Israeli terrorist attack on Lebanon kills 9, injures thousands

Butler1000

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I have not heard any credible information saying these pagers went off on any Doctor or nurse.

You are speaking as if the entire batch of pagers would go off indiscriminately killing or maiming actual innocent by blowing up their pager.

There is NO way that if Israel could manage to get in on the deal early enough to think it through etc, then buy several thousand WITHOUT telling the manufacturer, disaasemble, form explosives to fit, reprogram the operating system to be able to trigger remotely, and then NOT only target confirmed Hezbollah members.

The Israelis are not stupid enough to go to these lengths for a clean, targeted hit to be that clumsy or ignorant of the public relations nightmare that would cause.
They did go off on Hezbollah medics. Considering their day job is probably the same it's an accurate description. But that doesn't make them innocents. Join a terror group, accept their pagers, and this is the consequences.

Still getting stories but it looks like C4 or similar were placed inside the pagers.
 

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Something is not right. Pagers offer no more anonymity than a sms with a smartphone. A smartphone with an encrypted messaging service like signal or telegram is more secure.
 
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I don't know what you are trying to say. Can you explain it differently.

But if you are saying the USA benefits from the Israeli conflict, I'd agree. But it is wayyyyy too complex for me to comprehend and weigh and balance things out.

I watched an interview with a former CIA guy. He says that ANYONE except the top 4 people in the Executive Branch who thinks they really know what is going in in these geopolitical matters, doesn't. Way too many competing interests, changing all the time.
I was addressing the claims of people who think that Israel determines US policy because of PACs like AIPAC who buy off the US politicians.

I never considered the US/Israeli alliance from the perspective of just this conflict. The US has supported Israel for generations. Israel's democracy is closer to American style western democracy than any other country in the region. Israel has served as a western aligned outpost for the US and the west, in general, to exert their influence over the region without necessarily having to be directly involved. It’s also important to prop up Israel to contain Iran. Those are the major reasons how Israel benefits the US and Europe as well.

As well, Israel's technology industry is a world leader and contributes to medicine and defence technology. Israel's intelligence capabilities/Mossad is extensive and has numerous operatives that have infiltrated many countries in which terrorists who want to harm the US reside. Israel is at the ready to conduct some the US' dirty work if need be. They have common enemies as well as common interests.

Undoubtedly the Israeli lobby is strong, partly because of money, but the geopolitical benefits that Israel has provided and continues to provide to the US makes them the US' greatest non-NATO ally.
 

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OP's a bullshitter. These pagers have been imported by way of Iran
and distributed to Hizballa operatives since they try to avoid the normal telecom channels.
Most of the casualties are from that terror group that has hijacked the Lebanese state.
This.
 

Frankfooter

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OP's a bullshitter. These pagers have been imported by way of Iran
and distributed to Hizballa operatives since they try to avoid the normal telecom channels.
Most of the casualties are from that terror group that has hijacked the Lebanese state.
The Apollo Gold pagers are licensed by a Taiwan company to a company in Hungary.
The CEO of Apollo Gold is frantically trying to say his company had nothing to do with it.
The woman who runs BAC is trying to claim she is just an intermediary as well.
This could be the end of pager use globally.



 
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I was addressing the claims of people who think that Israel determines US policy because of PACs like AIPAC who buy off the US politicians.

I never considered the US/Israeli alliance from the perspective of just this conflict. The US has supported Israel for generations. Israel's democracy is closer to American style western democracy than any other country in the region. Israel has served as a western aligned outpost for the US and the west, in general, to exert their influence over the region without necessarily having to be directly involved. It’s also important to prop up Israel to contain Iran. Those are the major reasons how Israel benefits the US and Europe as well.

As well, Israel's technology industry is a world leader and contributes to medicine and defence technology. Israel's intelligence capabilities/Mossad is extensive and has numerous operatives that have infiltrated many countries in which terrorists who want to harm the US reside. Israel is at the ready to conduct some the US' dirty work if need be. They have common enemies as well as common interests.

Undoubtedly the Israeli lobby is strong, partly because of money, but the geopolitical benefits that Israel has provided and continues to provide to the US makes them the US' greatest non-NATO ally.
The Israeli/US genocide in Gaza has destroyed any credibility that the US backs rules based government. The US is now morally the same as Putin and China, just another country trying to establish an empire through violence. Backing the Negroponte Doctrine means that the US is abusing UNSC veto power and trying to destroy the credibility of the ICC and ICJ.

Congrats
 

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As well, Israel's technology industry is a world leader and contributes to medicine and defence technology. Israel's intelligence capabilities/Mossad is extensive and has numerous operatives that have infiltrated many countries in which terrorists who want to harm the US reside. Israel is at the ready to conduct some the US' dirty work if need be. They have common enemies as well as common interests.
Israel's biggest tech export is Pegasus, software used to spy on journalists and dissidents all around the world.
 

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Israel put explosives in Motorola pagers and sold them in Lebanon.
Thousands were injured, a 10 year old girl killed and civilians victims.
Doctors and nurses were killed, with the exception of one American hospital where Israel had them replace all their pagers just before the attack.

Israel is a terrorist state.

All Israeli tech worldwide should be suspicious now.


bwuahahaha oh the tears of the terrorist sympathizer 😂😂😂
 

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And hundreds (thousands?) of Palestinian terrorists had their hands blown off. I guess they shouldn't be putting their future terrorist offspring in harms way by bringing tools of the trade along. after all, who is going t0o carry on the family's honour? These poor kids can't grow up to be real suicide bombers like their grandparents. And keep in mind, their religion promotes the sacrifice of one's own life in the Jihad against infidels as being the ultimate honour! Maybe this is Allah's way of supplying another two "virgins" for dead Jihadists to sexually assault in Heaven? Allah must be running out of virgins pretty soon.

WTF do you expect Frank? You are completely delusional if you think Israeli are going to pack up and move out. Or if you think indiscriminate firing of rockets into Israeli cities is morally ok, but targeting Mamas and Hezbollah fighters as the primary target, with collateral loss of sympathizing "innocents". If Hamas and Hezbollah don't want their children killed (until they are old enough to take up a gun , rocket or suicide vest themselves, then tyhey should not use said "innocents" as human shields.

Using these pagers was brilliant! Max ratio of beliggerant to innocent casualties outside of a sniper.
 

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Something is not right. Pagers offer no more anonymity than a sms with a smartphone. A smartphone with an encrypted messaging service like signal or telegram is more secure.
Nobody said these indoctrinated savages were smart. Lizard brains indoctrinating more jihadists to follow their instructions... or else.

In fact, it could be said that a pager is more vulnerable. Can't pack much C4 into a thin phone.
 
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This ensures less finger pointing by Hezbollah I suppose. I guess the idea of winning hearts and minds is at this point a train that has already left the station.
 
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This could be the end of pager use globally.

Oh no! The end of civilization!

One thing is for sure, Hamas and Hezbollah are not going to look to 'The Grim Beeper' as a gift from Allah

Whatever they use to communicate, even going back to "Get Smart" days, if you see "this message will self-destruct in 3-2-1 💥, the last thing they will remember is 'you can't hide from Mossad'.

The best part is now they have to be afraid of any electronic devices for the rest of their life! 😜
 

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Israel's biggest tech export is Pegasus, software used to spy on journalists and dissidents all around the world.
BIGGEST? In terms of volume, weight, dollar vale?

Stop with the hyperbole. Pegasus software is evil indeed. But for you to say it is their "biggest tech export" is rich. The software is only sold t gov't and the dollar value is unknown.
 
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