Israel at war

mandrill

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Hamas was only created in 1987... shitloads of deaths happened before they came around. It's likely the members of Hamas are together with a passion to retaliate?
Well, they certainly like to gang rape Israeli women and burn Israeli babies alive. But Arabs have been pogromming Jews for centuries doing just that. They just call themselves "Hamas" these days.

Btw, how many gays have Hamas stoned to death in public in the last week or so?

Can't forget the other Sharia law stuff you have to do, can you?
 

mandrill

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I don't know anything much about Hamas or Isreal, I don't get into politics and religion much tbh. But I do know a thing or two about people doing their own time. and about people who don't take ownership for their wrongdoings. You seem to know a lot about it though, why dont you tell us all how many have died on each side, and the atrocities against others on either side... the actually numbers would be enlightening.
You can go look up IDF casualties.

The Hamas figures for Gaza are notorious bullshit and not worth citing.
 

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I don't know anything much about Hamas or Isreal, I don't get into politics and religion much tbh. But I do know a thing or two about people doing their own time. and about people who don't take ownership for their wrongdoings. You seem to know a lot about it though, why dont you tell us all how many have died on each side, and the atrocities against others on either side... the actually numbers would be enlightening.
Fucked around and found out.
Don't start shit if you can't back your shit up, period!
 
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Hezbollah's status as a legitimate political party, a terrorist group, a resistance movement, or some combination thereof is a contentious issue.[377]

As of October 2020, Hezbollah or its military wing are considered terrorist organizations by at least 26 countries, as well as by the European Union and since 2017 by most member states of the Arab League, with the exception of Iraq and Lebanon, where Hezbollah is the most powerful political party.[378] In June 2024, the Arab League leadership has announced that it no longer views Hezbollah as a terrorist organization.[379]

The countries that have designated Hezbollah a terrorist organization include: the Gulf Cooperation Council,[380] and their members Saudi Arabia,[381] Bahrain,[382] United Arab Emirates,[381] as well as Argentina,[383] Canada,[384] Colombia,[385] Estonia,[386] Germany,[387] Honduras,[388] Israel,[389] Kosovo,[390] Lithuania,[391] Paraguay,[392] Serbia,[386] Slovenia,[393] United Kingdom,[394] United States,[395] and Guatemala.[396]

The EU differentiates between Hezbollah's political wing and military wing, banning only the latter, though Hezbollah itself does not recognize such a distinction.[386] Hezbollah maintains that it is a legitimate resistance movement fighting for the liberation of Lebanese territory.

There is a "wide difference" between American and Arab perception of Hezbollah.[68] Several Western countries officially classify Hezbollah or its external security wing as a terrorist organization, and some of their violent acts have been described as terrorist attacks. However, throughout most of the Arab and Muslim worlds, Hezbollah is referred to as a resistance movement, engaged in national defense.[107][397][398] Even within Lebanon, sometimes Hezbollah's status as either a "militia" or "national resistance" has been contentious. In Lebanon, although not universally supported, Hezbollah is widely seen as a legitimate national resistance organization defending Lebanon, and has been described by the Lebanese information minister as an important ally in fighting terrorist groups.[68][399]

The United Nations Security Council has never listed Hezbollah as a terrorist organization under its sanctions list, although some of its members have done so individually. The United Kingdom listed Hezbollah's military wing as a terrorist organization[400] until May 2019 when the entire organization was proscribed,[401] and the United States[402] lists the entire group as such. Russia has considered Hezbollah a legitimate sociopolitical organization,[403] and the People's Republic of China remains neutral and maintains contacts with Hezbollah.[citation needed][404]

In May 2013, France and Germany released statements that they will join other European countries in calling for an EU-blacklisting of Hezbollah as a terror group.[405] In April 2020 Germany designated the organization—including its political wing—as a terrorist organization, and banned any activity in support of Hezbollah.[406]

The list of countries that say Israel is a terrorist state is now almost as big.
If everyone says everyone else is a terrorist does the world officially enter the Purge?

 
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shack

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Hey Lefties?? You guys used the excuse that Gaza is occupied
So anxious to score political points, Phil is lumping people like me, basketcase, mandrill and others lefties and therefore accusing us of supporting Hamas.

Only a classic trump Devotee could be so ignorant.
 

Frankfooter

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Hey Lefties?? You guys used the excuse that Gaza is occupied and therefore Hamas the right to attack Israel to attain their freedom.
Hezbollah however is not occupied. They are a foreign army occupying Lebanon.
So how do you justify Hezbollah attacking Israel then??

I would love to hear an intelligent answer, but I'm not holding my breath
Hezbollah is also a democratic party, with 40% of the vote in Lebanon.
Lebanon is the only democracy in the middle east.

Both Hamas and Hezbollah's creation were in reaction to Israeli aggressions.
Same as will continue to happen after 1 year of genocide and 'expansion'.

Zionism is evil and stupid.
 
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