Is This Putin's Off Ramp?

Frankfooter

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IDK if they have it in them to attack again in 5 years. There are some serious "capability reassessment" tasks that need to get done.

1. Can ANY army - let alone one as shit-useless at the Russian - take an urbanized European country w a hostile population in an era of drone strikes, squad level comms and javelin and other shoulder-aimed a/t r/l's? I am guessing that the Russian hold the main roads and the fields and thickets are full of Uk. spetsnaz with javelins and comms hunting those Russian afv's and supply trucks. And there's not much the Russians can do to eliminate those intruders. As long as you keep delivering a/t rocket launchers to the Ukrainians, they're going to kill Russian tanks.

2. Can Russia afford to run such a large army and how much would it cost to make it combat-efficient. They have no NCO corps because they don't pay NCO level salaries because they can't afford to pay them. How tf do you solve that?!

3. Replacing those lost tanks and afv's? That's gonna cost time and money.

4. I an guessing that Zelensky is going to get himself some super modern, nice US, Brit and German-made army toys after this and those Leopards and Abrams will kick those old Russian T-72's into borshcht. So the Pooter's task is going to get harder. Plus, the Ukrainians will be feeling pretty good about themselves after this and they're going to be more than willing to go re-match with the Russians.
I wonder how this war will change wars in the future.
Will javelins and handheld missiles now trump tanks and jets?
Navies must be just as susceptible to larger missile attacks.
All the smart bombs/cruise missiles are really effective, but so expensive, is it possible to base attacks on those?

The US 'shock and awe' attack in Iraq did what everyone expected Russia to do, wipe out the airforce to rule the skies.
But can you do that if the other side has drones and missiles that are too small to wipe out first?

Are tanks still useful?
 

medalllione

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With all their blatant lying, do you really believe them? Do you take them at face value?

And why would they broadcast their game plan to the world? What army does that?
Precisely what I am thinking. Putin is a grand master in spyology. Give the west some crummy news about retreating while keeping his grand design close to his chest. The west will be stupid to believe anything Russia says. They have a record for deception and outright lies that stinks all the way to hell. They are not done yet, there is still to be unleashed on the Ukes the biological, chemical and tactical nuclear bombs in their war arsenal,. Seriously, the situation in Ukraine is becoming a big pain-in-the ass whack-a-mole problem for Putin and my educated guess is he is about to go ballistic. Just don't buy the "we have achieved our phase 1 objective" BS.
 
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Darts

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Are tanks still useful?
They look impressive in May Day parades.

This is a bit before my time but I heard the IDF used to put two guys with a bazooka in a pick-up to attack Egyptian tanks in the 6 Day War.
 
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