Israeli snipers attack Gaza children

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Russia helped Trump to be elected in 2016 and then in 2020 Trump lost to Biden fair and square?

will you agree with that EXACT statement ?
so you do support terrorist then if you refuse to condemn them that means you support them

and that's exactly what I figured you would do

as usual you refuse to answer the question and try to change the topic to something totally irrelevant
 

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so you do support terrorist then if you refuse to condemn them that means you support them

and that's exactly what I figured you would do

as usual you refuse to answer the question and try to change the topic to something totally irrelevant
No I totally condemn hamas, fuck them and their mothers lol.
I am just pointing out that you are never in a hurry to make admissions that you ask others to make.
 

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While the rest of the world sees Hamas as a terrorist group, it seems Franky doesn't think so...
You see the thing about this conflict is, Israelis don't wake up in the morning thinking "i'm going to shoot some Palestines today", they actually wake up thinking where the next rocket will be fired...there is no secret h ow much fire power Israel has, intelligence etc etc...they look ready to go to war vs. all the neighboring countries simultaneously... fire power and intelligence enough to basically remove Palestine from the map.....but that's not what they aim for...the whole world is watching and Israel simply respect what the world thinks....Hamas, Talilban, ISIS, you call them terrorists, savages etc etc...they don't care, they will try to get what they want, they will execute, behead, throw gays from 5 storey buildings and burn communities to the ground....for the sake of...in Frankfooter's words "freedom"...
 
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No I totally condemn hamas, fuck them and their mothers lol.
I am just pointing out that you are never in a hurry to make admissions that you ask others to make.
No I will admit to things somtime not always right away you’re right about that. frank when I asked a question responds with multiple questions and he often tries to change the subject I’ve had similar arguments for the last year with him

you see YOU as a normal person immediately condemn hamas the terrorist they are and go above and add their mothers bonus points for you! frank will make excuses
 
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so you do support terrorist then if you refuse to condemn them that means you support them
So far on this thread you have refused to condemn or deny:

supporting shooting children
supporting apartheid
describing Palestinians as an inferior people
actual terrorism (shooting children protesting)
war crimes
using snipers on protesters
eating hamsters for lunch

By your own logic that means you support all of those things.

While I actually said I'm against terrorism and Hamas and Israel should both be taken to the ICC for investigations. And I'd never eat hamsters.
 

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So far on this thread you have refused to condemn or deny:

supporting shooting children
supporting apartheid
describing Palestinians as an inferior people
actual terrorism (shooting children protesting)
war crimes
using snipers on protesters
eating hamsters for lunch

By your own logic that means you support all of those things.

While I actually said I'm against terrorism and Hamas and Israel should both be taken to the ICC for investigations. And I'd never eat hamsters.
never have I said anyone is inferior its not a word I use, yet another frank lie

and as I stated above I said you would REFUSE to condemn terrorists, would make excuses and try to change the subject

two other posters had no problem condemning terrorists (and their mothers) because they are normal people and normal people don't support terrorists


you support defend and attempt to justify the actions of terrorists its clear to everyone here, you cant weasel out of it no matter what charts or polls you post, people see you support terrorists

I don't care if you do eat hamsters
 

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While the rest of the world sees Hamas as a terrorist group, it seems Franky doesn't think so...
You see the thing about this conflict is, Israelis don't wake up in the morning thinking "i'm going to shoot some Palestines today", they actually wake up thinking where the next rocket will be fired...there is no secret h ow much fire power Israel has, intelligence etc etc...they look ready to go to war vs. all the neighboring countries simultaneously... fire power and intelligence enough to basically remove Palestine from the map.....but that's not what they aim for...the whole world is watching and Israel simply respect what the world thinks....Hamas, Talilban, ISIS, you call them terrorists, savages etc etc...they don't care, they will try to get what they want, they will execute, behead, throw gays from 5 storey buildings and burn communities to the ground....for the sake of...in Frankfooter's words "freedom"...
Hamas, like Israel, has committed acts of terrorism.
Unlike you, I say take them both to the ICC over those charges.
Unlike you, I don't support either of those groups.

