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The military leader of Hamas has said he believes he has gained the upper hand over Israel and that the spiralling civilian death toll in Gaza would work in the militant group’s favor, according to a report by the Wall Street Journal, citing leaked messages the newspaper said it had seen.

“We have the Israelis right where we want them,” Yahya Sinwar told other Hamas leaders recently, according to one of the messages, the WSJ reported Monday. In another, Sinwar is said to have described civilian deaths as “necessary sacrifices” while citing past independence-related conflicts in countries like Algeria.

 
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the spiralling civilian death toll in Gaza would work in the militant group’s favor,
Of course it does. Its what we've been saying all along. Israel has created 1000s of Hamas fighters of the future. What that also means is that Hamas is going nowhere - as was predicted.
 
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The military leader of Hamas has said he believes he has gained the upper hand over Israel and that the spiralling civilian death toll in Gaza would work in the militant group’s favor, according to a report by the Wall Street Journal, citing leaked messages the newspaper said it had seen.

“We have the Israelis right where we want them,” Yahya Sinwar told other Hamas leaders recently, according to one of the messages, the WSJ reported Monday. In another, Sinwar is said to have described civilian deaths as “necessary sacrifices” while citing past independence-related conflicts in countries like Algeria.

Sinwar and Netanyahu - the "two psychopaths in charge"...
 

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Yes, Hamas was responding to ...
Hamas committed a massive terror attack against mainly civilian targets that not only derailed a continuing improvement in the opportunities for Gazans but started a war, all because Sinwar thinks dead Palestinians look good in pictures.
 
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Nope. Facts disagree with you. Both sides take hostages. ...
Israel arrests people engaged or suspected of violent acts. Hamas took hostages because they were in Israel.

The proof? The ICC, ICJ, and UN all demanded Hamas immediately and unconditionally release their hostages. No such demand to Israel.
 
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One side is anally raping prisoners to death with hot metal rods.
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Hamas should stop doing that.

Just another case of your asinine double standard. UN reports on Hamas' use of sexual violence and you claim it's an Israeli conspiracy but some rando on twitter? Must be true :rolleyes: .
 
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The Israeli government doesn’t seem to know up from down. It’s their proposal and the text has already been leaked
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Netanyahu backs the ceasefire. That's why he sent the negotiators. He may say different things in the news but that's just playing politics to cover hi based.

Meanwhile Hamas' political arm makes noises about the deal but Sinwar wants the deaths so they rejected the UNSC demand and are still pretending to negotiate.
 

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Did the Jews start killing civilian germans? you seem to give Hamas excuse to kill civilians again...
The Nazis convinced their people that was happening. They spent a decade brainwashing the people about Jews ruling the country and being responsible for all the world's problems. Sound familiar?
 
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Israel arrests people engaged or suspected of violent acts. Hamas took hostages because they were in Israel.

The proof? The ICC, ICJ, and UN all demanded Hamas immediately and unconditionally release their hostages. No such demand to Israel.
Nope. Those people Israel "arrests" are a) Under military rule and are not subject to Israeli civil law. b) Are terrorized and kidnapped often times in the middle of the night. c) They are held without due process or trial and tortured in custody. d) The kids that are held in such fashion are often time subjected to rape and sexual assault. As such those arrests are unlawful and amount to state kidnapping and hostage taking.
 
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Hamas are Palestinians, rich.
You can't use that as an excuse to strip Palestinians of their right to self defence against an illegal occupation.
Do you think Palestinians have the right to self defence or not?
Look at the linguistic gymnastics to avoid admitting Hamas are a problem.

Most Palestinians aren't Hamas. Hamas is a repressive terror group that targets civilians Jews and abuses the people of Gaza. They deserve to be condemned. This is just another attempt of your to claim criticizing Gaza's leadership is racist while you condemn all of Israel.
 

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More excuses. The UN, ICC, and ICJ disagree with you.

And funny that a guy who backed the killing of a Sikh activist is upset when police forces go to arrest criminal suspects.
No they dont disagree with me. The UN has infact demanded a probe into the torture and mistreatment of prisoners. The UN has also condemned the rape and sexual abuse of Palestinian women and children in Israeli prisons.

And yes, the Sikh "activist" aka terrorist that I did not mind being killed. The same way I did not mind the 3 comatose, bedridden Hamas guys being bravely shot by a high tech Israeli assassination squad supported by drones, planes, the works.
 

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That's a confession of ignorance, grandpa.
Your little buddy's posts make such confessions daily.

Geno, what is a Ziontologist? Please be true to your word and answer directly.

You realize that every time you attempt to insult me with your new idiotic nickname (#6?), you are including your grandfather as well. Others are now calling you out for being an ageist.

Once and for all admit that Amoeba's nickname for me is far superior to any of yours. He's had your back for so long, but you are so egotistical you are unable to acknowledge his work.
 
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