Is trump hitler reincarnated or hitlers son ?

[Valcazar]

So as with most things Trump, this does not answer the question I asked. Has Trump been charged with insurrection?

No.
And, of course, he doesn't have to be to be barred under the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
The Supreme Court may decide to change that, but as it currently stands, it isn't necessary.

He has been charged with other crimes, of course.

If he has there will be publicly accessible LEGAL documentation supporting that. What is important after that is will that documentation lead to a criminal prosecution and conviction and until that point, he is innocent until proven guilty.

Formally in a court of law, yes.
Surely you aren't under the impression that this means everyone in real life has to treat him as innocent until he is formally convicted of a crime?

I'm just trying to find out where the Trump monster costume is being hidden because [ Dare I say it ] I don't see it.

You dared.

Everything is so charged with anger and emotion you can never get an intelligent articulate fact-based fact fact-supported answer about anything Trump, and if you question those baseless answers you get a bunch of profanity, sarcasm, and insult ???

What facts would you like?

What has Donald Trump been convicted of that would show not just me but anybody that he is a worse choice for president than the people running the country now? or before them? or before them? or before them?

Why do you think the only standard is conviction in a court of law?
That would be ridiculous.

Yes, when he talks I cringe but there's no meat on that bone as it pertains to the bigger question.

People are certainly allowed to reject him as president based on his words.

So the gist of selecting a US president seems to be that if I don't espouse to your tribal ideologies I will be hunted down by your gang and that is the lock-step process of presidential selection that guarantees what's best for America?

Trump and his followers certainly seem to think so, yes.

as Trump's border wall a bad idea?

Yes.
Insanely stupid, impractical, ineffective, and sold and promulgated on a lie.

Is Hunter's laptop fake news?

That depends entirely on what you mean by "Hunter's laptop".
At this point it has become a shibboleth for a series of interconnected things, which is what allows someone to try and say "Is Hunter's laptop fake news?" as if it is a gotcha.

Is Hillary Clinton's Trump-Russia collusion story still true?

Yes.
And the fact that you link specifically to the Steele Dossier when bringing that up kind of tips your hand that you are asking these questions in bad faith.

 

[Phatazluvr123]

Left wingers just wouldn't back convicted fraud artists who are rapists, hire shoddy lawyers and lead hundreds into coup attempts that land them in jail.
But that's choice #1 for right wingers.

I have read many of your posts now as a new member you are obviously extremely left leaning and you like to offend anyone that doesn’t share your political views , I’m sore you support Biden and Trudeau who clearly have their own issues with scandal ???

 

[mandrill]

If you look at Eva Braun and then look at a photo of Trump, there's a pretty clear family resemblance.

Some say that Hitler's pungent and slightly greenish semen was kept frozen by his aides in the Fuhrerbunker to father a new generation of das Herrenvolk after der Fuehrer's demise. Others say that Eva Braun was impregnated by Hitler and smuggled out of the Bunker to give birth to his son and spiritual heir, Vonald Krump. A dense veil of secrecy surrounds much that occurred in those fateful days of May 1945.

Maybe just an unfounded rumour. But no one believed the Earth was a sphere for a millenium as well.

 

[Valcazar]

Could say the same of Liberals these days.

Well no, we can't. It isn't baked into the worldview in the same way.

 

[Phatazluvr123]

Netanyahu is now pretty close.

Hitler killed 6 million Jews and had dreams to take over the world ?! My goodness I think that’s a little different . I also think what is going on in the Middle East right now is an awful situation..
can I ask you a question just cause I’m curious
Do you believe Trudeau was correct when he invoked the emergency act against his own people in Ottawa ? Do you think what the so called Palestinian protesters are doing here in Toronto and all around the world is good and just ?
again just curious

 

[Valcazar]

Be that as it may, whether they do or don’t is immaterial to the point made. The thread is about authoritarian regimes and democracy. At a time when Democrats and Lefties are seeking to say who and who can’t be on the ballot.

Do you think there should be no ballot access or qualification rules, then?
(Let's give you a magic wand to amend the US Constitution instantly.)

 

[Frankfooter]

Hitler killed 6 million Jews and had dreams to take over the world ?! My goodness I think that’s a little different . I also think what is going on in the Middle East right now is an awful situation..
can I ask you a question just cause I’m curious
Do you believe Trudeau was correct when he invoked the emergency act against his own people in Ottawa ? Do you think what the so called Palestinian protesters are doing here in Toronto and all around the world is good and just ?
again just curious

Protests are a necessary part of democracy.

They need to be slightly annoying or they nobody will pay attention but they can't be too much or you do damage to your cause.

The freedom convoy protests went too far, they had demands Trudeau resign, used massive trucks instead of popularity, shut down trade on border bridges and for a movement that had only 10% support to begin with did damage to their own cause. They became a safety and economic issue that Ford wouldn't deal with. Their central cause, anti vaxxers, was a public safety issue on its own.