The fact remains that Israel has committed way more acts that can be labelled 'terrorism' than Hamas has while actively taking their land and homes by force.
You accuse Hamas of throwing people off buildings while excusing Israel for using missiles to destroy 14 residential towers as if that wasn't way worse.

Kids growing up in Gaza, by the way, have already lived through three wars on them in which Israel fired thousands of rockets, destroyed thousands of homes, killed hundreds and hundreds of people and then shot them for protesting about it. But to you they are apparently 'savages' and you support keeping them at near starvation levels in the world's largest open air prison because 'Hamas'. The only reason I can see that you, like contact and basketcase, seem to think this is ok is because you really do see them as inferior peoples, 'savages', as you said.

So 19th century, settler colonial.

Apartheid doesn't last that long, you should know.
 

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Hamas, like Israel, has committed acts of terrorism.
Unlike you, I say take them both to the ICC over those charges.
Unlike you, I don't support either of those groups.

The fact remains that Israel has committed way more acts that can be labelled 'terrorism' than Hamas has while actively taking their land and homes by force.
You accuse Hamas of throwing people off buildings while excusing Israel for using missiles to destroy 14 residential towers as if that wasn't way worse.

Kids growing up in Gaza, by the way, have already lived through three wars on them in which Israel fired thousands of rockets, destroyed thousands of homes, killed hundreds and hundreds of people and then shot them for protesting about it. But to you they are apparently 'savages' and you support keeping them at near starvation levels in the world's largest open air prison because 'Hamas'. The only reason I can see that you, like contact and basketcase, seem to think this is ok is because you really do see them as inferior peoples, 'savages', as you said.

So 19th century, settler colonial.

Apartheid doesn't last that long, you should know.
Israel acts out of retaliation....Hamas acts out of provocation...again, your ignorance of what's happening there shows....Hamas train kids and terrorize Palestinians. I don't support shooting these kids, but what's happening to them are caused by Hamas. who should take them to the ICC? Why don't you file a case in the ICC about Israel terrorism? Since you're the only person who thinks they are terrorists....
 
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Israel acts out of retaliation....Hamas acts out of provocation...again, your ignorance of what's happening there shows....Hamas train kids and terrorize Palestinians. I don't support shooting these kids, but what's happening to them are caused by Hamas. who should take them to the ICC? Why don't you file a case in the ICC about Israel terrorism? Since you're the only person who thinks they are terrorists....
No, Israel is actively taking more Palestinian land through 'settlements', which are illegal according to international law.
That means that Israel is not slowly invading Palestine, since they invaded and have been illegally occupying Palestine for half a century, that means that they are now trying to claim more and more of what should be Palestine.
As Israel's PM said:
“This government will not annex, nor establish a Palestinian state, everyone understands that,” he said. “Israel will continue the standard policy of natural growth [of West Bank settlements].”
'Natural growth' is Israel using apartheid rule and its military to take more Palestinian land.
That is not retaliation, that's settler colonialism. I mean, they even say they will populate more of Palestine with 'settlers', who much more blatant can you get?

Israel-Palestine: 'No war, no peace' apartheid is Bennett's best case scenario

The Israeli prime minister is first since Golda Meir to propose the racist status quo as a political platform


As for the ICC, they move very slow, but they are moving.
 

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Yes, you are calling the charity Defence for Children terrorists because ...
...I posted sources that clearly identify several of their board as active members of the PFLP, a designated terrorist entity. Do you have anything to refute the source?

Why do you keep trying to pretend that referring to designated terrorist entities as terrorists is somehow racist (while you continually say Israel is the terrorists)?
 
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Israel instigated the violence, they are responsible.
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Again your elitist racism towards non-white people is showing.

Hamas chose to launch rockets towards civilian targets because they chose to. that's why Canada considers them terrorists.
Hamas chooses to send people in the West bank to attack random Jews because they choose to. Again, that is why they are called terrorists.

But of course you have such low expectations on Muslims so you won't criticize Hamas, especially as it gives you yet another excuse to demonize Jews.
 
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No, the rabbi is a really sweet guy who gave a heartfelt speech about climate change the other day. What I'm discussing is the moral twisting required when he felt he had to make a statement on the residential schools while working so hard not to mention Palestinians and colonialism in Israel....
Your anti-Semitism is clear since you think this Canadian (?) Jew is somehow required to compare Residential Schools to Palestinians/Israel simply because he's a Jew.

