups calling marches for Palestine 'antisemitic'.
And we also have Muslims not reporting hate crimes to the police because of Islamophobic cops.

The only way to lower racist attacks on both groups is to deescalate and call for a ceasefire.
If you are concerned about hate, call for a ceasefire.

 

[toguy5252]

Avenue road stops just north of the 401so that there is scant “through” traffic “ going north ( not a major artery ) which would make it easier for the protesters to set up camp which and for visibility from the 401 underpass which is probably the reason why they selected that location.
A set up along Bathurst would be a different story.

They selected the location because it was in an area perceived to be Jewish and in order to cause maximum disruption. Queens park could accommodate many 10's of thousands of people but of course there would be no disruption so what would be the point.

 

[Frankfooter]

They selected the location because it was in an area perceived to be Jewish and in order to cause maximum disruption. Queens park could accommodate many 10's of thousands of people but of course there would be no disruption so what would be the point.

They protested Queen's Park as well.
Where were you?

They put signs across the 401 to hit the most views possible per day.
Unless you're telling me that only Jews drive the 401 the claim is ridiculous.

 

[lomotil]

They selected the location because it was in an area perceived to be Jewish and in order to cause maximum disruption. Queens park could accommodate many 10's of thousands of people but of course there would be no disruption so what would be the point.

The 401 at Avenue has something like 350,000 vehicles go under the bridge per day, the busiest, highest volume highway in North America. Those Palestinian and Hamas flags on the bridge over head would have been seen by a few million motorists which was the protestors primary goal on that almost cul de sac portion of Avenue Road bridge. Intimidating the Jewish community was a secondary effect. The protesters occupying the bridge were trying to message the general population and the politicians. Jews residing in the area are not going to move away.

 

[toguy5252]

The 401 at Avenue has something like 350,000 vehicles go under the bridge per day, the busiest, highest volume highway in North America. Those Palestinian and Hamas flags on the bridge over head would have been seen by a few million motorists which was the protestors primary goal on that almost cul de sac portion of Avenue Road bridge. Intimidating the Jewish community was a secondary effect. The protesters occupying the bridge were trying to message the general population and the politicians. Jews residing in the area are not going to move away.

Causing the disruption was the primary goal and to suggest that the location wasn't chosen because it was perceived to be a Jewish area is to deny reality.

 

[Frankfooter]

Causing the disruption was the primary goal and to suggest that the location wasn't chosen because it was perceived to be a Jewish area is to deny reality.

You don't speak for the protesters.
If their goal was visibility it was an excellent choice.