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Sadly this thread simply demonstrates what I have been saying here and elsewhere for a very long time. Hamas organizes these demonstrations only for the purpose of provoking some young IDF soldier to over react and fire. Dead children are the currency of Hamas and their supporters on this board. The only thing that keeps the Palestinian cause on people's radar are occurrences like this. Does anyone really think that Hamas believes that these demonstrations or the incendiary balloons will have any effect other than to provoke an Israeli response and to Hamas and their supporters on this board dead children Does anyone really think that these demonstrations or the balloons will change anything other than keep Hamas relevant and give an out let to anti-Semites all over the world? Sad.
 
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Sadly this thread simply demonstrates what I have been saying here and elsewhere for a very long time. Hamas organizes these demonstrations only for the purpose of provoking some young IDF soldier to over react and fire. Dead children are the currency of Hamas and their supporters on this board. The only thing that keeps the Palestinian cause on people's radar are occurrences like this. Does anyone really think that Hamas believes that these demonstrations or the incendiary balloons will have any effect other than to provoke an Israeli response and to Hamas and their supporters on this board dead children Does anyone really think that these demonstrations or the balloons will change anything other than keep Hamas relevant and give an out let to anti-Semites all over the world? Sad.
No, its not Hamas.
You're trying to blame the victims again.
The only difference in your post is a touch more civility and you use the word 'Hamas' instead of 'terrorist' or 'savage'.
Otherwise its the same argument based on the same supremacy and settler colonialism and the same refusal to use the word 'Palestinian'.

The attacks in May started with Israeli attacks on Al Aqsa, not Hamas, supported by Netanyahu as he tried and failed to revive his electoral chances.
Gaza has been in an illegal, war crime, blockade now for 15 years.
The UN has called for the blockade to be lifted, as have multiple human rights organizations like HRW and Amnesty.

The occupation has been ongoing for over half a century and Israel is still actively refusing to discuss peace or stop trying to steal more land
Bennett expressed this approach in an interview he gave the New York Times ahead of his recent trip to Washington. “This government will not annex, nor establish a Palestinian state, everyone understands that,” he said. “Israel will continue the standard policy of natural growth [of West Bank settlements].”
 

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Wow, so now you're down to calling charities the 'terrorists'.
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I gave you a source saying that several members of that organizations board are active members of the PFLP, a designated terrorist entity according to Canada. if you have evidence showing the mentioned individuals aren't part of the board or aren't part of PFLP then go ahead and show it.
 

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He was talking about settler colonialism towards natives in Canada, then talked about how many people he thinks are out to kill the Jews and then discussed Israel in that context without any reference to the native population there. Of course there are lots of Jewish groups that have very good respect for human rights and acknowledgement of settler colonialism, like IJVCanada and IfNotNow. This rabbi was not one of them.
Please stop trying to stereotype all Jews and claiming that they all have the same views as you. Even if this rabbi's views are just like yours, you should know that there are plenty of Jews with differing views both here, in the US and Israel.

Enough of your tropes.
I love the way you call out right-wing anti-Semitism while using the exact same tropes. It is obvious you posted your criticism simply because he's a Jew and you think he somehow is to blame because you're obsessed with Israel. This isn't something new. You have repeatedly pretended the "Jewish Lobby" controls US politics and have defended statements from Ilhan Omar even after she apologized for using anti-semitic tropes.

That said, you also seem to have little respect for the opinions of Muslims or non-whites in general as you ignore what they say, tell them what they should do and refuse to hold them accountable for their choices.

You really are the epitome of the elitist racism that was found in the Victorian era.


p.s. Jews are native to the region as well and half of Israeli Jews are descended from Arab Jews (who lived in that Ottoman province or were chased from their homes simply because they were Jews).
 

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I back the law and equal rights.
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So why do you keep claiming Jews in land you call Palestinians are valid targets and Jews shouldn't have the right to pray at their holiest sites?

And why do you not criticize Palestinian society for detesting the idea you want imposed?
 

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Israel is the only apartheid, settler colonial state left...
You can make up all the bullshit accusations you want while ignoring we see the same or worse in Norther Cyprus, Tibet, Western Sahara and probably a few more).

And once again you try to pretend it is racist to call Hamas, PFLP, PIJ terrorist groups.
 
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No, its not Hamas.
You're trying to blame the victims again.
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So Hamas is not responsible when they intentionally launch unguided rockets towards civilian populations and not responsible when they organize attacks on random Jews in the West Bank? Interesting.

The fact that you consider Hamas to be victims confirms every accusation made against you.
 
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The occupation has been ongoing for over half a century
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That tends to happen when Abbas and Arafat repeatedly reject offers and one Palestinian government refuses to even consider peace talks. Unless you want Israel to unilaterally impose a solution.

p.s. Northern Cyprus has been occupied for 47 years. Tibet has been occupied for 65 years.
 