That and the comparison of Canada's Indigenous people to Palestinians is so full of holes that it is ridiculous to pretend they are the same.
 

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I don't, this is your straw man argument you make every day here to try to claim that I support Hamas when I don't.
In your books, pointing out when Hamas is committing a war crime and when its terrorism is full on, card carrying support.
So when I say both Hamas and Israel should be taken to the ICC based on human rights organizations reports, you claim that means I support Hamas.
Then you call a charity 'terrorists' and defend shooting children again.
When you keep referring to Hamas rockets as self defence and argue that random Jews are actually legitimate targets...
 

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so peaceful protesters trying to force their way across a border

using peaceful sticks rocks and pistols and explosives

Gaza border clashes wound 24 Palestinians, Israeli policeman (yahoo.com)

The violence erupted after hundreds of Palestinians took part in a demonstration Saturday organized by Gaza's Hamas rulers to draw attention to a stifling Israeli blockade of the territory. The demonstration grew violent after dozens of people approached the fortified border fence and threw rocks and explosives toward Israeli soldiers from behind a black smoke screen spewing from burning tires.
Wait what? How did electronicintifada.com miss reporting that? Oh ya that's right, it's Palestinian propaganda. As Jack Armstrong says "get that gaabage outta here"
 
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...I posted sources that clearly identify several of their board as active members of the PFLP,
Your source is NGOMonitor, which is an Israeli propaganda outfit.
You might as well use the IDF as your source, oh wait, you did that too.

Again your elitist racism towards non-white people is showing.
Apartheid is one crime down from genocide, the settler colonialism of Israel is the epitome of racist crimes, basketcase.
Supporting BDS, equal rights and the end of the occupation is hardly 'racist elitism'.

But just like when he talks about Hamas terrorism, Franky only broke the rules because Israel made him.
The rules are broken every day on this board, but there are only a few cancel culture types who can't stand losing debates.
jcpro appears to be supporting violence against the PM, he's still here.
larue trolls and uses enough insults in every post he could be banned for almost every time he posts something.

Your anti-Semitism is clear since you think this Canadian (?) Jew is somehow required to compare Residential Schools to Palestinians/Israel simply because he's a Jew.
48% agree that “Accusations of antisemitism are often used to silence legitimate criticisms of Israel”

Where did I say he was 'required', all I said was that he did and it was incredibly cringeworthy.
Sort of like when you try to call out cantaro for Islamaphobia then turn around and defend shooting children and protesters, using missiles on residential buildings and apartheid rule.
That's also cringeworthy

When you keep referring to Hamas rockets as self defence and argue that random Jews are actually legitimate targets...
I never said that, that's just your attempt to brand me a 'savage' like you do all critics of apartheid to shut down debate.
But remember you think settlers are terrorists, so by your metric that would make them legit targets.

I've repeatedly described the militant settlers as terrorists.
Of course you also said this, and clearly this is a lie.

My house would start with treating the indigenous with respect.
But I'm sure you'll follow that by trying to argue that Palestinians aren't native to Palestine.


Strangely Canada doesn't think so.
Canada supported South African Apartheid for decades as well.
Nelson Mandela was labelled a terrorist.

For now, the NDP are the only party calling for an end to the occupation.
But that's a start and it will change.

When you lost the home crowd, the locals and the international community, how long do you think you can sustain apartheid?
The Canadian Jewish community does NOT support Israeli aggression
 
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Really Frank another attempt to deny that hamas is a Designated terrorist organization they are designated by Canada the United States the entire European Union Japan and Australia and of course Israel

I might just have to sign up for Twitter so I too can post random tweets that you think justify snd support your support of terrorism and Terrorists

Who cares what the NDP voted it means nothing

So now you think you speak for every Jew in Canada that’s interesting you have a real knack of telling other people what they should think and what they should do.

why aren’t you a world leader? Seeing YOU know what everyone actually means and wants, I’m guessing your support defense and attempt to justify terrorism would eliminate leadership opportunities for you
 
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