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Frankfooter

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Wow. I thought we had gotten rid of the noble savage drivel. Pretty racist to pretend that non-Europeans would be peaceful if it weren't for whites making them be violent. Are you going to pretend that there hasn't been war in the region (just like everywhere else) continuously for thousands and thousands of years. But I'm sure you have great evidence that the wars between Akkad and Sumer were caused by European colonialism.
You are backing the guy who keeps using the noble/savage comparison.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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No Islam is not violent.

People can be violent and violent people belong to all religions. Similarly anti-LGBTQ people belong to all religions. You started the LGBTQ hate thread, remember?
Islam clearly forbids LGBTQ.
And no muslim country allows gays to live their lives openly.

So why do you support this religion??
 
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Frankfooter

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Hundred and five years of fighting since Arab mobs attacked indigenous Jewish populations after being incited over Jews immigrating to the region.
This is the first time you've admitted that zionism was the original problem, with a foreign movement to colonize Palestine with 'Jews immigrating to the region'.
 
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Butler1000

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You are all over the place.

It is democratic to protest. Peacefully. For a cause that you believe in.

It is also democratic to boycott and demand boycott of businesses that support mass murder of the Palestinians.

There is nothing illegal or overtly dramatic about this. Its perfectly democratic and legal, not to mention morally correct.



All of those conflicts had a western hand in it. Leave them to their devices and they mind their own business. I am not about to rehash history with someone who is enamoured with this Trump constructed reality. So you may want to snap out of it.



Shit is happening because the Israelis have slaughtered, brutalized and violently dispossessed them for 75 years. This is not some one off incident out of the blue. This is just one, in over 75 years of fighting and there will be many more unless something is done to resolve the conflict. You cannot oppress and brutalize someone and expect no backlash.



Except praying is very different from waving the Nazi flag around.



No Islam is not violent.

People can be violent and violent people belong to all religions. Similarly anti-LGBTQ people belong to all religions. You started the LGBTQ hate thread, remember?
Leave them to their business and they kill eachother. As they have for centuries. To deny this is ridiculous. The concepts of Jihad and Martyrdom prove than. Its written right into their belief system.

A voluntary belief system not unlike Nazism. Who in fact collaborated with the Nazis.

How can you support a belief that promotes homophoba, misogyny and war/violence as a means of recuitment and enforced religious assimilation?
 

danmand

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It was kind of fun for a couple of hours to see how the monkey and his sidekicks are filling pages after pages with posts against Hamas and Muslims in general, as if that could justify the genocide and ethnic cleansing, and the other war crimes Israel is guilty of.

Of course, nothing can justify genocide and ethnic cleansing, or the other war crimes Israel is guilty of, with full support from Western powers and the media.

I will go back to getting my funnies from reading about Michelle Obama being Big Mike on X.
 
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toguy5252

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You are all over the place.

It is democratic to protest. Peacefully. For a cause that you believe in.

It is also democratic to boycott and demand boycott of businesses that support mass murder of the Palestinians.

There is nothing illegal or overtly dramatic about this. Its perfectly democratic and legal, not to mention morally correct.



All of those conflicts had a western hand in it. Leave them to their devices and they mind their own business. I am not about to rehash history with someone who is enamoured with this Trump constructed reality. So you may want to snap out of it.



Shit is happening because the Israelis have slaughtered, brutalized and violently dispossessed them for 75 years. This is not some one off incident out of the blue. This is just one, in over 75 years of fighting and there will be many more unless something is done to resolve the conflict. You cannot oppress and brutalize someone and expect no backlash.



Except praying is very different from waving the Nazi flag around.



No Islam is not violent.

People can be violent and violent people belong to all religions. Similarly anti-LGBTQ people belong to all religions. You started the LGBTQ hate thread, remember?
Nice try. You were defending interfering with traffic, people, business etc. that is not demonstrating that is breaking the law,

And things are happening because of the barbarity of Hamas including imbedding their rockets and infrastructure in hospitals, schools etc. Every day more tunnels are found and invariably in what otherwise appear to be civilian building. A tunnel entrance was found in a child’s bedroom. These are your heros.
 
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nottyboi

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Are you claiming that Japan did not surrender after the US dropped a couple of nukes? Are you claiming to be that ignorant? How pathetic you look.
Lets look at the sequence of events
Hiroshima Aug 6th 1945
Nagasaki Aug 9th 1945
Soviet invasino of Manchuria Aug 9 th 1945
Soviets complete defeat of the Japanese army in Manchura Aug 20.

So in 11 days a 1m man Soviiet army ripped through a intact Japanese army. and then 12 days later they surrendered.
 

toguy5252

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It was kind of fun for a couple of hours to see how the monkey and his sidekicks are filling pages after pages with posts against Hamas and Muslims in general, as if that could justify the genocide and ethnic cleansing, and the other war crimes Israel is guilty of.

Of course, nothing can justify genocide and ethnic cleansing, or the other war crimes Israel is guilty of, with full support from Western powers and the media.
I have not heard anyone justifying a genocide or ethnic cleansing which is not occurring.
 
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nottyboi

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My barber knows more than that ex British diplomat if that's the reports you've been hearing...hamas recruits children as young as 12, then when shit hits the fan, they become Palestinian again and counted as civilian death....
So what? Ukraine is sending kids to war. Many nations have done it what does that have to do with anything when you are bombing infants still being breast fed by their mothers? If you listen to your barber then that pretty much explains the level of bullshit rubbish you come up with.
 
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Butler1000

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It was kind of fun for a couple of hours to see how the monkey and his sidekicks are filling pages after pages with posts against Hamas and Muslims in general, as if that could justify the genocide and ethnic cleansing, and the other war crimes Israel is guilty of.

Of course, nothing can justify genocide and ethnic cleansing, or the other war crimes Israel is guilty of, with full support from Western powers and the media.

I will go back to getting my funnies from reading about Michelle Obama being Big Mike on X.
I agree that's what's happening. But what you aren't saying is the Muslims feel the same way and want the same thing.

And neither side will budge.

So, now you have to make a choice.

Do nothing and let them fight it out
Invade and occupy to seperate them
Support the one that best aligns to your values.

What's YOUR choice?
 

danmand

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I agree that's what's happening. But what you aren't saying is the Muslims feel the same way and want the same thing.

And neither side will budge.

So, now you have to make a choice.

Do nothing and let them fight it out
Invade and occupy to seperate them
Support the one that best aligns to your values.

What's YOUR choice?
I have no choice, as have none of the populations of Europe and North America.

The governments of Europe and North America are all unconditionally supporting what Israel is doing, and supplying (mostly USA) the weapons to do it. The media is 100% in support.

I doubt that there is a clear majority for the destruction of Gaza in the populations of Europe and even North America.
 

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Even the US admits that Israel has been carpet bombing Gaza. A few weeks ago people were losing it when I called it carpet bombing.
Maybe because it was NOT carpet bombing.
Just like there is NO apartheid.
Just like there is NO genocide.

Racists like you and damndan gonna spew your hate.
 
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