Israel Haters Silent As Palestinians Gassed in Tunnel. Can You Guess Why?

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Here's what the UN has to say....
Actually the UNHRC which has criticism of Israel as a twice yearly event yet doesn't find much time to criticize actual rights issues such as what has been going on in Syria.

What kind of human rights organization includes Afghanistan, Bahrain, China, DRC, Egypt, Iraq, Saudi Arabia as members?
 

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According to that UN report...
UNHRC report. Very different thing. Of course that report has absolutely nothing to do with Otzma.

We know that Hamas guns down random civilians at bus stops and launches hundreds of war crime rockets. Otzma has a disgusting ideology but how many terror attacks have they committed?

But you would rather criticize a fringe group of nasty nobodies than the de-facto government of Gaza which routinely puts a similar ideology into practice.
 

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Likewise the lovers of Israel at all costs, employ a double standard by being silent about the Palestinian evictions from their homes and happily look away as Netanyahoo is tried for serious corruption. He's ok as long as he encourages the shooting of children, eh?
Who looks the other way? I am happy Netanyahu has been charged and hope he loses this election. Unlike you I examine the depth of offences and getting champagne and cigars is pretty minor compared to what goes on elsewhere in the world.

Sadly both the PA and Hamas are massively corrupt but it would be a death sentence if anyone in their government started investigating them and there is not the slightest hint there will be an election any time soon.
 

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UNHRC report. Very different thing. Of course that report has absolutely nothing to do with Otzma.

We know that Hamas guns down random civilians at bus stops and launches hundreds of war crime rockets. Otzma has a disgusting ideology but how many terror attacks have they committed?

But you would rather criticize a fringe group of nasty nobodies than the de-facto government of Gaza which routinely puts a similar ideology into practice.
Its a UN report, now making its way to the ICC where the investigations continue.

Since you constantly want to demonize Palestinians by trying to compare Israeli actions with Hamas, please tell us how many people Hamas has 'gunned down' vs how many Israeli snipers have 'gunned down' while protesting.
Care to show us the numbers and say which is really worse?

Both should be investigated, but Israel has and is clearly killing way more civilians.
 

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Its a UN report,...
And it doesn't bother you that the group is full of massive rights abusers? I know it doesn't bother you that they have a ridiculous focus on Israel and give real rights abusers a continual pass.

Stop trying to claim that criticism of Hamas is racist. Pretty much the entirety of the Western, rights respecting world consider them to be terrorists.



BTW. Yes, Hamas launching indiscriminate rockets at civilian populations and gunning down random people at bus stops is a worse crime than shooting violent rioters.
 

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Yes, Hamas launching indiscriminate rockets at civilian populations and gunning down random people at bus stops is a worse crime than shooting violent rioters.
How many people has Hamas 'gunned down' at bus stops?
Is it close to the 300 or so protesters that Israel gunned down with snipers for protesting for basic human rights?
Did they injure around 14,000 protesters as Israel did?

On what metric do you think Hamas' actions are worse than the crimes the UN just reported?
Is it because Israel only kills Palestinians and you think they aren't worth as much?
Is this claim just based on your racist views of Palestinians?
 

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How many people has Hamas 'gunned down' at bus stops?...
Are you really trying to justify Hamas gunning down civilians because in their three attacks in a week they didn't run up much of a death toll? I'm not surprised since you have said Hamas rockets aren't a problem because they haven't killed too many. Too bad the organizations you claim to support say otherwise.

Pretty much the entire Western world agrees Hamas are terrorists. Are you really happy to place your ethics with Russia, Turkey, and China over the Western democracies?
 

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Are you really trying to justify Hamas gunning down civilians because in their three attacks in a week they didn't run up much of a death toll? I'm not surprised since you have said Hamas rockets aren't a problem because they haven't killed too many. Too bad the organizations you claim to support say otherwise.

Pretty much the entire Western world agrees Hamas are terrorists.
So if you think Hamas is evil for gunning down civilians then you must think Israel is 10x's as evil for gunning down so many more civilians.
After all, the UN didn't issue a report on Hamas actions, did they?
They just recommended that only Israel be investigated for war crimes for gunning down civilians.

You do agree that gunning down civilians is a war crime and should be investigated, right?
I'd totally back you in supporting a call for both Hamas and Israel to be investigated and/or charged for gunning down civilians.

You're in, right?
 

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So if you think Hamas is evil for gunning down civilians then you must think Israel is 10x's as evil for gunning down so many more civilians....
If Israel gunned down random civilians at bus stops like Hamas does I would criticize them too.

But no matter how much you try and pretend, shooting violent rioters who are intent on Israel's destruction and throwing rocks, firebombs, and the occasional explosive is far less bad than gunning down people for simply being Jews.

p.s. Why do you keep saying Hamas needs to be investigated? They have repeatedly claimed credit (and proudly so) for terrorism and war crimes. The Western world calls Hamas terrorists because they are but you think it is racist to criticize Hamas terrorism.
 

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If Israel gunned down random civilians at bus stops like Hamas does I would criticize them too.
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Intentionally gunning down protesters every Friday for about a year has to be way more evil.
This isn't a random act, this is now government policy.
A weekly event where Israeli snipers shoot across a wall and kill and maim women, children, the disabled, health care workers, journalists and protesters.

