Jeff Kent MLB

[The Oracle]

And from the article you posted:
Note that Walker had more than twice as many plate appearances and at-bats outside Coors. Considering that, he's awfully close in the other categories.

I guess the old adage that "you can make stats say what you want them to say" applies here.

Eddie does that pass the sniff test for you though?

Bichette, Castilla and Gallaraga all benefited but he somehow didn't?

 

[shack]

Eddie does that pass the sniff test for you though?

Bichette, Castilla and Gallaraga all benefited but he somehow didn't?

He was a better player and didn't need the help. He is in the HOF and they aren't.

Are you disregarding the stats I posted of how he did away from Coors?

 

[gcostanza]

Santo was better than the stats reflect. They what lowered the mound after the 68 season when he already played 8 of his 14 seasons in the bigs.

He was a top defender as well.

According to an organization (ESPN) that knows a little about the game of baseball, Ron Santo was rated the 10th best 3rd baseman of all time. From the players on that list, I'd have scored him 9th, but hey, 10th is Hall of Fame worthy.

All-Time #MLBRank: The 10 greatest third basemen

Who are the greatest third basemen in MLB history? We count down the top 10 on All-Time #MLBRank.

www.espn.com

 

[gcostanza]

Hmmm.....This doesn't agree with that stance.

My apologies.
I had in my head that his numbers were better away from Denver.
I was wrong.
His numbers, offensively & defensively, while enhanced by Coors Field, are solid elsewhere.
For what he gained playing in Colorado, remember that he played the 1st 6 years of his career on thinly padded cement.

From a more recent CBSSports article:

Walker is 21st among all outfielders in history with +72.6 WAR, and he is top five among all outfielders over the last half-century:

1. Barry Bonds: +162.4 WAR
2. Rickey Henderson: +110.8 WAR
3. Ken Griffey Jr.: +83.6 WAR
4. Reggie Jackson: +73.8 WAR
5. Larry Walker: +72.6 WAR

Five All-Star Games, seven Gold Gloves, three batting titles, one MVP award -- Walker hit .366/.452/.720 with 49 home runs in 1997 en route to that NL MVP award -- and MVP votes in seven other seasons.
He had an .860 OPS with seven home runs in 28 career postseason games.

Larry Walker is a Hall of Famer.

Despite his greatness, Coors Field effect keeping Larry Walker out of Hall of Fame

Walker was a tremendous all-around player, but Coors Field undoubtedly inflated his career numbers

www.cbssports.com

 

[gcostanza]

Also, back to Jeff Kent, Lou Whitaker needs to be corrected before debating Jeff Kent's eligibility. I could argue Bobby Grich also goes in before Kent. Higher career WAR and OPS+.

This, x2.

I do not understand Lou Whitaker's exclusion, and Bobby Grich, to me, is a superior player to Kent.

 

[Darts]

Larry Walker Is In the Hall of Fame, Overcoming the Coors Field Bias - Cooperstown Cred

Larry Walker, on the Hall of Fame ballot for the 10th and final time, finally crossed the 75% voting bar and becomes the first Colorado Rockie in the Hall.

www.cooperstowncred.com