The Palestine protests are much bigger, way more often and supported by way more of the population. They cause a nuisance but only for short amounts of time. There is no need to shut down protests that only last for a few hours. Their popularity is growing as is support for their cause as it grows globally and international support, like the ICJ application takes hold.

You think they are the same?

Netanyahu's genocide is bigger than Bosnia but smaller than Hitler's.
Reports suggest that 1/4 of Gaza's population could be dead in a year from health issues alone from the attacks.
There are also reports that 500,000 are near starvation with 350,000 kids under 5 at risk of death by starvation.

Do you have a minimum level of dead kids before you think its a problem?

 

[Not getting younger]

For anyone to connect Hitler or any politician of today is just straight ridiculous, this shows people have no knowledge of true history . When I hear this kind of things it just makes me shake my head and I don’t like Trump but he’s no Hitler

Would go even further and suggest it illustrates just how polarized the electorate has become. And of coarse the oh so enlightened and virtuous left are saints and not at all hypocritical or to “blame”. Their shit doesn’t stink.

 

[Not getting younger]

Do you think there should be no ballot access or qualification rules, then?
(Let's give you a magic wand to amend the US Constitution instantly.)

in a democratic society, that’s a philosophical question. If the majority of US citizens do want him. Wave your magic want and pretend 80% do…Who made you and democrats god to say no. It’s a democracy isn’t it?

Why don’t you start with that very simple concept.

 

[Not getting younger]

Well no, we can't. It isn't baked into the worldview in the same way.

Yes we can. Read your reply. Who made you god that you get to say that?

 

[oil&gas]

Trump is certainly not Hitler because Trump is a Plutocrat....at best....

Trump has no empathy for anyone but himself...that much is known. He also wants all of the power and the spotlight for himself. He will use anything and anyone to achieve that. This is what makes him extraordinarily dangerous to the human race at this time. He knows no boundaries or limits.

People who are nearly as narcissistic as Trump are not necessarily dangerous.
What makes Trump extraordinarily dangerous is that, given the chance,
the possibility of him beating Biden in the 2024 presidential election cannot
be ruled out. I can see that Trump after Hitler could become a handy label
to smear on politicians to the right. Pierre Poilievre has already been compared
with Donald Trump. In 2025 we may be warned against voting in another
Donald Trump as Canada's next PM.

He doesn't care about anyone else but himself. Once you know that, you know him fully.....nothing left to learn about him.....

 

[dirtydaveiii]

If you look at Eva Braun and then look at a photo of Trump, there's a pretty clear family resemblance.

Some say that Hitler's pungent and slightly greenish semen was kept frozen by his aides in the Fuhrerbunker to father a new generation of das Herrenvolk after der Fuehrer's demise. Others say that Eva Braun was impregnated by Hitler and smuggled out of the Bunker to give birth to his son and spiritual heir, Vonald Krump. A dense veil of secrecy surrounds much that occurred in those fateful days of May 1945.

Maybe just an unfounded rumour. But no one believed the Earth was a sphere for a millenium as well.

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[mandrill]

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I can see the resemblance clearly. Just imagine her with an orange spray tan and a hair transplant and a far smaller IQ.

 

[bver_hunter]

So as with most things Trump, this does not answer the question I asked. Has Trump been charged with insurrection? If he has there will be publicly accessible LEGAL documentation supporting that. What is important after that is will that documentation lead to a criminal prosecution and conviction and until that point, he is innocent until proven guilty. I don't see the pieces of that puzzle coming together here.

I'm just trying to find out where the Trump monster costume is being hidden because [ Dare I say it ] I don't see it. Everything is so charged with anger and emotion you can never get an intelligent articulate fact-based fact fact-supported answer about anything Trump, and if you question those baseless answers you get a bunch of profanity, sarcasm, and insult ???

What has Donald Trump been convicted of that would show not just me but anybody that he is a worse choice for president than the people running the country now? or before them? or before them? or before them?

Yes, when he talks I cringe but there's no meat on that bone as it pertains to the bigger question.

So the gist of selecting a US president seems to be that if I don't espouse to your tribal ideologies I will be hunted down by your gang and that is the lock-step process of presidential selection that guarantees what's best for America?

Was Trump's border wall a bad idea?
Americans could pay up to $451 billion to care for migrants who entered the US illegally, but have been released into the country or escaped from custody, according to a new report due out Monday from House Republicans and obtained exclusively by The Post

Is Hunter's laptop fake news?

Is Hillary Clinton's Trump-Russia collusion story still true?

Hillary Clinton and Democrats settle Steele dossier electoral case for $113,000

Federal Election Commission had investigated alleged misreporting of expenditure by campaign during 2016 election

www.theguardian.com

Does any anti-Trumper ever take a minute to look back and admit there are wheels on the anti-Trump wagon made of lies and or inaccuracies? it would seem not, all that matters is grasping at the next straw to shit on him with, why is that exactly? I don't know so I'm asking.