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I gave you a source saying that several members of that organizations board are active members of the PFLP, a designated terrorist entity according to Canada. if you have evidence showing the mentioned individuals aren't part of the board or aren't part of PFLP then go ahead and show it.
Yes, you are calling the charity Defence for Children terrorists because they dared to report that Israeli snipers shot a child protester confirming the child was 70-100 metres away from the Gaza prison walls.
So of course you call them 'terrorists'.
Just like you call BDS terrorists and all Palestinians 'terrorists'.
You might as well just call them 'savages', we know that's what you mean.
How are you any different from Phil?
Phil C. McNasty;6028478 said:
No, Israel's right to protect itself from Hamas savages through apartheid supersedes everything else

After all, you stated you think giving the 'savages', the Palestinians, equal rights would lead to genocide.
 

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I love the way you call out right-wing anti-Semitism while using the exact same tropes. It is obvious you posted your criticism simply because he's a Jew and you think he somehow is to blame because you're obsessed with Israel.
No, the rabbi is a really sweet guy who gave a heartfelt speech about climate change the other day. What I'm discussing is the moral twisting required when he felt he had to make a statement on the residential schools while working so hard not to mention Palestinians and colonialism in Israel. Like you, on this board, besides dragging these threads on forever, you also post against Islamaphobia then turn around and argue that all 2 million Palestinian citizens of Gaza must be treated as terrorists because Hamas......Its a ridiculous moral pretzel. I mean, didn't you say this to cantaro or one of his avatars?
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I'm sure your definition of terrorism is simply being Muslim.
But that's exactly what you do here every time you post.
Like this thread, where you have kept this going for 12 pages while you defend IDF snipers targeting and shooting children, because you claim even this kid could be 'Hamas' or a 'savage'.

You refuse to accept that Palestinian civilians exist, should have equal rights or even that they should not be shot by snipers for protesting for basic human rights.
 

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So why have you used so much bandwidth arguing that Hamas rockets lobbed at civilian areas are self defense and random Jews in the West Bank are legitimate targets (in direct opposition to those rights groups you like you quote)?
I don't, this is your straw man argument you make every day here to try to claim that I support Hamas when I don't.
In your books, pointing out when Hamas is committing a war crime and when its terrorism is full on, card carrying support.
So when I say both Hamas and Israel should be taken to the ICC based on human rights organizations reports, you claim that means I support Hamas.
Then you call a charity 'terrorists' and defend shooting children again.
 

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So Hamas is not responsible when they intentionally launch unguided rockets towards civilian populations and not responsible when they organize attacks on random Jews in the West Bank? Interesting.

The fact that you consider Hamas to be victims confirms every accusation made against you.
Israel instigated the violence, they are responsible.

Israel is the military occupying power, ruling Palestine through apartheid with nukes, jets, tanks, missiles, drones and artillery. Hamas has none of those.
Israel kills 10-20 times as many civilians with a government that publicly stated their goal is take more Palestinian land through settler colonialism and not to even talk to Palestinians about peace.
On what planet would the people being occupied not be the victims?
 

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No, the rabbi is a really sweet guy who gave a heartfelt speech about climate change the other day. What I'm discussing is the moral twisting required when he felt he had to make a statement on the residential schools while working so hard not to mention Palestinians and colonialism in Israel. Like you, on this board, besides dragging these threads on forever, you also post against Islamaphobia then turn around and argue that all 2 million Palestinian citizens of Gaza must be treated as terrorists because Hamas......Its a ridiculous moral pretzel. I mean, didn't you say this to cantaro or one of his avatars?

But that's exactly what you do here every time you post.
Like this thread, where you have kept this going for 12 pages while you defend IDF snipers targeting and shooting children, because you claim even this kid could be 'Hamas' or a 'savage'.

You refuse to accept that Palestinian civilians exist, should have equal rights or even that they should not be shot by snipers for protesting for basic human rights.
attempting to storm a border with explosives guns and other weapons i
Israel instigated the violence, they are responsible.

Israel is the military occupying power, ruling Palestine through apartheid with nukes, jets, tanks, missiles, drones and artillery. Hamas has none of those.
Israel kills 10-20 times as many civilians with a government that publicly stated their goal is take more Palestinian land through settler colonialism and not to even talk to Palestinians about peace.
On what planet would the people being occupied not be the victims?
Frank continues repeatedly to claim he has me on ignore how long will it take them to respond to this post? another lie by Frank

Once again Frank’s statement defending a terrorist organization proves he fully supports hamas a Designated Terrorist group
 

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attempting to storm a border with explosives guns and other weapons i
What border?
You've been repeatedly asked to define where this border is and you refuse to admit that Israel keeps trying to colonize and settle more of Palestine and what you call a 'border' is just part of what should be Palestine.
According to international law its all in what should be Palestine.

 

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for someone who repeatedly claims to have me on ignore you sure do reply a lot another lie from frank folks!

I have never claimed frank himself is a terrorist I have and will continue to point out he does support defend and attempts to justify the actions of hamas a designated terror group

frank has argued that they are not terrorists and that their attacks directed AT civilian are not that bad because they are outgunned by Israel or that they started it first

They started it first Really are you 5 yrs old frank?
First you want me to reply, then you threaten to ban me, then you whine about me replying.
Its my choice to check to see how ridiculous and hate filled your posts are and whether I have the time or energy to respond, mostly I don't.

