Israel at war

[Kautilya]

 

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This was 24 years ago.
This didn't start Oct 7.

 

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This is a three year old kid dying of starvation at the hand of zionism.

Its systematic and intentional.

 

[Kautilya]

 

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Children are starving to death at the hands of a country on the same moral footing as Isis and the Taliban.

Israel joins ISIL, Taliban, Sudan on UN Blacklist of Violators of Children, Killing or Maiming 20,000 last Year

The Israel government is calling on the IDF to stop protecting aid convoys to Gaza, so Israeli terrorists can attack them.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1801465770553078193

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1796632814441664840

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1801339586993393828

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

8. The mission team also faced specific challenges in gathering and verifying information on the occurrence of conflict-related sexual violence. The main challenge was the limited number of and access to survivors/victims of sexual violence, and to survivors and witnesses of the 7 October attacks

Exactly, UN had limited access because the Oct. 7th victims are all dead

 

[Kautilya]

Exactly, UN had limited access because the Oct. 7th victims are all dead

No they are not all dead. That is factually and demonstrably untrue.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

No they are not all dead. That is factually and demonstrably untrue

So 1,200 people didnt die on Oct. 7th??

Are you a holocaust denier as well??

 

[Kautilya]

So 1,200 people didnt die on Oct. 7th??

Are you a holocaust denier as well??

We are talking about survivors of these alleged rapes. The UN mission concluded that these survivors would not come forward even when urged.

The very statement you quoted, says that they had access. Limited access, is still access. And it was not limited because of survivors dying, because then they wouldn't be called survivors in the first place! . It was limited because they did not want to come forward, even when urged, as it was explained in the very same sentence that you conveniently edited out which I will quote here - " ...it did not meet with any survivor/victim of sexual violence from 7 October despite concerted efforts encouraging them to come forward".

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

We are talking about survivors of these alleged rapes. The UN mission concluded that these survivors would not come forward even when urged.

The very statement you quoted, says that they had access. Limited access, is still access. And it was not limited because of survivors dying. It was limited because they did not want to come forward, even when urged, as it was explained in the very same sentence that you conveniently edited out which I will quote here - " ...it did not meet with any survivor/victim of sexual violence from 7 October despite concerted efforts encouraging them to come forward".

Maybe they felt ashamed?? Ever think of that??

BTW do you acknowledge the holocaust happened?? Yes or no??

 

[Kautilya]

Maybe they felt ashamed?? Ever think of that??

BTW do you acknowledge the holocaust happened?? Yes or no??

Of course the holocaust perpetrated by Western European Christians happened. Jews have always suffered under the Europeans. Infact the most famous Jew, Jesus himself, was killed by Europeans. Go figure.

It could have been any reason. May be they were ashamed. May be they did not trust the UN as it was mentioned in the report. Or may be the rapes just did not happen.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Or may be the rapes just did not happen.

They most definitely happened. Unless you think NY Times is lying, and are "zionists" as well

https://archive.ph/GFkBT

In a grainy video, you can see her, lying on her back, dress torn, legs spread, vagina exposed. Her face is burned beyond recognition and her right hand covers her eyes.
The video was shot in the early hours of Oct. 8 by a woman searching for a missing friend at the site of the rave in southern Israel where, the day before, Hamas terrorists massacred hundreds of young Israelis.

The video went viral, with thousands of people responding, desperate to know if the woman in the black dress was their missing friend, sister or daughter.
One family knew exactly who she was — Gal Abdush, mother of two from a working-class town in central Israel, who disappeared from the rave that night with her husband.

As the terrorists closed in on her, trapped on a highway in a line of cars of people trying to flee the party, she sent one final WhatsApp message to her family: “You don’t understand.”
Based largely on the video evidence — which was verified by The New York Times — Israeli police officials said they believed that Ms. Abdush was raped, and she has become a symbol of the horrors visited upon Israeli women and girls during the Oct. 7 attacks.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Relying on video footage, photographs, GPS data from mobile phones and interviews with more than 150 people, including witnesses, medical personnel, soldiers and rape counselors, The Times identified at least seven locations where Israeli women and girls appear to have been sexually assaulted or mutilated

Four witnesses described in graphic detail seeing women raped and killed at two different places along Route 232, the same highway where Ms. Abdush’s half-naked body was found sprawled on the road at a third location.