How is that not 48 times worse than the one single event you keep talking about?
How is a government policy that guns down civilians not worse to you?
Is it only because it happens to Palestinians, who you apparently think aren't worth as much as a single Jewish life to you?
 

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Intentionally gunning down protesters every Friday for about a year has to be way more evil....
Good thing they don't. They do shoot violent rioters and sometimes other people at the riots get hit. That is bad but is nothing compared to a racist group of terrorists who take pride in murdering random civilians going about their day.

p.s. Why do you keep saying Hamas needs to be investigated? They have repeatedly claimed credit (and proudly so) for terrorism and war crimes. The Western world calls Hamas terrorists because they are but you think it is racist to criticize Hamas terrorism.
 

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Good thing they don't. They do shoot violent rioters and sometimes other people at the riots get hit. That is bad but is nothing compared to a racist group of terrorists who take pride in murdering random civilians going about their day.
There you go defending war crimes and justifying gunning down civilians.
Israel was back at it, snipers gunning down civilians for the 49th week in a row.

On Friday evening, 01 March 2019, in excessive use of force against peaceful protesters on the 49th Friday of the March of Return and Breaking the Siege, Israeli forces wounded 83 civilians, including 23 children, a woman, three paramedics, and a journalist, in eastern Gaza Strip. The injury of three of the wounded civilians was reported serious.
https://pchrgaza.org/en/?p=12059

The fact that you support these acts that the UN has described as war crimes is pretty disgusting.
23 children were wounded and you just call them 'violent rioters'.

Disgusting.
 

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There you go defending war crimes and justifying gunning down civilians....

Disgusting.
Disgusting is your refusal to condemn Hamas for gunning down actual random civilians but are happy to go after Israel for shooting people at violent riots. This is just another case where you consider Palestinian violence to somehow be "self defense".


p.s. we've already exposed that "rights" group's ridiculous bias so it's not surprising a group founded by a terrorist and dedicated only to criticizing Israel describes rocks, firebombs, and occasional explosives to be "peaceful protests".
 

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Disgusting is your refusal to condemn Hamas for gunning down actual random civilians but are happy to go after Israel for shooting people at violent riots.
Your attempt to label Palestinian protesters as not 'civilians' is an attempt to justify murder.
40 Fridays in a row Israel has shot civilian women, children, medics, journalists and protesters.
Gunning down nearly 300 and injuring 14,000.

p.s. we've already exposed that "rights" group's ridiculous bias
You say that about every rights group that reports on Israeli war crimes now.
The UN report that is at the ICC echoes similar reports from Amnesty and HRW.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2018/10/gaza-great-march-of-return/

You are supporting gunning down civilians.
Israeli snipers gunned down 23 children this week.


On 49th Friday of March of Return and Breaking Siege, Israeli Forces Wound 83 Civilians, including 23 Children, Woman, 3 Paramedics, and Journalist
https://pchrgaza.org/en/?p=12059
 
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Your attempt to label Palestinian protesters as not 'civilians'...
Many of them are civilians engaged in or attending violent riots. Even the most cursory search of google images shows the violence at these events. Many of the dead were not civilians; Hamas reported that the vast majority of those dead in the first weeks were their fighters (before they smartly decided to stop advertising the fact).


Amnesty, HRW, and B'Tselem have also repeatedly accused Hamas of terrorism and war crimes but you only listen to those rights groups when they support your hate-filled agenda. Instead you make excuses for their war crimes, pretend their terrorism never occurred and you have never once even suggested that Hamas is engaged in terrorism.
 

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Many of them are civilians engaged in or attending violent riots.
They are all civilians and all protesting behind a wall.
Israeli soldiers are at no risk yet they still use snipers to shoot civilians weekly.

Palestinian teenager killed by Israeli sniper in Gaza
Saif al-din Abu Zeid, 15, was shot in the head by Israeli sniper during Wednesday protest, Gaza health ministry says.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...lled-israeli-sniper-gaza-190307063207081.html
 

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They are all civilians and all protesting behind a wall....
The Hamas fighters aren't civilians and they were the vast majority of the 60 or so dead in the first weeks.

And sorry but civilians throwing molotovs, rocks, and the occasional explosive while trying to breach an conflict zone border go well beyond what Canadians see as protesting.


Why are you so afraid of describing Hamas as terrorists even when the groups you pretend to support say so?
 

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The Hamas fighters aren't civilians and they were the vast majority of the 60 or so dead in the first weeks.

And sorry but civilians throwing molotovs, rocks, and the occasional explosive while trying to breach an conflict zone border go well beyond what Canadians see as protesting.
Wrong on all accounts.

The protests are not Hamas, not Hamas fighters and not using explosives or molotov cocktails.
Rocks and burning tires I've seen, but none of those endanger the snipers behind the walls.

Israel continues to gun down civilians weekly and you keep defending snipers shooting children in the head.
You support more violence than Hamas does.
 

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Wrong on all accounts.....
So why did Hamas say that most of the dead were their fighters, why do most Gazans say Hamas is behind the process and why is Hamas organizing buses from schools and paying families to attend?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/middleeast/hamas-members-gaza-deaths/index.html
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas...rivers-who-refuse-to-take-gazans-to-protests/


Why are you so afraid of describing Hamas as terrorists even when the groups you pretend to support say so?
 
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