Now you are talking about judging an individual who has not been proven to be guilty. What has Hunter Biden's laptop got to do with implicating a President in a crime in anyway? Desperation times for the Republicans who are trying to link it with the incumbent President. We know that come what may whether Trump is guilty or not, his base will vote for him. Even his own Lawyer Christina Bobb stated this:

“The president is elected by the entire nation, and it should be the entire nation who determines who they want for president, whether they are guilty of insurrection or not,” Bobb said during an interview on Real America’s Voice.“It’s up to the people.”

Yes, his OWN ATTORNEY!! Otherwise why should she even come up with such an outrageous statement?

He has got numerous court cases that is embarrassing for any President on any scale. Where are the court cases against Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden?

America was and is built on the strength of migrants who have emigrated there over the centuries. Did Mexico pay a cent for that wall? Anyway, it was okay for this person to work illegally without much hue and cry as she is:

Melania Trump’s sketchy immigration history, explained

If a new Associated Press report is right, Melania Trump herself was once an “illegal” immigrant.

www.vox.com

Ohhh, but I guess that she was not "Poisoning the Blood of our country":

Trump says immigrants are ‘poisoning the blood of our country.’ Biden campaign likens comments to Hitler.

Trump went on to say his criticism is of immigrants from all over the world, including Asia and Africa.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[bver_hunter]

Not sure a Democrat acting unilaterally and deciding who can or who can’t be on a ballot is a shining example of democracy.

In a thread about authoritarian regimes.

Nothing about a Democrat's decision and all about the interpretation of the Constitution:

What does Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution say?
Also known as the "disqualification clause," Section 3 of the 14th Amendment states:

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

The provision applies to those who have taken an oath to support the U.S. Constitution and either "engaged in insurrection or rebellion" against the U.S. or "give aid or comfort to the enemies" of the nation. Section 3 allows Congress to "remove such disability" by a two-thirds vote of the House and Senate.

 

[Not getting younger]

Nothing about a Democrat's decision and all about the interpretation of the Constitution:

What does Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution say?
Also known as the "disqualification clause," Section 3 of the 14th Amendment states:


The provision applies to those who have taken an oath to support the U.S. Constitution and either "engaged in insurrection or rebellion" against the U.S. or "give aid or comfort to the enemies" of the nation. Section 3 allows Congress to "remove such disability" by a two-thirds vote of the House and Senate.

Has anything been proven in a court of law?
And failing that, is it arguable that those removing him from the ballot are.

Breaking their oaths and
b) engaging in rebellion.


And at the end of the day, if “80” or “90” percent of citizens want him….its a democracy isn’t it?

 

[bver_hunter]

Has anything been proven in a court of law?
And failing that, is it arguable that those removing him from the ballot are.

Breaking their oaths and
b) engaging in rebellion.


And at the end of the day, if “80” or “90” of citizens want him….its a democracy isn’t it?

I guess that what we all observed on January 6th were "law abiding citizens" visiting Capitol Hill at the behest of the former POTUS, to the extent that they are considered to be "tourists" and the ones that went to jail were "wrongly convicted". I see the right wing "Logic"!!

 

[Not getting younger]

I guess that what we all observed on January 6th were "law abiding citizens" visiting Capitol Hill at the behest of the former POTUS, to the extent that they are considered to be "tourists" and the ones that went to jail were "wrongly convicted". I see the right wing "Logic"!!

who made you god that you get to
A) decide your interpretation is right
A1) decide he’s guilty without a trial.
B) you know what’s best and that your opinion is the only one that’s right
C) decide what’s right if the majority want him

Do you understand freedom and democracy?
Obviously not

 

[Frankfooter]

Has anything been proven in a court of law?
And failing that, is it arguable that those removing him from the ballot are.

Breaking their oaths and
b) engaging in rebellion.


And at the end of the day, if “80” or “90” percent of citizens want him….its a democracy isn’t it?

Do you count the hundreds of people in jail for the coup attempt on Jan 6?
So many guilty charges for all his minions.

 

[Valcazar]

in a democratic society, that’s a philosophical question. If the majority of US citizens do want him.

But that's not how the system works now and not how we elected the first time.
Do you think he never should have been President?

Wave your magic want and pretend 80% do…

If 80% of the electorate voted for a single candidate, I doubt anyone would push against it.
But why are you dodging the question?

Do you or do you not think there should be rules about who has access to a ballot?
It sounds like you are saying no.
It also sounds like you would prefer that there is direct election of the President and no electoral college.

This isn't a trap, I am asking you - on the philosophical question of whether or not there should be any rules governing ballot access - what you believe.
I haven't even gotten into the question of how you think those votes should be counted.

Who made you and democrats god to say no. It’s a democracy isn’t it?

Why don’t you start with that very simple concept.

It is a democracy, and anyone who has ever paid any attention to that "very simple concept" knows that counting votes and voting systems are incredibly important and need to be thought about.
So why are you so afraid to think about such basic, simple things?