Look, I say Israel and Hamas have both committed acts that could be labelled as terrorism, including using snipers to shoot a civilian child while protesting 70-100 metres from the Gaza prison walls.
And I continue say investigate both Hamas and Israel for all acts that human rights organizations have reported as war crimes, including Hamas rockets and attacks, Israeli rockets and attacks as well as apartheid, the occupation and the colonial settler land theft.

For you to try to claim that means I support Hamas is incredibly dishonest.

You should stick to bragging about your imaginary gun collection, your support for shooting children and your support of using apartheid to control what you apparently think are an inferior people.
And stop claiming I support Hamas. I don't, I support Palestinians basic human rights and right to self determination.

End apartheid.

 

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First you want me to reply, then you threaten to ban me, then you whine about me replying.
Its my choice to check to see how ridiculous and hate filled your posts are and whether I have the time or energy to respond, mostly I don't.

Look, I say Israel and Hamas have both committed acts that could be labelled as terrorism, including using snipers to shoot a civilian child while protesting 70-100 metres from the Gaza prison walls.
And I continue say investigate both Hamas and Israel for all acts that human rights organizations have reported as war crimes, including Hamas rockets and attacks, Israeli rockets and attacks as well as apartheid, the occupation and the colonial settler land theft.

For you to try to claim that means I support Hamas is incredibly dishonest.

You should stick to bragging about your imaginary gun collection, your support for shooting children and your support of using apartheid to control what you apparently think are an inferior people.
And stop claiming I support Hamas. I don't, I support Palestinians basic human rights and right to self determination.

End apartheid.

YOU bragged several times about having me on ignore yet you continue to respond

I have NEVER threatened you you threatened me with violence and got YOURSELF banned for a few months

Ill explain it to you AGAIN you ready?

I cannot ban you only the mods/admin can ban you YOU break the rules YOU get YOURSELF banned you have been banned many many times why? because you cant follow the board rules that's YOUR fault so you are either very slow, you think your above the rules or you just cant control your anger issues I'm going with a combo of all three

you were banned many times before we ran into each other I'm guessing it wont be long before you get yourself banned again because you just cant follow the rules Oh and too be clear not a threat because I cant ban you

you have NEVER condemned hamas and admitted they are a terrorist group hamas IS listed as a terror group by most of the free world Israel is not....



everyone on this board sees and knows you support terrorists I am far from the only person who has said that
 

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YOU bragged several times about having me on ignore yet you continue to respond

I have NEVER threatened you you threatened me with violence and got YOURSELF banned for a few months
You did in post #60 on this thread and have done so multiple times.

This is great though you will get yourself banned very quickly because you can’t control yourself

you have NEVER condemned hamas and admitted they are a terrorist group hamas IS listed as a terror group by most of the free world Israel is not....
Holy shit, you said this in response to a post in which I said Hamas should be investigated and charged for all acts that can be labelled terrorism reported.
Can your lies be more obviously bullshit and stupid than that?
You should apologize, but I'm sure you'll just try to get me banned instead.

Look, I say Israel and Hamas have both committed acts that could be labelled as terrorism, including using snipers to shoot a civilian child while protesting 70-100 metres from the Gaza prison walls.
And I continue say investigate both Hamas and Israel for all acts that human rights organizations have reported as war crimes, including Hamas rockets and attacks, Israeli rockets and attacks as well as apartheid, the occupation and the colonial settler land theft.

For you to try to claim that means I support Hamas is incredibly dishonest.
 

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You did in post #60 on this thread and have done so multiple times.






Holy shit, you said this in response to a post in which I said Hamas should be investigated and charged for all acts that can be labelled terrorism reported.
Can your lies be more obviously bullshit and stupid than that?
You should apologize, but I'm sure you'll just try to get me banned instead.

Frank do you need accommodations so you can understand how bans happen here? you seem to be having difficulty understanding that I cannot ban you

I am NOT a mod or admin (look at my name it will show you) when you get banned its 100% YOUR OWN doing no one else makes you post what you post

that is not a threat I cant ban you

you have probably been banned more times then anyone here all YOUR own fault, nobody but you are at fault when you get banned

you again will not come out and say hamas IS a terrorist group and condemn actions saying they should be investigated is NOT the same its not condemning them

you support defend and try and justify hamas actions all of which prove you support terrorists


hamas is a terrorist group designated by most of the free world all of its actions are acts of terror and cannot be justified in any way shape or form

will you agree with that EXACT statement ?
 

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Frank do you need accommodations so you can understand how bans happen here? you seem to be having difficulty understanding that I cannot ban you

I am NOT a mod or admin (look at my name it will show you) when you get banned its 100% YOUR OWN doing no one else makes you post what you post

that is not a threat I cant ban you

you have probably been banned more times then anyone here all YOUR own fault, nobody but you are at fault when you get banned

you again will not come out and say hamas IS a terrorist group and condemn actions saying they should be investigated is NOT the same its not condemning them

you support defend and try and justify hamas actions all of which prove you support terrorists


hamas is a terrorist group designated by most of the free world all of its actions are acts of terror and cannot be justified in any way shape or form

will you agree with that EXACT statement ?
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will you agree with that EXACT statement ?
 
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