And The Times interviewed several soldiers and volunteer medics who together described finding more than 30 bodies of women and girls in and around the rave site and in two kibbutzim in a similar state as Ms. Abdush’s — legs spread, clothes torn off, signs of abuse in their genital areas.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Many of the accounts are difficult to bear, and the visual evidence is disturbing to see.
The Times viewed photographs of one woman’s corpse that emergency responders discovered in the rubble of a besieged kibbutz with dozens of nails driven into her thighs and groin.
The Times also viewed a video, provided by the Israeli military, showing two dead Israeli soldiers at a base near Gaza who appeared to have been shot directly in their vaginas.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Sapir, a 26-year-old accountant, has become one of the Israeli police’s key witnesses. She does not want to be fully identified, saying she would be hounded for the rest of her life if her last name were revealed.

She attended the rave with several friends and provided investigators with graphic testimony. She also spoke to The Times. In a two-hour interview outside a cafe in southern Israel, she recounted seeing groups of heavily armed gunmen rape and kill at least five women.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

The first victim she said she saw was a young woman with copper-color hair, blood running down her back, pants pushed down to her knees. One man pulled her by the hair and made her bend over. Another penetrated her, Sapir said, and every time she flinched, he plunged a knife into her back.

She said she then watched another woman “shredded into pieces.” While one terrorist raped her, she said, another pulled out a box cutter and sliced off her breast.
“One continues to rape her, and the other throws her breast to someone else, and they play with it, throw it, and it falls on the road,” Sapir said.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

One continues to rape her, and the other throws her breast to someone else, and they play with it, throw it, and it falls on the road,” Sapir said.
She said the men sliced her face and then the woman fell out of view. Around the same time, she said, she saw three other women raped and terrorists carrying the severed heads of three more women.

Sapir provided photographs of her hiding place and her wounds, and police officials have stood by her testimony and released a video of her, with her face blurred, recounting some of what she saw.

Yura Karol, a 22-year-old security consultant, said he was hiding in the same spot, and he can be seen in one of Sapir’s photos. He and Sapir were part of a group of friends who had met up at the party. In an interview, Mr. Karol said he barely lifted his head to look at the road but he also described seeing a woman raped and killed.

Since that day, Sapir said, she has struggled with a painful rash that spread across her torso, and she can barely sleep, waking up at night, heart pounding, covered in sweat.

 

[Kautilya]

They most definitely happened. Unless you think NY Times is lying, and are "zionists" as well

https://archive.ph/GFkBT

Ah the NYT article that has been soundly criticized and laughed at. The editorial process behind the article was criticized, with concerns raised including the use of inexperienced reporters, an over reliance on witness testimony, weak corroboration, and a lack of supporting forensic evidence.

On 29 April 2024, more than 50 tenured journalism professors signed a letter calling on the New York Times to "immediately commission a group of journalism experts to conduct a thorough and full independent review of the reporting, editing and publishing processes for ["Screams Without Words"] and release a report of the findings."

In short it was a bullshit Israeli propaganda piece. Nothing more.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Ah the NYT article that has been soundly criticized and laughed at. The editorial process behind the article was criticized, with concerns raised including the use of inexperienced reporters, an over reliance on witness testimony, weak corroboration, and a lack of supporting forensic evidence.

On 29 April 2024, more than 50 tenured journalism professors signed a letter calling on the New York Times to "immediately commission a group of journalism experts to conduct a thorough and full independent review of the reporting, editing and publishing processes for ["Screams Without Words"] and release a report of the findings."

In short it was a bullshit Israeli propaganda piece. Nothing more

The NY Times stands by its story. I believe them.
The only people who are in denial are antisemites

 

[Kautilya]

The NY Times stands by its story. I believe them.
The only people who are in denial are antisemites

Yes the NYT stands by its story after embarrassing themselves via their poor journalistic practices. Yes the many tenured professors of journalism must all be antisemites. Support for Israel in this war is rooted in racism.